How did steel and aluminum parts react after coming into contact with hot water and soap? I can imagine a non-trivial amount of milling/resurfacing of any interface that is meant to take a gasket due to how metals react to caustic environments.
Unless you disabled the dishwasher’s internal heating element and used degreasers instead of water… that makes a lot more sense.
I just used dishwasher tablets and It was fine as long as you took the parts out straight away while they were still “you need gloves” hot and hit them with WD40 or sat them in the sun. Never had an issue so long as I did that.
I work in a production line that makes parts for diesel engines. We wash the parts in water and alkaline solution, then they hit a drier and get dried. Basically a giant dishwasher. The company is multi million dollar and world wide.
Just a long winded way of saying your imagination is wrong
You guys arent talking about aluminium thats been under the hood of a Honda Civic for 25 years, heat cycled literally thousands of times and covered in all manner of filth.
The bare aluminum became discolored, rough and ugly. Food sticks to it more, requiring more scrubbing to clean them. I dont know what that reaction is from a materials science perspective, though, if thats what you’re asking.
IF your dishwasher is working properly then you ought to be able to put your poop knife, dinner dishes AND toilet brushes in and everything comes out sanitary.
Don’t ask why there is peanut butter left on the knife. You’ll be ok.
This isn’t true. A generic dishwasher for at home is not up for the task. Even the stuff they use in restaurants aren’t up for the task. And they already wash with boiling water. Despite this, there are always leftovers. I had the task of cleaning these things at a maccy Ds. Found pink mold that thrived in coffee grounds to survive the dishwaser perfectly. Like the pink goo from the teletubbies.
Yeah, you need a dishwasher with a proper sanitize cycle. Most residential dishwashers, even some with an alleged sanitize cycle, aren’t up to the task. This is why laboratories will pay top dollar for an industrial dishwasher that looks nearly identical to a residential version but it actually will sanitize its contents.
Oh totally. If I had a dedicated shitwasher, sure, but not in the dishwasher with my dishes and utensils. I’m a microbiologist so I’m pretty cavalier about my everyday microbe exposure but that’s a really bad idea.
Try and explain to some people here that not all germs are the same and not all germs/parasites get killed at 90 or 95°C 😒.
Dedicated dishwasher (which I would never buy, since I wash those things like once a year), sure. But, hotels doing that, yeah, I can see it and there is nothing wrong with that, as long as they’re done separately in a dedicated one.
Holup, you raise an interest point. A true sanitize cycle is heat. It gets hit enough to kill everything.
How the fuck is a plastic toilet cleaning brush surviving the level of heat sufficient to kill all bacteria?
If the original dishwasher from the past for got enough to kill bacteria, the brush couldn’t survive. Therefore, the dishwasher isn’t getting hot enough to kill bacteria. Therefore don’t put poopy plastic into your dishwasher!
So what we’re looking at is sanitize vs sterilize.
A sanitize cycle typically gets the temperature of the water up to about 65-75°C and holds it there for at least 1.5 hours. This kills the vast majority of pathogenic microbes as human pathogens typically live at around human body temperature. You’ll see ads on how this cycle kills 99.999% of microbes, but the fine print typically states something along the lines of “foodborne microbes” or “pathogenic microbes”. Anything outside of that may survive, especially if it’s a species that forms endospores or a toilet brush.
Sterilizing by definition kills anything living and deactivates viruses. You won’t get sterilization by heat in any dishwasher, which is why laboratories and medical facilities sterilize with an autoclave. An autoclave utilizes pressure to raise the water temperature up to around 120-135°C without it boiling. This still won’t sterilize everything, particularly the aforementioned endospore forming bacteria, but it’s functionally sterilized for most purposes. For true sterilization, certain autoclaves can reach much higher temperatures and pressures, in excess of 600°C and 0.5 GPa, respectively, which obliterates fairly well everything, but those are extremely uncommon and for niche uses as temperatures that high may just melt your glassware.
This is the same sort of reason why you can’t 3d print items that will come in contact with food. 3d printing leaves microscopic holes in the surface of the object, and once food gets in there, it’s never coming out and will become a breeding ground for all kinds of nasty stuff.
Yeah I was gonna mention that I don’t think the soap and steam really care if it’s poop germs or food germs. As long as your dishwasher is working properly, everything in there should be snapped out of existence.
Seriously just make sure the peanut butter is rinsed off beforehand.
My brother in Christ it’s still extremely hot steam and soap. I didn’t mean they’re the same kind of germs but they’re germs. High temperature and soap kills them because if they didn’t I got bad news for the dude who shit himself and tried to shower. My point was they all die.
