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Aurenkin, to reddit in Reddit must share IP addresses of piracy-discussing users, film studios say

Do we really have to go through this shit again? As long as you refuse to make watching movies convenient and reasonably priced, people will pirate. You were already so close, but then you got greedy and fucked it all up again so here we are.

Anticorp, (edited )

They really had achieved the dream. They made a streaming account affordable and more convenient than pirating, so they had tons of customers, with piracy a long lost pastime for people like me. Then they got greedy like you said, and annoying, and many of us dusted off our sailing gear.

Aurenkin,

While streaming services have been undergoing enshittification, the tools for piracy have been getting more convenient too.

hitmyspot,

The arrs are amazing. I had been out for a while. It’s more fun than streaming. Random stuff shows up that I wasn’t expecting when it downloads a new show or moviess that I like.

Anticorp,

What are the arrs?

hitmyspot,

Radarr, sonarr, prowlarr and others. Apps that monitor your library, your preferred shows and movies and download them automatically for better quality or just new releases. Particularly good for tv shows.

Anticorp,

For real! Stremio+Real-Debrid is amazing. The fact that you can stream torrent now is so cool.

uriel238, to piracy in Film studios demand IP addresses of people who discussed piracy on Reddit
@uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I thought this was already decided by a court in autumn 2023. Is this an appeal?

squirrel,
@squirrel@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

As far as I understand it, the studios are trying a different angle: They are not suing Reddit this time, but an ISP and want Reddit to provide the data of costumers of that ISP.

Fenrisulfir,

Man I know some cosplayers can be annoying but I think that’s overkill

test113,

Stupid question: What’s the point behind this? Is this actually financially viable for a company in the long run? Was this an attempt to get Reddit to crack down on those subs?

Isn’t this always a fight against windmills? i.e., you can’t fight a symptom without addressing the market as a whole?

uriel238, (edited )
@uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I think this was related to their plan before, in the case that got decided (specifically that Reddit didn’t have to reveal the IP addies of its clients), but that’s always been a problem especially if an ip address leads to a router or is dynamic at the ISP, then there’s no certainty it can be identified with a single person.

This is how the whole twelve-strikes program was formed where big name ISPs would (hypothetically) give demerits and eventually throttle or disconnect ISP addies that were identified as engaging in infringing activity. The problem is, clients stopped wanting to pay their bills when quality deteriorated, so it’s not consistently enforced. In fact, companies that are not Comcast or Xfinity are motivated not to do anything beyond threats.

ETA: Similarly, it’s actually to the benefit of social media websites to preserve the privacy of their clients, since incidents in which they cooperate with law enforcement reduces engagement. Google used to have a robust legal resistance to giving away personal data. It was deteriorated through enshittification, but now Google has lost enough reputation that it’s looking for ways to preserve privacy, like the new effort to constrain personal map data to devices, so Google is unable to respond to location dragnet warrants. They’re still in trouble for search-term warrants.

(Note the map thing is not yet rolled out, so don’t use Google maps when burying your bodies.)

ExperimentalGuy, to piracy in Film studios demand IP addresses of people who discussed piracy on Reddit

I’m so glad I don’t use that shit platform anymore.

Rediphile, to reddit in Reddit must share IP addresses of piracy-discussing users, film studios say

They already know who I am lol. I don’t hide it at all, straight raw dogging it without VPN or anything. Thankfully they can’t do anything because they would lose money pursuing me.

lazylion_ca,

The joy of being Canadian.

MrFappy, (edited ) to reddit in Reddit must share IP addresses of piracy-discussing users, film studios say

These companies are just mad that their movies sucked and didn’t make any money, so they’re saying they’re losing profit from piracy… what profit?!?! No one wants to watch Hellboy 2019 for free, much less put in the time and effort to pirate that garbage. And if they are, then I feel like having to watch any fragment of that movie is punishment enough.

bradboimler,
@bradboimler@startrek.website avatar

I agree watched that movie one time i would defiantly never buy that movie.

beckerist,

A matter of DEFIANCE!

thanks_shakey_snake,
VaultBoyNewVegas,

Honestly, I don’t see a problem with pirating a movie that came out 5+ years ago. After a movie has left cinemas and can only be seen via DVD/blueray are the studios really making much money back from those? They’re definitely not making any money on DVDs/bluerays bought from secondhand stores.

space,

And why the hell would I buy a region locked Blu-ray, and be forced to watch through those FBI piracy screens?

