Iron_Lynx

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Iron_Lynx,

Whatever that country this is (Turkey? A Baltic state?), it’s ahead of OP by a leap.

Iron_Lynx, (edited )

I just noticed. I’m pleased that I narrowed it down to Turkey or a Baltic state.

Yeah, Latvia is way ahead of the world in this respect. Or The States at least…

Iron_Lynx,

Hold my shitty dishes, I’m going in!

Iron_Lynx,

I like to apply some business logic to it.

  • I expect to use the product or functionality provided by x on a regular basis
  • The use of x has no added utility
  • The functionality and/or feature set (e.g. content) of x may degrade significantly without warning and/or recourse
  • Unavailability of x is likely to render it completely useless

If most of these conditions can be regularly sufficiently true, then searching an alternative that incorporates proper ownership is a good course of action.

Iron_Lynx,

I hope you stub your little toe twice today.

Iron_Lynx,

My gf does not like the texture of onions.

The taste is fine with her, so I think I’m gonna have to get used to cooking for her with minced onions…

Iron_Lynx,

I feel bad for my brother right now, since his gf cannot have onions and garlic due to a food intolerance. At least spring onions are still tolerable, but still…

Iron_Lynx,

So I was right that it’s a lyric, just not a Sabaton one 😅

Iron_Lynx,

Not gonna lie, that title sounds like it could be a Sabaton lyric.

Iron_Lynx,

And NE with garlic sauce if I’m having a Kapsalon

Iron_Lynx,

Strictly ketchup? TN.

Any sauce? Usually LN with Dutch chip sauce or mayonnaise.

Iron_Lynx,

Y’all think your cat is a loaf? You’ve got nothing on OP! This… is a loaf.

Iron_Lynx,

Shit like this is why I think the only thing that will save America is a complete purge of state and federal government, and a very clear and specific explanation why the US governments have been forcibly emptied and rebooted.

It should be governments’ jobs to act for the betterment of their subjects. The fact the US doesn’t, and happily marches the troops into places where they do “too well” if you’d ask them and read between the lines of their answers, is a crime against humanity.

Iron_Lynx,

We’re talking the area just around a school where it’s safe to assume there are likely to be a lot of children outside of vehicles.

Iron_Lynx,

Drivers who feel uncomfortable naturally slow down and pay more attention.

Congratulations, you stumbled upon the key point of traffic calming!

Iron_Lynx, (edited )

I mean, if the road street takes up only part of the width of the right of way, you can do a lot with blocking off half the road street and alternating which side every few dozen metres. No demolition required.

Upon closer inspection, what you just described is a street, not a road.

Also, even with a narrower street, with strategically placed obstacles, you can convince drivers to zig-zag and reduce their speed that way.

Iron_Lynx, (edited )

There’s a difference. A road is meant to be a fast connection between points at the ends. This calls for forgiving design and higher speeds.
Meanwhile, a street is meant to be for allowing access to the nearby land. That warrants lower speeds, and the expectation that anyone can be on any of the sides as they see necessary. A street should function less like a vehicle artery, and more like an outdoor room.

Notice that these are incompatible uses. North American traffic engineers clearly didn’t, allowing main streets to become the main thoroughfare, i.e. the main roads through an area as well. This produces the most dangerous type of transportation infrastructure: the stroad. Which is both meant to be a fast connection AND access to the nearby land, and in doing so fails at both.

If this stretch of car infrastructure you were discussing is supposed to be a street, vehicle throughput should probably be one of the last priorities, and vehicles are better off on a road a few blocks over.

Iron_Lynx,

Essentially, yes.

Besides, speed cameras, especially in NA, enforce by punishment. Punishment that some people are unable to afford, because for some reason they coddle billionaires while letting a fifth of their citizens rot in the gutter.

Meanwhile, a traffic calmed school zone enforces proactively. Are you sure you’d like to risk scratching your brand new $50k truck’s pristine paintjob? A properly traffic calmed street will force drivers to face that question, and in many cases, they’ll answer the question with “no”, and slow down. Mission accomplished.

Iron_Lynx,
Iron_Lynx, (edited )

Counterpoint:

How often do you think most people watch their speed gauges?
You and I might do so regularly, but you sure as hell cannot say that for sure about every other person on the road.

Furthermore, how obvious is the speed limit?
I can tell you with certainty that, outside of a few, mostly European, places, this may be unclear. North American traffic engineers happily design roads with speed limits anywhere between 40 and 80 km/h, with no changes to the cross-sectional geometry of the (st-) road.

Systemic speeding because of misguided road design is more common than you’d like to admit. And a few cameras probably only do so much to fix that.

Iron_Lynx,

And putting up signs and cameras literally only does so much to convince people to slow down on wide, straight roads. How likely is the average driver in your area to speed? I can assure you, half of the road users are worse than that.

If we’re going to start pointing to other discussions, make it as easy to find your point as you can. Case in point, what I’m talking about.

Iron_Lynx,

And “realistic solutioins that work now and can be quickly applied everywhere” are far too easily quick fixes. And nothing is as permanent as a quick fix.

Besides, at least one of your sources is a Canadian car journalist, someone who’s probably personally invested in sucking GM’s metaphorical dick.
And let’s also face it, Canada, a country where a city of half a million people was “too small for a rapid transit network,” while cities a third its size have about as much, if not more, absolute track mileage and ridership on their tram network than Toronto.

Who’s the biased one here, mister pot, accusing the kettle he’s black?

Iron_Lynx, (edited )

Two words: Jersey barriers.

You can at least create the chicanes by putting up concrete barriers. Just as simple as a moveable speed trap, achieves much of the traffic calming effect, no extra police resources needed.

EDIT: In fact, now I think about it, using planters will have most of the same effect, while looking prettier.

Iron_Lynx,

Oh, they’ll be caught soon enough at the mechanics with dented bumpers.

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