Well, it’s a hospital. They handle a lot worse than poopy bacteria. Just because carpenters bring a nailgun that doesn’t mean a hammer isn’t nearly good enough.
See, this makes sense to me. It’s the same way with anything IMO. If it involves bodily fluids, beyond native saliva and tears, you probably want to wash it specifically. At least in its own load, possibly in a different machine entirely, maybe even get it professionally handled, or clean it with fire. Depending on the severity of the soiling…
I have no issue with someone using a thing that was designed for another purpose to do something that it’s designers didn’t think of. As long as you’re not cross contaminating your food with it, I couldn’t really care less… But bluntly, using your dishwasher, the same one you use for dishes, to clean your poop scrubber? Big nope from me.
I worked at a restaurant in the kitchen. We had a place on the wall to hang brushes. The GREEN brushes were to be used for food/prep areas only. The white brushes were for cleaning toilets, and other filthy places.
The white brushes were soaked in buckets and rinsed/washed thoroughly in a slop sink, then later, put in the racks that push through the dishwasher conveyor belt that ran through the machine if I recall correctly. It’s been more than 20 years
You don’t have to be a right winger to make fun of the worst disregard for cinematic safety standards since John Landis. It would be a mistake for the left to embrace and defend this guy.
Trump isn’t exactly pro 2A so there’s not as much unified love for him in the gun community as you would think. The mag is more because Baldwin is a rabid gun grabber that ignored basic gun safety and killed someone.
The NRA hasn’t been relevant to mainstream gun owners in years. And I’m not sure what ranges you’ve been to, I’ve found more diversity at small family owned ranges in central Oklahoma than I did in Starbucks in Seattle. When I lived in WA before OK I was almost always in the minority at the range as a straight white male. Gun ownership is far more diverse than just MAGA assholes and the NRA used to have power because millions of voting gun owners agreed with their message at the time. That hasn’t been the case in a decade and they have never spent enough to be politically relevant from traditional lobbying alone.
That’s good to know. TBH most of what I was talking about was my experiences at ranges and gun shops in Eastern PA, a little N of Philadelphia. A few years ago I moved to a large city in the mid-West and haven’t had a chance to visit many ranges; and the ones close to me are indoor – I’d have to travel a bit to get rural enough to find an outdoor range. So I honestly don’t know how things have changed in the past 5 years, and things tend to be more liberal it large metro areas anyway.
It’s encouraging to hear that tha NRA is losing support. I still feel that Trump is considered safer for 2A than Biden; if he’s (Trump) not actively defending 2A, he’s at least not talking about strengthening gun laws. And that hasn’t changed: 2A is still a single-issue voting decider. Relatively few of us gun owners are not passionate about gun ownership, where it’s a hobby, not a lifestyle.
I still feel that Trump is considered safer for 2A than Biden; if he’s (Trump) not actively defending 2A, he’s at least not talking about strengthening gun laws.
Feelings aside, trump banned bump stocks and Biden hasn’t done much of anything but talk.
Trump did more directly but behind the scenes Biden has been a nightmare. The ATF should be disbanded and the majority charged for deprivation of rights under the color of law at this point.
I mean, it’s not my talking point. 2A is a key plank of the Rebublican platform, regardless of how little they can control Orange Putin. While addressing gun violence is a key plank in the Democrat one. Maybe discerning voters like yourself will change their votes based on this - I doubt any “gun nut” in central PA will. Trump doesn’t talk about guns, Biden does. Words speak louder than actions in American politics.
Frankly, I don’t think 2A is a topic Trump has an opinion about, or gives much thought to. He’ll pass whatever gun legislation he thinks will make him more popular, and after Las Vegas, throwing his weight behind legislation that the NRA itself had advocated and had been in the works for 2 years before he was elected (thanks, Obama!) was an easy win.
To be clear, I’m not a proponent of 2A. While I enjoy the hobby and indulge in ownership, I believe the 2A is anachronistic and unable to satisfy the purbose for which it was made. And we do have a gun violence issue in the US; if it were at all feasible to eliminate the 2A and all guns, I’d support it. I’m just saying that if you ask a random 2A MAGA which candidate is their choice on this point, they’ll say “Trump.”
He didn’t ignore basic gun safety. Firearms on movie sets are not the same as firearms everywhere else. There is supposed to be a dedicated person who is directly responsible for ensuring live ammunition is never, ever brought close to a prop gun. I’ve posted this elsewhere at one point, but as somebody who has worked on productions with blank-firing guns, the cast and crew are not allowed to inspect, touch, or come near any firearm on set apart from the shortest time required for the scene. The firearms are secured before and after the scene, and there should never, ever be a chance for live ammunition to get inside a prop. The armorer guarantees the gun is safe, and are the ones responsible for it.
