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onlinepersona, to linux in Why more PC gaming handhelds should ditch Windows for SteamOS

Year of the linux handheld then?

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AnnaFrankfurter, (edited )

Thank you for making your comment licensed under creative common. I’ll now steal it, repackage it and sell for 9.99$ without even acknowledging your existence

oce,
@oce@jlai.lu avatar

But at least you know you’re a bad boy and Santa will know too.

Abnorc,

Oh my God! Someone call the police!

Truck_kun,

But… it’s a Non-commercial Attribution license. /s/ns

I’m joking, but on a more serious note for those that don’t know, not all Creative Commons licenses allow you to monetize, and be sure to actually read which version of license is used if you plan to use a CC work for anything other than personal use.

java,

But will you train an LLM with it??

qaz,

Why did you license your comment?

dan,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

My comment is licensed under GPL. If you look at it when you reply, it means your reply is a derivative work and must retain the license. Have fun.

onlinepersona,

AI

Womble,

I don’t think linking to a licence that increases the rights of third parties to do things with your words (over the default all rights reserved) will do very much for you there.

onlinepersona,

Nobody knows yet 🤷 I’ll do it anyway

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Womble,

I think you’re missing my point. You are giving people more rights to use your comments by putting them under CC licence than not putting them under any.

onlinepersona,

I think you’re missing the point. It’s a non-commercial license. Non-commercial AI is completely fine by me. Commercial is not.

Womble,

No, how was I supposed to infer that you were fine with non-commercial AI from your two letter response to why you were licencing your comment?

I think its fairly naive to think that linking to a licence will do anything to stop commercial AI but not open ones, but you go for it if you think it’s worthwhile.

onlinepersona,

Thanks. I care very much what you think.

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

0x69,

Christ your comment is the funniest thing I’ve read in a while. Thank you for the laugh

Abnorc,

He doesn’t want to let us use his comment for commercial purposes, which is a shame. I don’t know how I’m going to pay for dinner now.

PlantObserver, (edited )

You joke but when “media” outlets boldly steal 90% of their content directly from reddit posts and comments without attribution for commercial use, maybe including a license isnt crazy anymore?

Abnorc,

It’s a bit out there, but I see why he does it. It is a shame that the media has sunk to such lows.

WarmSoda, (edited ) to linux in Why more PC gaming handhelds should ditch Windows for SteamOS

How many actual PC handhelds are there?
The link in the article that promises “plenty” of handheld examples talks about Steam deck, Asus, and… the switch. And that’s it. And obviously the switch is not a PC handheld, so… ?

n2burns,
WarmSoda,

Such as?

wren,
@wren@sopuli.xyz avatar

There’s quite a few. Steam deck and Asus, as you mentioned, but there’s also AyaNeo, GPD, OneXPlayer, Aokzoe, Lenovo, etc. And many of these brands have several different models, if you’re counting individual products.

WarmSoda,

Ah thanks.
How many of those do people actually use though?

aniki,

Valve was essentially LATE to the handheld market, they just had the technical and company will to do it the best.

WarmSoda, (edited )

I hear that.

But how many people actually use all of those other brands listed?

It’s ok to just say “no one” without downvoting.

All I’m hearing is crickets

wren,
@wren@sopuli.xyz avatar

Anecdotally, I have an Aya Neo. I know a few people with a few of the others brands. There’s a decently sized Aya Neo Discord that I’m part of, and I would assume the other brands have something similar. There’s definitely use of non-Steam handhelds, or there wouldn’t be a growing market for them.

WarmSoda,

Do you have a steam deck too?

wren,
@wren@sopuli.xyz avatar

I do not

WarmSoda,

How’s the Aya? Does it dock with the TV/monitor?

wren,
@wren@sopuli.xyz avatar

I personally love it, and yes it can with a dock similar to the Switch’s. It’s ran every game I’ve thrown at it, and I’ve an original 2021 version. There’s a few quirks, like the joysticks will sometimes just decide to not do a random direction, but recalibrating is easy. Obviously the resolution quality isn’t as stellar as if you were running a pc meant output to a monitor, but on the built in screen everything is crispy. It’s decently heavy though, so my baby wrists get tired after a while. But yeah it’s great, playing whatever wherever is pretty ace.

