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cybervseas, in What part of this are you not understanding, Beverly?

One of them should have been Wesley.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Wesley is like half a Q. He can save himself.

EmpathicVagrant,

I’d feel bad about choosing between any of who’s up there, but I don’t think anyone would miss Wesley

cybervseas,

Beverley might

Kolanaki, (edited )
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

Until she has two broken arms and sees his ghost.

Maalus,

I liked him. They could’ve made the “boy genius” storyline a bit better, but then the “genius” part overlaps with Data too much I guess. Also, he shouldn’t have had issues getting into the academy at all

EmpathicVagrant,

He’d have been so cool as like a prodigy type, that’s where I thought they were going with him making cool gadgets and understanding traveller. I really wish they’d just gone through with it, since the best and brightest are supposed to be the very fabric of starfleet no overlap should be a problem.

Maalus,

Well, you generally don’t want your characters to be redundant though. A boy genius finding it hard to integrate with the crew (which was where it was heading, with the famous “shut up Wesley” being an example, or that Picard didn’t want children on the bridge) is quite close to wondorous machine that doesn’t fully understand what it means to be human finds it hard to integrate with the crew etc

lightnsfw,

I would execute Wesley myself to save Porthos.

FlyingSquid, (edited )
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I was 10 years old when TNG started, so Wesley was perfect for me. “A kid can be on the bridge of the Enterprise? A kid like me?”

Also, Wil Wheaton is awesome. And a good actor.

EmpathicVagrant,

Shut up Weasley the squid

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar
EmpathicVagrant,

God dammit now I’m a mind flayer too.

Blue_Morpho,

I like Wil but his actor skills are gone. His appearance in Picard was cringingly bad. Although I partly blame the director for allowing such a bad performance to go to print.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I really liked him in Eureka. I don’t think his acting skills have gone all that far downhill since then. And I’m not sure what sort of performance you expected from a superbeing Wesley.

Blue_Morpho, (edited )

Eureka was 18 years ago!

I expected something like Wesley from the TNG episode, Journey’s End where he was fantastic. Instead it was like if you put Adam Savage on set and told him to geek out about being on Trek.

Anticorp,

Shut up, Wesley.

Shawdow194, in What part of this are you not understanding, Beverly?
@Shawdow194@kbin.social avatar

"The dog"...

You mean PORTHOS! Give them some respect!

madelena,

Exactly! The Dog is Tendi’s dog, not Archer’s dog.

milkisklim,

Aka the Destroyer of Trees, the Consumer of Cheese!

Telodzrum,

Scotty beamed into the vacuum of space, that’s not a lot of respect either.

ChicoSuave, in I hope this ship holds together!

Or how about when a car is overheating and you turn on the heater for that extra bit of heat capacity?

acockworkorange,

Drivert auxiliary power from life support to plasma coolant.

gst0ck,

Drivert in this context has got to be the best trypo.

acockworkorange,

Hadn’t even seen it before you pointed it out. That’s staying 😁

Anticorp,

I regret to inform you that I have experience with this in the middle of summer.

akilou,

Of course! That’s when the engine is going to over heat. If you’re hot, they’re hot

Anticorp,

That reminds me of this:

“Of course your keys are always in the last place you look! Why would you keep looking after you find them?”

Gormadt,
@Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I’ve been there friend, it’s pretty shitty

possiblylinux127, (edited )

I’m not sure what you people are doing but I’m usually pretty hot and sweaty. Don’t shit in your car.

Gormadt,
@Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Don’t shit in your car.

Party pooper

xkforce, in What part of this are you not understanding, Beverly?

Oof no one tell op what happened to Porthos.

MajorHavoc,

… In about seventy five years when he rematerializes…

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

He got six kinds of cheese. I’ve seen Enterprise. You can’t fool me.

Also, that was a different Porthos in Star Trek that doesn’t count and it couldn’t have been the same dog anyway unless they invented super long-life dog extension medicine or something.

So what happened to Porthos is he got six kinds of cheese. The end.

Kolanaki, in What part of this are you not understanding, Beverly?
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

Save the dog by merging it’s mind with Seven of Nine’s body. Not because it’s a sexy body, but because it has the nanoprobes.

Kovukono,

We are the Dorg. You will become a good boy. Resistance is futile.

skeptomatic,

…We will add your zoomies and derpy expressions to our own.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Your culture will adapt to scritch us.

dutchkimble, in What part of this are you not understanding, Beverly?

They should put Tuvix as choice as well .but porthos wins.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

You can’t save Tuvix. No one can save Tuvix.

Thorry84, in Do-Re-Mi-Go-oW-Ron

Holding your bat’leths like that won’t bring honor to your house!

gregorum, (edited )

If Dame Julie Andrews of the House of Gowron can do 8 shows a week (including matinee) in heels and full burlesque gear in Victor/Victoria for 2 full runs on Broadway and the West End, she can fucking juggle a dozen Bat’leths!

milkisklim, (edited ) in Do-Re-Mi-Go-oW-Ron

Don’t forget the other classic song from this musical, “Good Bye, Fairwell, naDevvo’ peghoS!”

gregorum, (edited )

Qaplaaaaaaaaaaaaa’! 💤

FlyingSquid, in Every race needs at least one.
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Ugh, that episode is so fucking stupid. “We wanted to pass information down to our creations, but we hid it in a puzzle for no apparent reason and just hoped that all the pieces of the puzzle would evolve into spacefaring civilizations that will all work together to solve the puzzle.” And that didn’t even happen because one of the pieces was on a world which didn’t have much life on it and it got intentionally destroyed during the race for all the puzzle pieces.

