I’ll always remember as a kid waking up on a Saturday morning in my Shaft pajamas. I would go downstairs, drink a big glass of Shaft juice, and watch Shaft TV all morning.
RIP
On a side note, this is now the perfect time for a remake starring Michael Cera.
My brother and I saw Shaft at a local theatre a couple years back. Picked it at random knowing nothing and it was fantastic, and is one of my favorite endings to a movie ever. If you’ve never seen it I recommend giving it a try. May his legacy live on.
The entire point of the movie was that they didn’t knew who started the pandemic and were travelling back in time to try and figure it out. The scientists on the plane next to the guy who created the virus means that they did figure it out now, right? Or was is supposed to just be a huge coincidence?
It’s been a long time since I’ve seen 12 Monkeys. My impression has always been that the end was meant to be tragic. That they were so close to being able to figure it out (the one person having actually been there at the time), but ultimately they never did, and never prevented it because it always happened. The scientists in the future are so focused on the 12 Monkeys group that the person that actually released the virus sits comfortably in their blind spot.
I (same as the other user) thought that Bruce Willis manages to send a message saying that it’s not 12 Monkeys and that’s how they figure out it’s the guy on the plane.
Also, the scientists in the future wait for a message on the answering machine. The message on the machine changes based on what Bruce does in the past so it’s clearly not a perfect loop. Actions in the past influence the future so you’re back to paradoxes.
Oh, my interpretation was that after what we see in the movie, they now know the 12 monkeys is not the cause and get to the real terrorist to stop him.
Iirc, the future government (? I guess) weren’t trying to find the source to stop the release, but to get a pure sample to study so as to cure the disease in the future. The lady on the plane was there to get the sample.
This movie almost ruined my relationship with my then girlfriend/now wife. I saw it and thought it was the greatest thing since sliced bread. So I super recommended it to her and she… Did not agree :P It’s a very weird movie though, so I get it.
Not a movie, so maybe not a counter point, but I rather liked the show Dark on Netflix. I think they handled the subject matter well, without getting spoiler-y.
As opposed to the very real science of time travel? Marty fading was an excellent visualisation of how Marty’s altering the past, and hinted that there’s a level of housekeeping the timeline does to keep the world consistent. It’s just one of many theories about time travel that have been depicted in film, even if it’s not your personal favourite theory.
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