Pika,

man, they’ve change so much since 2017, where they were giving VIP membership out for free as a Christmas gift. Now they’re making it so can’t access the API for free anymore as a Christmas gift to themselves lmao

Darkassassin07,
@Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca avatar

Now they’re making it so can’t access the API for free anymore

No, they’re not.

They are switching from the old API to the new API. You can pay to continue using the old one, use the new one for free (max 5 downloads per day), or pay for less-restricted access to the new API.

Potatos_are_not_friends,

5 downloads a day is pretty generous as I used them four times in my life for my pirated movies.

Scrollone,

Also, they give you 20 downloads a day if you sign up for free

rifugee, (edited )

You used to be able to download without signing up.

Edit: Apparently not everyone is being asked to login like me now. I’m not sure if it’s a regional thing or maybe my VPN is triggering something?

Darkassassin07, (edited )
@Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca avatar

You still can, even after these changes get applied. (beginning of 2024)

rifugee,

Really? Every time I visit, it asks me to sign in. Maybe it’s by region or something?

Darkassassin07,
@Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca avatar

Mind posting a screenshot?

I can view opensubtitles.org click on a random title, click download, and a .zip containing an .nfo and .srt downloads no issue.

Presumably that’s the old method; there’s also a ‘download (beta)’ button. It puts up a 20sec timer, then lets me click download and lists how much of my quota (1 of 10, not signed in) I’ve used.

Supposed to remain free, just rate limited to 10/day.

rifugee, (edited )

Sure. When I go to “opensubtitles.org” I get redirected to the login page. Here’s the screenshot: imgur.com/a/bhGTeC1

Edit: After I login, it works as you described, by the way. It’s not really a big deal; I was just surprised that it started happening since I hadn’t seen any mention of that change anywhere. I’m even more surprised that it isn’t happening to everyone.

Potatos_are_not_friends,

Omg literally capitalism

rifugee,

…okay? I was just making an observation.

venoft,
@venoft@lemmy.world avatar

But they offer a new API. Any disadvantages with the new one?

creed10,

I didn’t see anything about it being free. I also didn’t pick up on whether or not it was moving behind a paywall, just that you could buy a vip subscription for 20% off

reev, (edited )

I think in the email they sent out they mentioned that each IP would be able to download 5 per 24 hours and “registered users” 10 per 24 hours. Paid members would be restricted to 1,000 per 24 hours.

It’s 15 bucks a year for VIP, if I understood it correctly, then I am of the opinion there is nothing here to get mad about for “regular users”.

Takumidesh,

I can download ten subtitles just trying to find one good one for a single TV show episode

Imo if they want to be so strict with downloading subtitles, they should raise the quality standards for the subtitles that are submitted.

DAMunzy,

I believe the captions submitters are doing so for free, no?

mateomaui,

Free trash is still trash.

Takumidesh,

Yes that doesn’t mean that opensubtitles can’t take their new found savings and use it to weed out poor quality submissions.

Wikipedia editors do it for free and yet they still maintain a high standard of quality.

reev,

Honestly that’s a fair point too.

Salix,

Your consumer can query the API on its own, and download 5 subtitles per IP’s per 24 hours, but a user must be authenticated to download more. Users will then be able to download as many subtitles as their ranks allows, from 10 as simple signed up user, to 1000 for VIP user.

…stoplight.io/…/e3750fd63a100-getting-started

ILikeBoobies,

That doesn’t sound very open to me

lemmyvore,

Title is a bit misleading. Starting with 2024 the site will be moving to a new API. The payment is too be able to continue to use the old API a while longer (for software that can’t be changed yet).

ILikeBoobies,

Thank you

danl,

Additionally, it’s just a limit on how much you can download. You can still get 10 subtitles a day for free.

Your consumer can query the API on its own, and download 5 subtitles per IP’s per 24 hours, but a user must be authenticated to download more. Users will then be able to download as many subtitles as their ranks allows, from 10 as simple signed up user, to 1000 for VIP user.

