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LongbottomLeaf, to risa in Yet they immediately forgot again

that what*

xusontha, to risa in Yet they immediately forgot again

wait till they rediscover seatbelts

lemillionsocks,
@lemillionsocks@beehaw.org avatar

THEY DO HAVE THEM! Every once in a while a trek will show seatbelts and then proceed to forget about them later.

Zorque,

That's what the inertial dampeners are for!

... if they were working

xusontha,

Have you tried diverting power from life support yet?

aeronmelon,

“Inertial dampeners have failed.”

Many times someone will say this while the ships is performing combat maneuvers at several hundred kilometers per second.

If that were true, everyone onboard would instantly become “chunky salsa.” (Obscure Trek-related quote, for anyone that can place it.)

GreenPlasticSushiGrass,
@GreenPlasticSushiGrass@kbin.social avatar

If bracing for impact is good enough for the Enterprise, it's good enough for my Hyundai.

aeronmelon,
TheFriendlyArtificer,

In my CRV I’ll often initiate attack plan omega.

Maultasche,

Isn’t there a joke about that in Nemesis?

Nacktmull,

and start actually putting on space suits when they should.

StillPaisleyCat,
@StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website avatar

Then gatekeeping fans will say it breaks canon, has to be an alternate timeline/universe because they didn’t need those in TOS/TNG.

Oh, wait, that’s one of the criticisms of the environmental suits in Discovery and SNW…

Nacktmull,

There are a lot of things to criticize about Discovery. How someone could choose to pick the spacesuits evades me.

xusontha,

But then they can’t get infected by the secret bioengineered virus left behind by the extinct species!

Nacktmull,

That would of course be a missed opportunity to tell the millionth variation of a space horror story almost as old as the sci-fi genre itself.

Kolanaki, (edited ) to risa in Yet they immediately forgot again
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

Do we have fuses that can safely dissipate like 350Megajoules? I don’t remember which specific episode it was, but I remember on DS9 they were going to overload the warpcore to stop something and someone said the only system on the station capable of absorbing that much raw electrical energy was the shield system, since that’s literally what it is; a giant fuse.

Spaghetti_Hitchens,

Do we have fuses that can safely dissipate like 350Megajoules?

A 350 Megajoule fuse oughta do it

marcos, (edited )

Hum… I have a 75MJ varistor on each phase of the main wiring of my house. Those are not fuses (because fuses don’t have a total energy specification) but I can certainly get a few more for the Enterprise it they want.

Ilovethebomb,

That’s 21 kilowatt hours worth of energy, are you sure about that?

marcos,

Yes, I’m sure. I used to have 5MJ ones, but one burned down once. So I got the large ones. AFAIK, they are the largest that will fit 1 unity in a DIM panel. It’s supposed to change phases more than once if it receives that kind of abuse, but keep safely conducting electricity all the way.

It’s a common component around lightning protection. You’d want something better to actually deal with the lightning if your network is unprotected (there are plenty of options), but mine is protected.

Neato,
@Neato@kbin.social avatar

Fuses don't dissipate electricity. They pass electricity and then blow when exceeded. Blowing is either flipping off (like your breaker) or breaking (like replaceable fuses). The point of a fuse is to be the weakest link so if a surge occurs it doesn't damage equipment or wiring.

In the case you described, they were looking for a load (where energy is used or dissipated to do work) to absorb that much energy at once. There might be a fuse that could withstand that kind of load; there was wiring that could afterall. But if the shield system could absorb the full power of an overloaded warp core, it might not have needed one if there was no downside to overcharging it.

mkwt, to risa in Yet they immediately forgot again

Once again I remind you all that these consoles are not powered by a substance as boring as regular electricity. Oh no. It has to be highly energetic tuned plasma…straight to the user interface consoles…for, uh, reasons.

Zorque,

Gotta have a way to effortlessly kill redshirts. Whoops! Another plasma conduit blew out. Poor Gary.

aeronmelon,

The reason is because the engines produce this material as a waste product. So instead of venting it into space it’s processed and funneled back through the ship to power everything from lights to equipment.

Very efficient and very VERY dangerous. Many Vulcans retired from the VSA because Humans pulled shit like this.

mkwt,

All I’m saying is, there’s no way this would pass a MIL-STD-882 safety assessment in the twenty first century. So I have no idea how they got their spaceworthiness certificate.

Cethin,

Wouldn’t it be easier and safer to just use it to generate boring old electricity and send that through the ship? Maybe the danger is there to keep the crew excited and working at maximum efficiency…

keefshape,

You have dangerous ideas.

Blue_Morpho,

I like the theory that it’s sent to the bridge to uplift the morale of the regular crew. They knew the officers will be the first to get blown up in any hostile encounter.

