Pika,

man, they’ve change so much since 2017, where they were giving VIP membership out for free as a Christmas gift. Now they’re making it so can’t access the API for free anymore as a Christmas gift to themselves lmao

Darkassassin07,
@Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca avatar

Now they’re making it so can’t access the API for free anymore

No, they’re not.

They are switching from the old API to the new API. You can pay to continue using the old one, use the new one for free (max 5 downloads per day), or pay for less-restricted access to the new API.

Potatos_are_not_friends,

5 downloads a day is pretty generous as I used them four times in my life for my pirated movies.

Scrollone,

Also, they give you 20 downloads a day if you sign up for free

rifugee, (edited )

You used to be able to download without signing up.

Edit: Apparently not everyone is being asked to login like me now. I’m not sure if it’s a regional thing or maybe my VPN is triggering something?

Darkassassin07, (edited )
@Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca avatar

You still can, even after these changes get applied. (beginning of 2024)

rifugee,

Really? Every time I visit, it asks me to sign in. Maybe it’s by region or something?

Darkassassin07,
@Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca avatar

Mind posting a screenshot?

I can view opensubtitles.org click on a random title, click download, and a .zip containing an .nfo and .srt downloads no issue.

Presumably that’s the old method; there’s also a ‘download (beta)’ button. It puts up a 20sec timer, then lets me click download and lists how much of my quota (1 of 10, not signed in) I’ve used.

Supposed to remain free, just rate limited to 10/day.

rifugee, (edited )

Sure. When I go to “opensubtitles.org” I get redirected to the login page. Here’s the screenshot: imgur.com/a/bhGTeC1

Edit: After I login, it works as you described, by the way. It’s not really a big deal; I was just surprised that it started happening since I hadn’t seen any mention of that change anywhere. I’m even more surprised that it isn’t happening to everyone.

Potatos_are_not_friends,

Omg literally capitalism

rifugee,

…okay? I was just making an observation.

shiveyarbles,

Excellent so now they’ll be paying volunteers for their work!

SteefLem,
@SteefLem@lemmy.world avatar

Why would you pirate a movie and then pay for subtitles? Makes no sense.

mp3,
@mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

And decent pirated movies/TV shows will already come with the subtitles embedded in the video container nowadays, which is great.

lud,

True, but quite often the subtitles are in vobsub which sucks.

mp3,
@mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

Agreed, image-based subs are terrible…

AtmaJnana,

Many pirates will pay for newsgroup access. People also pay for hard drive space, power for servers, hardware, etc. Pirating doesn’t mean people are never paying for anything. That said, I won’t pay for subtitles. I’ll just wait til the community figures something else out.

Moonrise2473,

even better, pirate a movie, then pay to play the subtitles roulette where you download 30 identical files that differ only on the timing

lukas,
@lukas@lemmy.haigner.me avatar

Huh… weird. I can’t visit ClosedSubtitles.org.

lixus98,

I guess this would also affect stremio’s opensubtitles addons

kratoz29,
@kratoz29@lemm.ee avatar

Good thing Stremio has other options… And most media have their own embedded subtitles, which ends up being the best case scenario.

What I don’t recall is if we can login in Open Subtitles 🤔

lixus98, (edited )

We can’t and the addon doesn’t seem to be open source, I could modify it to let us login

kratoz29,
@kratoz29@lemm.ee avatar

Let’s hope this gets sorted out in the future, I remember some addon let you out your login credentials maybe not the official one 🤔

Coud,

As far as I understand they are shutting down open subtitles.org API, but the jellyfin plugin uses the .com version. The free account there is limited to 20 downloads per day via API

protput,

People are getting the their pitchforks out but I think they are misunderstanding. Opensubtitles.ORG is being replaced by opensubtitles.COM. They just are stopping access to the ORG website. I have already migrated to the COM website for a while. And a 20 downloads/a day limit for free users is very reasonable.

rikudou,
@rikudou@lemmings.world avatar

Is it? It’s a simple text file, the download costs them close to nothing. 20 subtitles per day is laughable, especially because other people make the subtitles.

nl_the_shadow,

Bandwidth and hosting still cost money, period. And why would 20 be laughable? What would be okay by your book? 50? 100? 1000? 20 per day is fine for most users, how much content are you downloading every single day that it wouldn’t be?

trafficnab,

At 20 per day it would take me 3 years to fetch subtitles for my entire TV library

tagliatelle,

so you can buy a one time vip access? would 20 000 subtitles be worth $10? How many should you get for $10 to be worth it?

rikudou,
@rikudou@lemmings.world avatar

For me it would and I’ll happily pay the people doing the subtitles.

Stephen304,

Do you get ads in the subtitles though?

“Subtitles downloaded by VIP members are free from any embedded ads, offering a cleaner viewing experience.”

I haven’t used opensubtitles much but have been considering setting up bazarr, using a source that embeds ads in subtitles would be a non starter for me.