Coud,

As far as I understand they are shutting down open subtitles.org API, but the jellyfin plugin uses the .com version. The free account there is limited to 20 downloads per day via API

protput,

People are getting the their pitchforks out but I think they are misunderstanding. Opensubtitles.ORG is being replaced by opensubtitles.COM. They just are stopping access to the ORG website. I have already migrated to the COM website for a while. And a 20 downloads/a day limit for free users is very reasonable.

rikudou,
@rikudou@lemmings.world avatar

Is it? It’s a simple text file, the download costs them close to nothing. 20 subtitles per day is laughable, especially because other people make the subtitles.

nl_the_shadow,

Bandwidth and hosting still cost money, period. And why would 20 be laughable? What would be okay by your book? 50? 100? 1000? 20 per day is fine for most users, how much content are you downloading every single day that it wouldn’t be?

trafficnab,

At 20 per day it would take me 3 years to fetch subtitles for my entire TV library

tagliatelle,

so you can buy a one time vip access? would 20 000 subtitles be worth $10? How many should you get for $10 to be worth it?

rikudou,
@rikudou@lemmings.world avatar

For me it would and I’ll happily pay the people doing the subtitles.

Stephen304,

Do you get ads in the subtitles though?

“Subtitles downloaded by VIP members are free from any embedded ads, offering a cleaner viewing experience.”

I haven’t used opensubtitles much but have been considering setting up bazarr, using a source that embeds ads in subtitles would be a non starter for me.

I would even be totally willing to pay for increased download limits but not if it means supporting putting ads in the free subtitles.

protput,

I use bazarr in combination with a vip membership of opensubtitles. I’ve been doing this for years since they have been adding ads in them for multiple years. Messages like “This subtitle was downloaded from” are also removed.

drwankingstein,

Any alternatives? I myself havent seen one so I dunno if there is something to migrate to.

bogdugg,
@bogdugg@sh.itjust.works avatar
drwankingstein,

much appreciated

iso, (edited )
@iso@lemy.lol avatar

Subtitles are the easiest material to pirate :) I’m sure they don’t have a copyright either.

Moonrise2473,

Technically subs are copyrighted as they’re usually ripped from official sources. They’re selling copyrighted content

petrescatraian,

@Moonrise2473 even worse: they're selling copyrighted content that they have no license for

@iso

db0,
@db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Ye, but the problem is the ease of discovery

iso,
@iso@lemy.lol avatar

Yeah probably all integrations are gonna break 😐

I hate them for injecting embedded ads to subs anyways, so hopefully they ruins the platform more so an alternative can emerge.

ours,

I was OK with the ads. Just a message before the dialogue and a message after the movie dialogue was over.

But paying for subs? Good luck.

SteefLem,
@SteefLem@lemmy.world avatar

Why would you pirate a movie and then pay for subtitles? Makes no sense.

mp3,
@mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

And decent pirated movies/TV shows will already come with the subtitles embedded in the video container nowadays, which is great.

lud,

True, but quite often the subtitles are in vobsub which sucks.

mp3,
@mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

Agreed, image-based subs are terrible…

AtmaJnana,

Many pirates will pay for newsgroup access. People also pay for hard drive space, power for servers, hardware, etc. Pirating doesn’t mean people are never paying for anything. That said, I won’t pay for subtitles. I’ll just wait til the community figures something else out.

Moonrise2473,

even better, pirate a movie, then pay to play the subtitles roulette where you download 30 identical files that differ only on the timing

gregorum,

So much for “open”

fluxion,

OpenWalletsSubtitles

andrew,
@andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun avatar

Hey now, I’m sure they’ll still gladly accept free labor for subtitle submissions!

maxwisecracks,
@maxwisecracks@lemmy.world avatar

*its previous API

shiveyarbles,

Excellent so now they’ll be paying volunteers for their work!

ruk_n_rul,

ClosedCaptions.com

lukas,
@lukas@lemmy.haigner.me avatar

Huh… weird. I can’t visit ClosedSubtitles.org.

Norgur,

See, I get when YouTube or some such are asking for some kind of payment, since transcoding and delivering all those large video files is expensive as fuck. Yet, Open subtitles delivers text. Fucking. Text. The rest is done for them for free by the users. No, folks. You ain't getting any money.

amaki,

Subscene still exists, fortunately

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