I’m not Gen Z and I hate the damn sex scenes. There was a minute there where netflix would just add one within 15 mins of every show or movie, even if they never showed another one again. It never added to the plot and seemed like it was just there to reel people in. But, it was obnoxious.
Glad they sort of stopped that, although I still find it happens now and again. Hopefully this puts the nail in the coffin.
It’s awkward seeing scenes like that unfold with other people like friends and family. Implying a scene and fading to black is more than enough. And I think many actors would be happier too not having to act out those scenes.
Hmm. I haven’t really thought about it much. Why do I, a porn enjoying man from smack in the middle of the Millennial generation, dislike so many Hollywood sex scenes?
I would be interested in gathering some data, take a large sample of movies and TV shows made during my lifetime, and rate them as to why they’re in a film. What purpose do they serve in the story, what do they tell us about the characters…why is this here?
The issue for me isn’t the sex, it’s that the scene is irrelevant to the plot. If the sex is relevant to the plot I don’t mind, but when it’s obviously just slotted in to show tits, that’s annoying because it breaks immersion for me. It makes me think about the agenda behind adding that scene instead of thinking about the story I’m watching.
Obvious product placement is kind of in the same category for me. Like Will Smith in I, Robot spending 5 minutes of the movie super excited about receiving some “vintage 2004 Converse All Stars”. Like, the movie is set in 2035, but you just had to find a way to plug this year’s model of some shoes. Sure, those shoes have looked the same since forever, but the 2004 ones were just something else, man!
Every time I see a discussion on the topic of intermissions or movies being too long, I have to recommend the RunPee app. Been using it for years and I never worry about missing anything when I have to go.
The app has a timer that you start at the beginning of the movie and there are “peetimes” where you can either be notified or keep an eye out for key words to remind you it’s a good time to go. Then while you’re doing your business, you can can read a short synopsis of what you missed. The devs try to find the best times where you won’t miss much and they even tell you what times are the best out of the few they pick. They are very spoiler conscience so you don’t have to worry about getting spoiled.
The app also tells you if there’s anything during or after the credits so you know whether you should wait or not. I’m not affiliated with them in any way. It’s just one of my most used apps and I want to spread the word.
I remembered there was a website that provided similar information, and meant to check it out before I saw FLOWER MOON this week–but then spaced on it and never got around to it.
I did–only half joking–offer the ticket-taker $20 if she’d sneak up to the projection booth and hit the off button for 5 minutes to give us all a break.
I would have loved an intermission–as it was I got up around the 1 hour mark and went to the back of the theater and stretched a bit, etc. Turns out tho that my pre-screening hydration schedule worked out perfectly: I didn’t need to leave to pee during the screening.
Since using that app, I don’t mind having to go, even multiple times. For whatever reason I kept having to go during Flower Moon but it was nice not worrying about what I missed.
The only reason I wouldn’t want an actual intermission is having to deal with a bunch of people going all at once. I hate dealing with crowds and I like just being by myself most of the time. I usually go to matinees on Fridays when I can while most people are at work but the movie is still new. But a lot of times I end up waiting til the middle of the next week so I have an almost empty theater. I know not everyone can do that, but I’m grateful I can.
It depends on the movie though. I love going to see the opening of MCU movies or something that I know will be fun to watch with a crowd. My favorite theater memory is when I saw Endgame and there was this girl a few seats down from me that was bawling her eyes out when the “on your left” portal scene happened. She had to be around 10 and it was just amazing seeing such emotion and investment from a child. It instantly made me feel like a kid again.
Ugh, always one. Was waiting for this comment to come.
No, I do not have my phone out throughout the movie. Sometimes, I check the dark lock screen for a notification occasionally when I feel a vibration, which not a single person notices except for me. But I usually just pay attention for the key words to a peetime that I preplanned to take before the movie started.
I don’t feel like it’s awkward or uncomfortable, but I do hate it when it’s completely unnecessary. I don’t even care if the sex is unrealistic as long as it’s necessary for the plot. Just Chekhov’s gun that shit.
Especially with many audiences. On your own or with a romantic partner it’s not nearly as bad, but watching a sex scene with pretty much anyone else feels so awkward, which pulls you out of the scene.
Amen , I am millenial and I too find it very uncomfortable. When I was young I was eagerly waiting for some hot scenes when porn was scarce but now anything remotely sexual iRRitates me.
Yup, especially as a gay, sex scenes in movies have always been “I’m fine with straight people existing, but I don’t want them rubbing my face in it” at best … and it’s rarely at best, with all the chemistry of a jar of nitrogen.