It keeps the captain in check if he knows he’s going to get a blown up console to the face instead of a lower deck red shirt dying .

When those protocols can’t be used like in landing parties, it’s the red shirts who die first.

CCF_100, to risa in Yet they immediately forgot again

Resettable fuses and circuit breakers!

Sdnimm543, to risa in Yet they immediately forgot again

Battle shorting the practice of negating the fuses in a ship or other war machine because a blown fuse disabling a key system could lead to the loss of the whole ship in battle, and the equipment can maybe work over its rated limit for a time when necessary. Cathode Ray Dude did a video about it. www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpJ_6LCly4A

bouh,

Something can probably be done though with matter synthetiser and teleporters.

Spot,
@Spot@startrek.website avatar

“In a battle or emergency, where the survival of the vessel (or other protected asset) is dependent upon the continued operation of the equipment, it is sometimes wiser to risk equipment damage than have the equipment shut down when it is needed. For example, the electrical drives to elevate and traverse the guns of a combat warship may have “battleshort” fuses, which are simply copper bars of the correct size to fit the fuse holders, as failure to return fire in a combat situation is a greater threat to the ship and crew than damaging or overheating the electrical motors.”

Huh. Learn something all the time.

Sharpiemarker,

So sticking a penny in the fuse slot in my car is actually a galaxy brain move.

funkless_eck,

when your car is under fire, yes.

Sharpiemarker,

If it’s not under fire, it’ll be on fire.

agamemnonymous,
@agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works avatar

Since fire rises(in atmosphere) anything on fire is technically under fire

Florn, to risa in Vulcans are like Onions...

Sh’rek

tias,

Isn’t that Daniel Jackson’s girlfriend

FlyingSquid, to risa in Yet they immediately forgot again
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Maybe don’t put so many things that can catch fire on the bridge too.

ininewcrow,
@ininewcrow@lemmy.ca avatar

In the 24th Century they discovered that liquid napalm was a highly efficient electrical conductor … so they used it to wire their ships.

bouh, to risa in Yet they immediately forgot again

Another problem is about where to redirect the overcharge. In space there is no ground where the current can go. Yet you need to dissipate the energy somewhere.

Kichae,

Back at the attacking ship, obviously!

Honytawk,

Let me just pull a grounding wire to there.

ThunderclapSasquatch,

Grounding HARPOON YAAAAAAR

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot,

I mean, the NX-01 did have a harpoon.

GnothiSeauton,

Ackchyually they were grapplers, not harpoons.

bingbong,

I can’t handle the pedantry in this thread

I need an adult

Anticorp,

Right out the deflector dish.

Mr_Blott,

Fancy name for the toilets

bingbong,

Poseidon’s Zeus’ kiss

helpImTrappedOnline,

It’s probably grounded to the hull somewhere, put in a couple electric gizmos and feed the power back into your batteries. Now the enemy is charging your ship while they blow it up because you didn’t turn on your sheild.

Ciel, to risa in Vulcans are like Onions...
@Ciel@lemmygrad.ml avatar

shark would work too then

xusontha, (edited ) to risa in The answer is: Yes

yes

The question is, is there any time he SHOULDN’T shut up (the answer is also no)

gravitas_deficiency, to risa in Yet they immediately forgot again

Oh great, now what am I supposed to do with all these extra damage-accentuation rocks?!?

niktemadur, (edited ) to risa in The answer is: Yes

If a Kolvoord Starburst goes off in The Neutral Zone
and there’s no one there to see it,

Must Wesley still shut up?

Coldgoron, to risa in The answer is: Yes

If I was in a room with bin laden, hitler, and wesley crusher with only two bullets, Id shoot wesley twice. -coldgoron -michael scott

The_Picard_Maneuver, to risa in Put 'em up, put 'em up! Which one of you first? I'll fight you both together if you want.
@The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website avatar

If I only had a heart to go with my positronic brain…

https://startrek.website/pictrs/image/f392d4ef-5c9c-4cae-8788-d93cf3e57510.png

ininewcrow, (edited )
@ininewcrow@lemmy.ca avatar

Janeway just came back from the Delta Quadrant and found the Scarecrow … he definitely needs a brain

https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/c9e0fdac-c330-42a8-bb75-6bc286e125b9.jpeg

ummthatguy,
@ummthatguy@lemmy.world avatar

Ah, I went with Gorney Gale. How he hasn’t eaten Toto already is beyond me.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/5598b4ca-4c23-414a-8507-82e632e40d60.jpeg

Crackhappy,
@Crackhappy@lemmy.world avatar

All of these are fucking GOLD.

ininewcrow,
@ininewcrow@lemmy.ca avatar

Not until you realize that Toto is a far more deadly animal than the Gorn.

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