Woovie,

Ah yes lemme whip out my magical sales numbers ball and let you know

Secret300,

It helps they actually made their own OS to make it easier for people to get into. Windows really doesn’t work on those small screens

aniki, (edited )

Not sure what you mean – they all run Linux. The images just have the video hardware configs baked in with a preconfigured user and start script. You would be amazed at how easy that is to do, all things considered. I have a few kiosk configurations I created for the two Home Assistant panels I have in my house.

wiki.clockworkpi.com/index.php/ClockworkOS

Atemu,
@Atemu@lemmy.ml avatar

And, most importantly, money bags to subsidise the hell out of it. Let’s not kid ourselves here, the damn low price is one of the main reasons why people buy the SD rather than the ~2x more expensive alternatives.

TheOakTree,

MSI just announced their handheld PC too, it has an Intel (Meteor Lake) CPU with Arc graphics.

wren,
@wren@sopuli.xyz avatar

Oh, good shout! That one looks 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻

HobbitFoot, to linux in Why more PC gaming handhelds should ditch Windows for SteamOS

I wouldn’t ditch Windows entirely, but I could see the business case of making sure your game can run on SteamOS.

helenslunch, to linux in Why more PC gaming handhelds should ditch Windows for SteamOS
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Because Windows blows.

Saved you a click.

SnotFlickerman,
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Reminds me of my friend getting in trouble in high school’s the PC lab for changing all the startup screens from saying “Windows 95” to “Winblows 95.”

SnotFlickerman, (edited ) to linux in Why more PC gaming handhelds should ditch Windows for SteamOS
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Because Microsoft ain’t gonna make Windows any better for this form factor until it is way late to the game, as usual.

Windows is basically a product for corporations now. Consumer Windows is an afterthought most of the time.

However, I could be wrong with Xbox’s theorized pivot away from hardware.

cm0002,

Consumer Windows is an afterthought most of the time.

Always has been

Windows is an enterprise OS with consumer features and macOS is a consumer OS with enterprise features.

PerogiBoi,
@PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca avatar

And I’m a man with boy-like intellect, just in case anyone was wondering.

Hamartiogonic,
@Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz avatar

What about Linux then? A 1337 OS with some noob features sprinkled in for color? Or maybe a server OS with desktop features stapled on the front?

domi,
@domi@lemmy.secnd.me avatar

Or maybe a server OS with desktop features stapled on the front?

That is a very accurate description of Linux considering even X11 and Wayland are display servers. Pipewire and Pulseaudio are also servers.

SkyeStarfall, (edited )

Don’t misunderstand what a server means, however. Just because something is called a server doesn’t mean it’s not made for the desktop. It’s a technical term that doesn’t necessarily relate to networking, it might just relate to stuff like inter-process communication.

However, Wayland is designed for the desktop environment. It’s like the main reason why it replaces X11, which was designed for terminals.

domi,
@domi@lemmy.secnd.me avatar

My comment was mostly meant as a joke. I’m aware most of them use their networking capabilities for IPC and being able to use them remotely is just a cool feature resulting from that (except X11).

cm0002,

Linux is an everything OS with whatever features you want/need. Do you need a hardened enterprise server? Linux got you. Do you need a user friendly OS for even non-technical people? Linux got you. Do you need something that can do a little of everything? Believe it or not, Linux got you.

acockworkorange,

Straight to jail.

SatyrSack,

You underclock your laptop? Linux got you.

You overclock your gaming rig? Believe it or not, Linux got you.

Underclock, overclock.

LeFantome,

I know this is a joke comment but Linux is for sure an enterprise kernel first and foremost. It did not start that way but that is how it has been developed and managed for many years now. Maybe the most incorrect thing anybody has ever said on record in the computer industry is when Linus said Linux was “not going to be anything big and professional”.

Linux distributions, which are conceived and managed totally independently from the kernel are available for every niche. Many of them are desktop and “consumer” oriented. With many Linux distributions, I would say that it is more accurate that they are hobbiest oriented more than what Microsoft would mean be “consumer”.