The armorer for this production appears to not have followed those protocols, and that’s where Baldwin’s potential culpability is-- not as an actor who shot somebody, but as a producer who should have had better oversight of the armorer.
Omg there’s this toy my kid had (we gave it away) that we called the “Euro Crab” and it would play European Rave/EDM type music and frantically zipped side to side around your living room. My dog was traumatized.
Highly exaggerated by the masculinist movement, I know many people who aren’t in good shape and never were that have a relationship/family life that most would envy
I think it definitely anecdotally helps with confidence, but went searching and seems like at least some studies corroborate this common view, at least for self-esteem
I definitely agree the attempt at directly correlating gym plans to dating is often mis-played. But, there’s solid advice out there about using basic fitness and exercise to combat depression and mood problems. Even if lifting iron won’t do a whole lot for you, occasionally going out for a walk or riding on a bike/kayak/etc will often improve your attitude. And yeah, in the end being less depressed is probably good for dating - just not good to form the direct expectation.
I’ve seen lots of people get obsessed over their “fit” looks, and sometimes them going to the gym is both caused and made worse by more obsession with fitness.
Personally, it helped my confidence a lot and made me happier in my body to hit the gym. Seeing progress in something where you have to have grit and dedication usually does help people boost their confidence though, like learning an instrument or a new language, especially in children. Nothing as rewarding as meeting one’s own goals, if you ask me.
The vast majority of the population doesn’t go to the gym and their exercise consists of doing random physical activities around the house, going on walks or having a physically demanding job but a bunch of people with low self esteem got convinced by the internet that they’re hopeless if they don’t go to the gym… Oh and here, buy their product and treat women like shit while you’re at it because it all goes together! That’s what self esteem feels like bitches!
“It doesn’t hurt to” is an idiom meaning it can be beneficial. It doesn’t mean you were arguing that it hurts to be fit. I’m saying it’s not necessary to be fit but it might still be worthwhile.
Seems like you’re looking at these people as a monolith. Most of us treat the gym like a horticulturist treats their garden, it’s therapeutic while also being beneficial. Sure there’s the guys that follow all of the social media “gurus” but you can usually tell who they are by their gear and what they spend most of their time talking about.
9/10 times the guys with the most experience and general level of fitness are the ones that just wear old cut offs and go home to go drink a protein shake. The ones railing pre workout and listening to Andrew Tate aren’t there for the right reasons so they generally never get anywhere with it.
People who aren’t in good shape attract other people who aren’t in good shape. There is someone for everyone. Well not really, but those people are content with each other.
Not really true and you realize that you can just not do exercise without being 400lbs right? Even in the periods where I wasn’t into exercising my weight was stable around ~145lbs at 5’8", I just looked like a regular guy and dated plenty of beautiful women during that time.
As a woman I would like to add that the Fitness part is not true. Of course if you want to ask out a gym girl she will care about fitness, but also if you want to ask a “fashion” girl out she will care about fashion and so on. Know your target before putting effort in the wrong thing. I’m the type that cares zero about fitness.
Hygiene, manners and not being a creep is default tho. Please do that.
I am a lady and do care about fitness, not so much for looks but as a sign guys take reasonable care of their health. When younger, didn’t care much. But now I am older and guys who are inactive fall apart, and become a lot of work. I know that there’s no guarantee of health but much better odds of more healthy years if a guy takes care of his physical body.
Be the change you want to see in the world! We’re at the beginning of greatness here, the tip of a drill that will pierce the fediverse, carving out a meme that future generations will never see the bottom of!
It wouldn’t be the heat used for drying, it would be the heat used for washing. Assuming that you have a dishwasher with a sanitize cycle/option always use it. they are required to reach a minimum temperature of 150f. typical range in actual products is 165ºF to 180ºF (74ºC to 82ºC)
I’m not proud of this, but I need to ask. My sister insists on cleaning the toilet brushes in the dishwasher’s top rack, and I have reservations. To me, it doesn’t seem very sanitary. Thoughts?
I mean, if a household that keeps kosher has two sets of everything (plateware, silverware, sinks, etc) to make sure meat doesn’t touch dairy…the logic states you should have a different machine/method for excrement-related things to ensure it doesn’t touch your normal plateware and silverware.
I, personally, would not be comfortable using the machine again for food related things if I found out my housemate had washed the toilet brush in our dishwasher. Poop is meant to be expelled from your body, not consumed in any way - may I remind (the royal) you how pink eye originates?
lemmyshitpost
Active
This magazine is from a federated server and may be incomplete. Browse more on the original instance.