I would even be totally willing to pay for increased download limits but not if it means supporting putting ads in the free subtitles.

protput,

I use bazarr in combination with a vip membership of opensubtitles. I’ve been doing this for years since they have been adding ads in them for multiple years. Messages like “This subtitle was downloaded from” are also removed.

venoft,
@venoft@lemmy.world avatar

But they offer a new API. Any disadvantages with the new one?

creed10,

I didn’t see anything about it being free. I also didn’t pick up on whether or not it was moving behind a paywall, just that you could buy a vip subscription for 20% off

reev, (edited )

I think in the email they sent out they mentioned that each IP would be able to download 5 per 24 hours and “registered users” 10 per 24 hours. Paid members would be restricted to 1,000 per 24 hours.

It’s 15 bucks a year for VIP, if I understood it correctly, then I am of the opinion there is nothing here to get mad about for “regular users”.

Takumidesh,

I can download ten subtitles just trying to find one good one for a single TV show episode

Imo if they want to be so strict with downloading subtitles, they should raise the quality standards for the subtitles that are submitted.

DAMunzy,

I believe the captions submitters are doing so for free, no?

mateomaui,

Free trash is still trash.

Takumidesh,

Yes that doesn’t mean that opensubtitles can’t take their new found savings and use it to weed out poor quality submissions.

Wikipedia editors do it for free and yet they still maintain a high standard of quality.

reev,

Honestly that’s a fair point too.

Salix,

Your consumer can query the API on its own, and download 5 subtitles per IP’s per 24 hours, but a user must be authenticated to download more. Users will then be able to download as many subtitles as their ranks allows, from 10 as simple signed up user, to 1000 for VIP user.

…stoplight.io/…/e3750fd63a100-getting-started

ruk_n_rul,

ClosedCaptions.com

nudnyekscentryk,
@nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info avatar

oh fuck no, this kills qnapi and vlsub, doesn’t it?

Kir,

I’m afraid yes. I use their API to automatically download subs in jellyfin and I guess I’m gonna lose that too :(

DoucheBagMcSwag,

Shit I just started using Jellyfin. How do I do this?

Kir,

You have to set your username/password in the opensubtitle plugin, then you can download the subtitles for an episode directly through the UI (right click on episode and “edit subtitles”). You can also change the setting so that it automatically download subtitles for your language for every media that does not come with ones.

BUT I don’t know for how long will this work, since the new policy

ours,

And Plex’s on-demand subtitle download.

leaf,

Plex uses .com for sure. .org has been deprecated for a while.

ours,

Ah, didn’t notice the two. There was a short period the subtitles on Plex had the warning the API was going to change backed into them.

DoucheBagMcSwag, (edited )

Wait so…… Access is now closed for kodi access on non paying members?

Unless they use the website and manually download them?

aniki,

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  • DoucheBagMcSwag,

    Ugh damnit

    Salix,

    Idk where you read that. In the article, if you click to read about their new REST API:

    Your consumer can query the API on its own, and download 5 subtitles per IP’s per 24 hours, but a user must be authenticated to download more. Users will then be able to download as many subtitles as their ranks allows, from 10 as simple signed up user, to 1000 for VIP user.

    aniki,

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  • Salix, (edited )

    Even if you don’t like or care about something, you shouldn’t spread fake information.

    The user should be correctly informed, and they can make the decision on whether to keep using it or not.

    Darkassassin07,
    @Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca avatar

    No.

    A) old API doesn’t shutdown till end of year.

    B) new API is 5 free downloads/day. 10 if you create a free account. More if you buy VIP.

    DoucheBagMcSwag,

    Wow…at least it’s……something??

    I wonder if this will cause an uptick with subscene API users

    mateomaui, (edited )

    For whatever reason, the opensubtitles.com plugin for Kodi still doesn’t require login and still appears to download whatever I need.

    For now.

    edit: after checking their “support us” page, it appears it’s because of the “anonymous” tier, limited to 10 dls per day.

    https://i.imgur.com/C7hPTTY.png

    Good enough for me.

    Darkassassin07,
    @Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca avatar

    Try actually reading the article.

    mateomaui, (edited )

    I did, it includes none of the information you posted regarding non-VIP accounts.

    Salix,

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  • mateomaui, (edited )

    Yes, I know this already, and the API docs provide different info than the screencap from opensubtitles.com (which the blogpost is about transferring accounts to from opensubtitles.org), so being a douche about anyone not being clear on things from reading any of that, much less reading just the blogpost, was uncalled for.

    mateomaui,

    Try sucking my ass.

    drwankingstein,

    Any alternatives? I myself havent seen one so I dunno if there is something to migrate to.

    bogdugg,
    @bogdugg@sh.itjust.works avatar
    drwankingstein,

    much appreciated

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  • American_Jesus,

    This transition aims to pave the way for a more advanced and streamlined experience with the introduction of the new REST API on OpenSubtitles.com

    You didn’t even took the time to read the first lines

    sarmale,

    Wht happens when you have a nated IP?

    db0,
    @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    University dorms certainly never needed subtitles!

    sarmale,

    My isp does this

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