Dudewitbow,

windows optimized for handhelds is already a work in progress, its just not remotely done

aniki,

Microsoft has never, since inception, been able to ship an embedded Windows that wasn’t a festering pile of dog shit.

oce,
@oce@jlai.lu avatar

Windows phone on Nokia Lumia was pretty good and well polished, and I’m a Linux fan.

Dudewitbow, (edited )

embedded windows in the japanese arcade scene has been working fine so far. for example, most of bandais arcade machines in the past like 7 yaers or so basically run embedded windows.

it was a benefit to non arcade users because a majority of games that were on those machines eventually got pc versions, or a new game on pc for the first time (e.g Tekken 7, Taiko No Tatsujin), where historically, theyve basically never been on PC officially.

aniki, (edited )

So let me get this straight – your defense of Microsoft, in this instance, is Japanese cabinet makers, making arcade machines, where the user doesn’t interact with the operating system in the slightest bit? A Japan that still faxes even in modernity? That’s your defense of MS? I bet they aren’t even using a special build of windows — just the desktop schlock with some shitty 3rd party app on top.

Dudewitbow, (edited )

im not defending mocrosoft at a whole, im just saying windows embedded isnt as bad as you actually think it is, and consumers benefitted from it more than it not

A Japan that still faxes even in modernity?

what a country does has barely anything to do with rhis context. thats like saying the U.S is shit because they didnt have tap to pay until Covid happened, whoch other countries have been usong for a decade before, or having terrible public transportation and internet infrastructure, and in the latter case, basically invented it.

That’s your defense of MS? I bet they aren’t even using a special build of windows — just the desktop schlock with some shitty 3rd party app on top.

that shows how ignorant you are with it because all of the games arent directly ported. look into the efforts required to port Gundam Extreme Versus 2 on teknoparrot. if it was a native game, then they wouldnt have to jump through as many hoops as the game doesnt have a PC port (nor any of its predecessors have ever had one)

Abnorc,

They could even bring back the Zune branding if they finally do it. It’d almost be poetic.

Ottomateeverything, (edited )

I don’t know that Microsoft has any business trying to make Windows support these devices better…

Windows is entirely built around two pillars:

  1. Enterprise support for corporations, and team machine management
  2. Entirely open compatibility so they can run almost any hardware you put into it, plug into it, and backwards compatibility for all that for as long as possible.

Portable game machines are not an enterprise product. Nor do you care about broad hardware support or upgradability. Nor do you care about plugging in your parallel port printer from 1985. Nor do you care about running your ancient vb6 code to run your production machines over some random firewire card.

Windows’ goal is entirely oppositional to portable gaming devices. It makes almost no sense for them to try to support it, as it’d go against their entire model. For things like these, you want a thin, optimized-over-flexible, purpose built OS that does one thing: play games. Linux is already built to solve this problem way better than Windows.

But, Microsoft will probably be stupid enough to try anyway.

Ibaudia, to linux in Why more PC gaming handhelds should ditch Windows for SteamOS
@Ibaudia@lemmy.world avatar

Of course Linux is better for custom, purpose-built hardware. That’s like, its main advantage for the commercial sector.

fidodo,

Also, single purpose use cases. Servers don’t necessarily run on custom hardware, but they do only one type of thing.

zelifcam, (edited )

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  • GTG3000,

    Yeah, the sole reason I don’t have linux on my old laptop is that lenovo has completely proprietary video drivers for it. I’m talking “manufacturer’s installers don’t think there’s a video card there” proprietary.

    Ottomateeverything,

    Now we just need that GFX software from intel / amd / nvidia that is available on windows, taking advantage of that newly supported hardware

    Stop, you’re making me too hard. I might be able to like, ditch Windows if that happens.

    woelkchen, (edited )
    @woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

    Edit. By software I’m talking about in game features.

    Like FSR and such? That’s available on Linux (FSR 1.x is integrated into SteamOS for compositor-level upscaling). AFAIK AMD does not officially support FSR on Linux but it’s written in a way that it should work with minor integration work. It’s written with cross-platform support in mind, given that it’s targeting PlayStation etc. als well.

