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Subspace, Real Space, Warp Bubbles and a proposal as to how *Star Trek* Warp Drive might work

In this post I’ll be proposing a model to understanding how Star Trek warp drive works. In doing so, I’ll be attempting to reconcile the way the TNG Technical Manual describes warp drive with the idea that warp drive somehow takes advantages of shortcuts through real space by warping space around the craft, yet still...

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I’m going to drop in again to say that Albucierre’s particular solution in his doctoral thesis was a mathematical closed form corner solution for tractability.

We shouldn’t take the features of this limited corner case as characteristic of the drive approach. Instead, we need to understand that the point of his thesis was to demonstrate cleanly that this particular solution was viable to get around the FTL problem in general relativity.

The thing is that the inertia being zero is implied one of the assumptions of the corner solution. That is, for tractability, Albucierre assumed that the ship would have no initial velocity that it would take into the warp bubble with it.

It would be mathematically messier and would require a computational approach to relax this assumption and allow the ship to have positive initial velocity, but it’s exactly what some of the folks trying to extend the model and reduce the exotic matter requirement have explored.

All to say that the elaboration of Albucierre’s approach seems likely to take it exactly in the direction of some of the distinctions the OP has noticed.

Th most significant difference that remains is that ships at warp are able observe and to receive information from outside their bubble while this seems inconsistent with a bubble in Alcubierre’s model.

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Well, you’ll need to decide which service(s) has more of what you want to see.

Many of us are rotating subscriptions at this point. The streamers fret about ‘churn’ but few households can justify a menu of services at one time any more than they could afford a half dozen premium cable channels.

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Paramount repatriated the show to Paramount+ just about everywhere.

Star Trek is even on P+ in Canada now, although we still have the shows coming in on premium cable via Media as well.

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For those struggling with the meaning of the lyrics for ‘Alouette’, there’s even a more bizarre Québécois nonsense song along similar lines ‘Mon Merle’.

In this case, the blackbird starts by losing a body part, then getting three back in its place. Worse, the singer asks each time ‘Comment vas-tu mon Merle’, literally ‘How’s it going blackbird.’

Here’s a rather delightful, celebrated 1958 animated short featuring the song, sung by ‘The Trio Lyrique of Montreal‘ with an English introduction . (It used an experimental cut-out animation method.)

Dr. Miglemo would be horrified.

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There was a third species in TAS that some interpret as felinoid, but are more likely lemurians.

The ancient, advanced space-faring species the Vedala was introduced in the TAS episode’The Jihad’ written by Stephen Kandel, whose other episodes featured Harry Mudd.

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Here are a few more images from TAS that show the breadth of sentient species that the show established

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Erica was a young thing in a romantic triangle with a guy heading off to Vietnam in the early 70s. She became a cougar in the 80s.

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Then gatekeeping fans will say it breaks canon, has to be an alternate timeline/universe because they didn’t need those in TOS/TNG.

Oh, wait, that’s one of the criticisms of the environmental suits in Discovery and SNW…

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While he was a Shakespearean actor at Stratford in Canada, and in fact was Christopher Plummer’s understudy before taking on leading roles himself, Shatner’s US career kicked off in the 1950s in film noir. He was considered a quite serious actor.

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Bezos was particularly jerky about it when its established fact that Shatner was one of the celebrity calls that astronauts asked to have in the early days of the space station when communication was more limited.

So this actor, who was an inspiration for astronauts, had been asked to talk to them during their missions and hear their perspectives for morale benefits. But when he finally has his own experience, Bezos assumed no one wanted to hear it. Just tone deaf and uninformed.

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What I would like to see is Moriarty vs Garak, ‘cutting remarks’ for the win.

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Encounter at Farpoint probably isn’t the place to start.

We tend to assume our kids will get into it the same way we did, but different generations respond differently.

Our kids are fans, but they like the franchise on their own terms. We started them with the TAS DVD set, after priming them with Odd Squad. They loved it.

When they hit school age, I tried them on a curated set of TNG episodes. Didn’t really stick, but Voyager they adored. By high school they’d tried most of it but would only watch the occasional episode of DS9 or Enterprise. They watched the early seasons of Discovery with enthusiasm even though I had to fast forward through some scenes.

In high school, their interest fell off as they explored other fandoms, but they’ve come back to it on their own terms. And their favourite shows at the moment aren’t ones that I would ever have predicted.

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Looking back at that, I think Roddenberry was lampshading the expected social discomfort expected in the audience when those words were put in Pike’s mouth. Regrettably, the rest audience reportedly still wasn’t willing to accept Number One.

It’s odd though given the prominent women characters in Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea which was very popular a few years before.

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Agree. But Boimler should still be much taller than Bean.

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Boims should be lean, and Bean short.

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Let’s make sure the non Canadians aren’t misled. (And provide authentic images.)

This is what a tin of maple syrup from Quebec looks like.

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Ontario also has a lot of sugar bush. Here’s what a standard jug looks like.

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Where real syrup comes from…

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That stack of pancakes in the meme has about 1/3 of what our kids would put on them. They should be drowning. Not to mention all over the beans, sausages eggs or whatever other sides.

For those you are uninitiated, in the maple syrup producing regions of Quebec and Ontario, we buy it by the case. 12 half litre cans each. Or 1 litre bottles.

It’s actually much healthier than corn syrup because it has a lot of dissolved mineral goodness that the trees pull out of the ground - calcium, zinc and iron.

When I first moved from the west, my housemate’s romantic interest showed up with a case and opined that we were sickly westerners because we weren’t consuming syrup all winter. I’ve come round.

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We had one that would push the bowl or plate off the mat and into the middle of the floor.

Replaced the mat with a small plastic food service tray. Which off course proved easier to slide across the floor.

Ignoring the behaviour is the only solution, but it takes cats 2 weeks to believe any behaviour changes are real. Why did we leave to fall for patient predators as pets?

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I note that you didn’t even include any of the characters Doohan voiced in TAS.

In addition to Scotty, he voiced just about every other male character, crew or guest, other than Kirk, Spock, McCoy & Sulu.

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I heard that.

What would Ferengi think about earworms?

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Going to be that person and suggest the OP try Voyager.

It seems to be the most accessible of the older shows for younger, newer viewers. It was the most watched of all the classic shows on Netflix.

It covers all the classic tropes and provides endless fodder for memes here.

It’s uneven throughout its entire run, but also has some of the very best episodes ever. New fans really attach to the characters, and there’s no refuting that it unabashedly leaned into the weird.

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