EdibleFriend,
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

And don’t forget when you put the pieces of the puzzle together the DNA somehow rebuilt a fucking tricorder into a hologram emitter.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

As far as I know, the ‘ancient race that created everyone else’ has never been mentioned in Star Trek again (at least on TV) and I hope it stays that way. Let that episode die in the memory hole.

EdibleFriend, (edited )
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

Sort of like how warp drive destroying the universe and there being speed limits and shit just kind of went away.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

They sort of repeated the idea in Discovery with the dilithium shortage. I was not really a big fan of the resolution of that one though.

dalekcaan,

It’s kinda funny how they introduced warp drive harm as a sort of analogy for fossil fuels and the damage we’re doing to our own planet, then slowly stopped talking about it because it wasn’t convenient to the plot.

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website avatar

I didn’t care for it either. It was like they wanted to explain why every alien race looked like humans in costumes, but I was perfectly fine with suspension of disbelief.

VindictiveJudge,

It’s also not even remotely how DNA or evolution work.

aniki,

We have no idea how evolution works. Anyone claiming otherwise is a liar.

sirblastalot,

“You can’t fuck if you’re dead” what’s to understand

aniki,

That’s the mechanism, but how environments grow wings or blowholes or 8 vs 6 legs is entirely magic still.

BarrelAgedBoredom,

Environmental pressures and conditions make specific traits more advantageous for species inhabiting a particular environmental niche. That’s why everything turns into crabs

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

“Everything Turns Into Crabs” would be an amazing title for a book about evolution. Someone tell Richard Dawkins.

ahornsirup,
@ahornsirup@sopuli.xyz avatar

Random chance produced advantageous trait. Advantageous trait gets propagated because it’s a competitive benefit for the individuals carrying it.

agamemnonymous,
@agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works avatar

I think humanoid is a perfectly logical end-state for any terrestrial species that develops technology:

Gotta get energy somehow, consumption is more energy dense than autotrophy, so need a mouth. Gotta find the stuff to put in mouth, so need sense organs, closer to mouth is better. Light is generally the best medium for sensing, so eyes eventually. Two eyes are way better than one for depth perception, but three is inefficient energy investment with seriously diminishing returns.

Gotta move around in a gravity well to get to your food, so you need some kind of limbs. In the beginning, before developing the sophisticated nervous system necessary for dynamic locomotion, four is the minimum so you can remain stable on three limbs while you move the fourth.

Gotta start banging rocks together if you want tech, so you need hands of some kind, and two free limbs. By this point, your nervous system should be sophisticated enough to allow dynamic locomotion, but you still need at least two “legs” to move relative to each other to move on the ground in a gravity well.

I would expect most technological species with similar heritage to humans to look roughly humanoid. There are plenty of other forms, but I feel like they’d be selected against.

kameecoding,

Well any species would be a product of their environment but I think the logic that bipedals with arm like appendages would dominate the world isnt far fetched.

And as you say they would likely not have unneccessary stuff like 3rd eye or 2 sets of arms since evolution is basically the system of good enough anything above that is a waste

So something might start out with 3 eyes but would eventually lose it as standing up and bejng able turn around is good enough to survive and propagate

chaogomu,

They wanted to explain why there were so many accidental alien-human hybrids. Because someone forgot that Spock was originally described as being a product of medical science.

Which should have been the answer to every hybrid, their parents made a deliberate choice to have a child, and then did some genetic engineering to get it done.

But the writers wanted to inject drama with accidental hybrids. Also they decided that genetic engineering was banned so that Khan could be an enemy. A good choice because that movie was great. But a bad choice as well because it led to this episode.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

They also had The Paradise Syndrome where a race of progenitor aliens were putting humans on other planets. Just saying that they discovered that those aliens also modified humans to best survive on whatever planet they resettled them would have solved the problem.

xkforce,

The genetic engineering ban always rubbed me the wrong way. Like… these people claim to as Picard put it, have “more evolved sensibilities” or whatever where revenge, greed and racism are a thing of the past and time and time again we see that the federation basically baked racism into their laws. The way Bashir and Una were treated after it was found out they had been genetically altered says everything. It wasn’t even Bashir’s decision and the federation went after him. Genetic alteration was part of Una’s culture and she was roasted for that despite the federation claiming to be tolerant of other cultures… until theyre not. Theres an entire episode about what happened when Una’s people removed these alterations just to die for it. Or turn into techno ghosts idk. And Pike basically says the quiet part out loud more or less saying he tolerates her because she is “one of the good ones.” Which is what a lot of racists do. They’ll dismiss entire ethnic groups then turn around and say "oh no not you, you’re one of the good ones. Its all the other dirty (insert ethnic slur here) that are the problem.