    Crack0n7uesday, to upliftingnews in Experimental antibiotic kills deadly superbug, opens whole new class of drugs

    Don’t tell China, they over use it until it’s no longer effective.

    ExLisper, (edited )

    Did you mean chickens?

    Faresh, to upliftingnews in Experimental antibiotic kills deadly superbug, opens whole new class of drugs

    Does this mean we won’t have to worry about the return of bacterial infections as one of the leading causes of human mortality?

    pupbiru,

    i think the key here is:

    zosurabalpin doesn’t seem to work on any other Gram-negative bacteria besides A. baumannii. The proteins in the LPS transporter complex are not conserved across different bacteria. Thus, targeting the LPS transporters of other nefarious Gram-negative bacteria will take yet more drug development research. One bright side of this, as Gugger and Hergenrother note in their commentary, is that it may produce species-specific antibiotics, which could protect patients’ microbiomes from being obliterated by broad-spectrum drugs, which we now appreciate is bad for human health.

    And, of course, with any new antibiotic, there’s the inevitability that bacteria will develop resistance. The researchers already found that select mutations in the LPS transporter machinery can knock back the drug’s potency. Also, A. baumannii doesn’t need LPS to stay alive. That said, simply blocking LPS production would leave A. baumannii more vulnerable, and it’s unclear how that trade-off will play out in clinical settings.

    Lath,

    No. It means there's a lull in the battle until the next wave.

    RedditWanderer,

    No, not really. It’s only a matter of time before they are resistant to this one too, and I don’t know that we can help it even if distribution antibiotics carefully.

    A war like Ukraine or a Genocide like Gaza tends to speed up bacterial resistance a lot, while breakthroughs are rare. I don’t see anything in this article that says it will be more difficult for bugs to become resistant to it. All bugs evolve constantly.

    Pyr_Pressure,

    If you alternate between uses it responsibly it would be unlikely that anything would arise to be immune to both types.

    You use type A to kill most things and then Type B to kill those resistant to type A.

    Something would need to arise to be both resistant to Type A and Type B at the same time which would be highly unlikely.

    RedditWanderer,

    Name me one thing humans have been 100% reponsible with, from nuclear weapons to airplanes. Especially when it comes to antibiotics, people are going to take what they have available.

    So as was saying, it will always be a race.

    ad_on_is, to privacy in Pornhub pulls out of Montana, NC as age-verification battle rages on
    @ad_on_is@lemmy.world avatar

    “PornHub pulls out” 🙊

    Metal_Zealot, to privacy in Pornhub pulls out of Montana, NC as age-verification battle rages on
    @Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml avatar

    No one’s made a “pulling out” joke yet?

    swag_money,

    other than the one in the title?

    dontblink, to privacy in Pornhub pulls out of Montana, NC as age-verification battle rages on
    @dontblink@feddit.it avatar

    What about sexual and emotional education in schools?

    captainlezbian,

    Oh they’ve wanted that gone forever.

    folkrav, (edited )

    The people who really think of age verification as effective measures tend to also be against having those in schools in the first place.

    independantiste,
    @independantiste@sh.itjust.works avatar

    That would involve cutting 0.001% of the road budgets… Nope!!

    Wahots, (edited ) to privacy in Pornhub pulls out of Montana, NC as age-verification battle rages on
    @Wahots@pawb.social avatar

    “develop a technological standard that might turn a user’s electronic device into the proof of age necessary to access restricted online content.”

    Can we not? Can parents just take care of their kids like they have for thousands of years instead of futility trying to babyproof the internet for a minority of people? Jesus.

    Jknaraa, (edited )

    Can parents just take care of their kids like they have for thousands of years

    Okay, so lets be certain that kids do not have a direct connection with every intelligence agency, mafia and terrorist organization in the world right in their pocket, just as they did not for thousands of years. Now, to be clear I really don’t like the approach they’ve chosen here (I think we need to go much deeper into the fundamental design of the Internet), but I would hope it’s not a controversial statement to assert that our society has taken a very sharp turn for the worse ever since the Internet became ubiquitous in children’s development, and I think that really ought to prompt discussion about how it’s being used.

    fruitycoder,

    Controversially, I think the Internet has made society better. We’re still in the growing years of the age of information, so plenty of challenges to overcome for sure, but it largely has made for a more informed society and really empowered the average person despite the resurgence of authoritarianism.