“People say it’s three hours, but come on, you can sit in front of the TV and watch something for five hours,” Scorsese said. “Also, there are many people who watch theatre for three and a half hours. There are real actors on stage — you can’t get up and walk around. You give it that respect; give cinema some respect.”
When we watch something for 5 hours we pause and get up whenever the hell we feel like it, and if everyone wants to stop, we do.
Theatre has intermissions. The reason? So people getting up to use the bathroom aren't consistently ruining the experience for everyone else.
There are no actors on stage in a movie theatre, so they don't give a flying f.
Is Scorsese just old or is he purposefully being an ass?
He emphasized his hope that viewers experience Killers of the Flower Moon on the big screen
I also found that line hilarious. Like yeah plays may run longer, maybe into the 4 hour range, but they have intermissions with well-known signals when it’s time for people to return to their seats.
And, of course, old movies had intermissions, too. Has he never heard the “Let’s all go to the lobby!” jingle?
Hell, I’ve seen two plays that were so long they were broken into two parts. One of them I saw parts 1 & 2 on separate days. The other was a matinee followed by an evening performance.
So a roughly 4 to 5 hour play had 3 breaks. Each part had an intermission, and then there’s the longer break between the two parts.
Who wants to watch softcore nonsense involving people doing things that are not how sex actually works? Gen Z is first gen to come of age when porn is prolific. Mainstream film can’t compete with step siblings getting stuck on the interwebs.
I’ve also found that gen z aren’t as sex crazed as we were, I felt like I had a monkey on my back and had to screw everything. Gen z is more aware of the consequences, and they have other shit to keep them occupied, we were bored a lot.
As an elder millennial, porn has been prolific longer than you think. Late 90s and early 2000s LAN parties were half playing video games and half copying vast amounts of porn from each other.
Those were the Nerds, the weirdos that spent halft their free time on a computer and talking about how to get faster internet. For the “cool kids” i think a lot were the magazines or someone stealing a VCR from their dads private collection.
Every town and city I ever went in the early 2000s to had multiple crowded LAN centers. It was definitely mainstream, and definitely wasn’t just geeks. Pretending file sharing was not mainstream by 2000 is like pretending Star Wars is only for nerds.
Eeh, swede here but a majority of men in my generation (90s) were probably at dreamhack at one point or another during their teens. Not to mention homeparties. Girls is less obviously but many of those went too
I’m 36 and had internet porn since before I got puberty.
But yeah, I agree. I skip sex scenes now. I don’t feel like they add anything. Like you can just cut out all the nude backs and moaning and nothing of value would be lost. We get it, they had sex, move on.
Most of us had it, but most were on things like family computers trying to be covert about it. Capacitive touch screen phones changed everything for access. No one was getting imaginative with the snake game on a Nokia 3310 back in the day.
The problem is many filmmakers use romance/relationships/gender/identity as a filler that really doesn’t add to the story. This is compounded when it feels more like pandering to an audience.
I’m honestly a bit conflicted about discovering this is a thing. My gut reaction is that highlander the series does not need a reboot. Leave it be.
But Henry Cavill? I could actually see that work. The immortal characters will need much more fleshed out back stories for today’s standards, but damn, I can’t believe I’m actually curious about a highlander reboot.
Edit - ugh. Just realized this was a reboot for the movie. Meh. Not enough time to develop and interesting world with intertwined immortal histories with complex alliances.
I think that’s the real problem, they often shove tragic, supposedly heavy backstories on us with no time devoted to actually developing it and giving them weight- we are TOLD to care, instead of given actual reason to. If the movie can’t invest in their backstory, why should I?
Yeah, over time, I’ve come to care a lot less for movies. For most things, I’d rather have a TV show so that there’s more time to get invested in characters and do world building. Plus more bite sized viewing sessions.
Modern TV has such high production values that movies have lost their biggest competitive edge. Plus showrunners have more options for how to perform the show. No longer do shows need to be bloated with far too many episodes. Public opinion has also changed, so they don’t even try to get away with bullshit like clip episodes anymore (mind you, those were mostly for sitcoms in the first place). Streaming has also made shows more accessible than ever.
I don’t understand why today’s standards require background for everything. We don’t get Ripley’s backstory in Alien and it’s not needed. Even in Aliens, we only get her backstory (her having/outliving a daughter) in service of the plot and themes.
I hate being forced to sympathize with characters because of their tragic backstory. Why not write a compelling character through their actions? Tight plots with no filler are where it’s at for action movies.
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