I get what the rationalization for the ban is but in reality it is racism. It is racism that is rationalized because of bad prior experiences like much of racism is. i.e people looking for reasons to hate, exclude and persecute entire groups of people. "I was jumped in an alley by someone of (insert ethnicity here) and therefore all members of that ethnicity are violent is a logical fallacy as the entire argument just like the federation being dicks to anyone that was genetically altered because of what Khan did.

BradleyUffner, (edited )

The ban was retconned in during DS9 and doesn’t make much sense. They mess with people’s DNA all the time in TNG and no one bats an eye.

ChewTiger,

Great way of saying it. That has always bothered me as well.

ArugulaZ,
@ArugulaZ@kbin.social avatar

The Klingon in the episode was like, "This is stupid! I'd kill her if she wasn't already dead!"

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I have no clue why the Klingon thought a superweapon would be hidden in the DNA of multiple species as a puzzle.

But then the puzzle idea makes no sense, so why the hell not?

GregorGizeh,

To be fair to the idea, it would work out just fine if just a single spacefaring species evolved, discovered their piece of the puzzle and then sought out the others.

I do concede that it is really unlikely that they would all evolve on all puzzle planets at roughly the same time and all be spacefaring around the same time. But I guess that’s why it’s a plot device to bring them all together and kinda explain why everyone is human with weird eyebrows, ears or noses.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

But why even make the puzzle to begin with?

And it doesn’t really explain why everyone looks humanoid because their life seeding started at a much earlier stage and just apparently hoped evolution would do the rest of the work. You can’t start with an amoeba and expect it to evolve into something that looks like a human but may or may not have ridges or spots on their head. That’s ludicrous.

GregorGizeh,

I would think the puzzle is a sort of trial to ensure that their seeded race(s) were sufficiently developed to gain something from that message, insight into their origins and/or more philosophical questions that we as humans are still striving to answer.

As for the humanoid forms everywhere, yeah you absolutely need to suspend your disbelief a bit for that. Still I think it’s the only in universe explanation for it no?

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Sure, but as the episode itself showed, that didn’t happen on at least one planet that had a puzzle piece, so it was a very weird gamble to make.

I think The Inner Light has problems too, but that attempt at the idea of keeping the memory of a race of people that went extinct alive worked so much better.

HerrVorragend, in It's the weekend, baby.
@HerrVorragend@lemmy.world avatar

Bashir is such a horn dog. I love it!

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA,
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

I should name our next feral tomcat Julian

gregorum,

Always at Garak’s, “picking up his pants”

ValueSubtracted, in These Tsunkatse matches are getting out of hand
@ValueSubtracted@startrek.website avatar

Tuvix vs. the Swingin’ Fontaine Brothers? I don’t get it.

orf,

Tuvix vs. Two Vics!

xia, in I hope this ship holds together!

*divert

tiltinjon,

The confluence of the power streams has put life in these old thrusters

LillyPip,

Hey man, this is a Christian server.

EdibleFriend, in I hope this ship holds together!
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

He would say divert you uncultured Philistine!

LordKitsuna,

Yes thank you, I was worried I would be the only one bothered by this

amansman,

He would also omit “the”. C’mon now

Hagdos, in I hope this ship holds together!

I worked on solar racing cars as a student. The main race crosses outback Australia. One of the questions we often got: Does it have A/C?

No, no it doesn’t. A/C uses about as much power as all of the solar cells on the car deliver. We can either move, or power an A/C-unit.

DannyBoy,

Hope you don’t need a fire suit!

ThrowawayPermanente,

We run the A/C until the car is cool, then we move. The rest of the crew is with me on this.

someguy3,

So what do you do? Ice vest?

Rednax,

Jup. They do that. After an edition of the challenge where someone fainted and crashed due to the heat, they also added regulations for airflow. It might be hot outside-air, but that is still way better than inside-over air.

Hagdos,

Sometimes, but they only work for so long. Mostly just bring plenty water and power through. Every stint is about 4 hours of driving, and then drivers change.

Cort,

What about an evaporative cooler?

Hagdos,

Either too heavy (these vehicles are below 200kg) or it doesnt work long enough. Or you’re now hot and humid, which is worse than hot and dry

Cort,

Wow 200kg is super light. No room for water weight in one of those, makes sense!

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website avatar

That sounds like a hell of an awesome project

Hagdos,

It is!

Imgonnatrythis,

Isn’t the outback pretty hot? Think I would channel that power to the A/C and the radio and just include legholes.

khannie,
@khannie@lemmy.world avatar

Yabba dabba dooo!

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA, in Every race needs at least one.
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

Is the plural Jeffreys Combs or Jeffrey Combss I’m writing a slashfic

psud, (edited )

Jeffrey Combses

You use the other form for titles

“There were three directors general”

militaryintelligence,

No, it works like attorneys general. Jeffrey’s Combs

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA,
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

I just need to work in a really good Jeffreys tube pun and we’ll be back in the Tingleverse

NoSpiritAnimal,
@NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world avatar

I think Combs is Welsh, so it’s Combson if I’m not mistaken

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