    CazRaX,

    In other words parents need to be parents and take care of their kids, glad you agree with the OP.

    Jknaraa,

    Not sure why you’re taking a tone which suggests you think I don’t agree with you.

    Outtatime,
    @Outtatime@sh.itjust.works avatar

    So there are laws that people agree with that say people under 18 cannot buy/see porn at the store. What makes this any different

    thisisnotgoingwell,

    Basically PH and other xxx sites need you to verify your identity by uploading your ID. It’s what should be unconstitutional and a violation of privacy.

    Gooey0210,

    Probably the bigger issue is the centralization of the internet

    If we would have some more decentralized way of consuming content, then it would be harder to censor or control it

    The internet nowadays is essentially just google, facebook, and pornhub

    So applying a rule you can just target one company which will comply anyway because this is communism

    Outtatime, (edited )
    @Outtatime@sh.itjust.works avatar

    I believe the responsibility should be on the parents to keep their children from viewing porn before they’re 18. Not the government. I also believe there should be at least some control over what minors have access to. Will it ever be 100%? Nope. All we can do is the best we can do

    Gooey0210,

    And this one too of course

    What i was just trying to say was about governments trying to put restrictions in the name of kids, anti-terrorism, etc

    The same way they can’t “protect” people from torrenting sites, here they are trying to protect kids from nsfw

    Of course parents need to educate their kids themselves, tell them what good and bad, and be in contact with their kids

    Or at least parents can set up parent mode on kids devices, or home network dns filtering

    Sacrificing privacy of millions in the name of minority which will find their way anyway is ridiculous

    Dempf,

    That was the opinion of the Supreme Court nearly 20 years ago in Ashcroft vs. ACLU, but here we are.

    PropaGandalf,

    Yeah fuck the state. Only overprotective, power hungry loosers work there anyways.

    ImplyingImplications,

    It’s like mandating all cars need to have an ignition interlock because some people drive drunk.

    taladar,

    The difference is that the people involved there are adults and there is no equivalent to the parent responsible for their behaviour so a technical solution makes more sense there.

    pugsnroses77,

    or a real example that most newer cars have a “check rear seat for occupant” alert because some people forget their babies in the backseat and they die…

    ElBarto,
    @ElBarto@sh.itjust.works avatar

    This is a world for children, a world that adults have to keep alive.

    captainlezbian,

    This is a world for everyone in it. We shouldn’t actively make it hostile to children, but we also shouldn’t be prioritizing forcing every aspect of it to fit their needs.

    Our need to keep it alive isn’t just for children, it’s for everyone, which is also completely unrelated to censorship of sexual content

    Serinus,

    Especially since parenting is the only thing that’s going to actually work. Do you think kids won’t figure out a VPN? If they heard enough to type “pornhub”, they’ll hear about the one extra step.

    And there are worse things on the Internet than porn. Some likely on Roblox.

    You’re just going to have to parent your kid with or without this nanny state blocking scheme.

    eager_eagle, to privacy in Pornhub pulls out of Montana, NC as age-verification battle rages on
    @eager_eagle@lemmy.world avatar

    pulls out heh

    Extrasvhx9he,

    Ha

    Cheradenine, (edited )

    There’s also this gem at the end

    Aylo can expect that law enforcement will continue watching Pornhub closely

    ETA : if you don’t read arstechnica, really , you should

    jaybone,

    Also rages on.

    library_napper, to linux in SSH protects the world’s most sensitive networks. It just got a lot weaker
    @library_napper@monyet.cc avatar

    So hardened ssh configs following best practice cipher whitelist are unaffected, cool

    possiblylinux127, to linux in SSH protects the world’s most sensitive networks. It just got a lot weaker

    I might just go ahead and change the default port. Problem solved

    SeeJayEmm,
    @SeeJayEmm@lemmy.procrastinati.org avatar

    If someone going through the effort to target you with a MitM over the Internet, that’s not going to stop them.

    Just diable the affected ciphers and/or update opened.

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