FeelThePower, to piracy in Film studios demand IP addresses of people who discussed piracy on Reddit

most reasonable corporation

_sideffect, to piracy in Film studios demand IP addresses of people who discussed piracy on Reddit

Spez will happily give it if it’ll increase his future IPO

JCreazy, to piracy in Film studios demand IP addresses of people who discussed piracy on Reddit

After reading the article, it looks like the studios want the IPs to show that Frontier is allowing piracy on their ISP and they claim they don’t want it for financial compensation.

asteriskeverything,

This is true.

What I also gathered from the article (for further context) is that these are the same lawyers who tried to the other 2 cases of piracy on reddit. This time the argument is that it is not a violation of the first amendment right because they want the data to go after the ISP

EmperorHenry, to piracy in Film studios demand IP addresses of people who discussed piracy on Reddit
@EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

You ain’t gonna get mine, you fuckers.

Proton VPN with port forwarding turned off…Or Mullvad with quantum secure encryption…whichever you want.

CCMan1701A,

Yeah, doesn’t everyone use a VPN in some form by now?

EmperorHenry,
@EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

A lot of people still don’t and they use public wifi too. And some people with VPNs are using shitty ones like nord, express or Private internet access or surfshark

Surfshark and nord are owned by the same company and express and PIA are owned by the same company. So PIA isn’t trustworthy anymore, their court proven no-logs policy isn’t valid anymore because they got bought out since then.

h_a_r_u_k_i,
@h_a_r_u_k_i@programming.dev avatar

Reddit is already blocking some Proton VPN IPs…

EmperorHenry,
@EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I haven’t had that problem when I use proton. Try using secure core with the browser extension.

Scrath,

Why port forwarding off specifically?

vsh,
@vsh@lemm.ee avatar

Port forwarding allows unsolicited connections through the NAT firewall on specific ports, making it possible for devices on the internet to initiate connections and access services on a local device . Basically by turning off port forwarding you improve your privacy and network security at the cost of lower torrenting speed and no remote access.

Auli,

Huh, how the hell does turning off port forwarding improve privacy? I am so confused, security yes but privacy.

vsh,
@vsh@lemm.ee avatar

You’re preventing incoming connections that could snoop around your network. I’d say it’s linked both to privacy and security.

Outtatime,
@Outtatime@sh.itjust.works avatar

But my nicotine+ connection…

EmperorHenry,
@EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

when you use port forwarding, you’re opening yourself up to a lot of malicious activity. Someone could maliciously plant some CP on your hard drive if you have port forwarding enabled.

Lightrider, to piracy in Film studios demand IP addresses of people who discussed piracy on Reddit

Fuckingcapitalists

EmperorHenry,
@EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

They’re not just capitalists, they’re oligarchs. They feel entitled to that private information and they don’t care how much “campaign contributions” they have to give to get what they want.

Chriswild,

Not to be that guy but capitalists and oligarchs are basically the same thing given enough time. As soon as people have capital they have more power and with more power comes influence.

imkali, to piracy in Film studios demand IP addresses of people who discussed piracy on Reddit

“Why should I care about their privacy policy?” If Reddit doesn’t store this info then they can’t give it to the film studios.

Apollo2323, to piracy in Film studios demand IP addresses of people who discussed piracy on Reddit

They asking it again? Fuck man we dont even have the right to openly discussed it.

MisterD,

Like paychecks… in the United Hates of America

rivermonster, to piracy in Film studios demand IP addresses of people who discussed piracy on Reddit

End state capitalism, the coportocracy / oligarchy using the legal system they control to wield the fascist police forces against the people who don’t behave like they’re told. Meanwhile, taxing what little those people have to pay the salaries of those forces abusing them.

I mean, the studios are doing it right and following SOP.

They wrote the DCMA, used the congress they bought to pass it, the president the bought to sign it into law, and now will use the FBI and local militarized police to impose their will by force.

Constituon was an obstacle they did away with when they bought the Supreme Court.

BlackSkinnedJew, to piracy in Film studios demand IP addresses of people who discussed piracy on Reddit

They will get my VPN address so good luck finding me… 🤣🤣

grue,
BlackSkinnedJew,

🤣🤣

RubberElectrons,
@RubberElectrons@lemmy.world avatar

Right? These fucking morons can’t even write/produce good movies most of the time.

gregorum, to piracy in Film studios demand IP addresses of people who discussed piracy on Reddit

oh, boy, am I eve glad I overwrote al of my comments before deleting my account…

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