As I said it doesn’t matter and I am tired of pretending otherwise. Just pick a book that agrees with what you think already and read it. We are a post-truth society. You read his alternative history because you wanted confirmation now you want other books that also confirm you. Since the plural of anecdotes is data, the plural of opinion is alternative facts, the plural of lies is our truth.
At this point I’ve just blocked every AI art community that I come across. The art itself is rarely interesting and it’s really easy to spot. Kinda wish lemmy had more artists, would love some human-made stuff to balance it out.
Some of us are a lot more hesitant about internet-publicly sharing work now, since it’ll likely be scraped and used for someone else’s profit.
Rational worry or not, I know I just don’t post what I’ve been working on because of that. I know I’m not some artistic genius, but I still don’t like my data being hoovered up for any purpose, be they privacy concerns or training models without my explicit consent. Same way when I show my work IRL I wouldn’t be happy if someone was dragging around a photocopier, or taking high-res photos of everything I do. Granted, I have the same concerns about even posting comments, but that’s had the upside of my posting less.
I totally get this concern. Copyright law seems to barely benefit the small artist when a large tech company can “train” their AI on others work without their consent. I personally would love to see all the LLM producers be held accountable for the IP theft they have perpetrated on such a massive scale.
Its just concentrating power in large tech companies who are stealing to profit. The great job they’ve done is find yet another loophole in an already broken system. They are not “showing everyone” anything… People, largely, dont give a shit about that kind of thing. Thats why there are loopholes to exploit in the first place.
If the law is unjust does that mean the criminal is good? No.
If the law is unjust doesn’t that mean the criminal is bad? No.
Take the worst most vile corporation in human history, partner them with thirty other of the most disgusting inhuman monsters of a corporation. A true legend of doom! Then have your legion of doom take advantage of a small legal hole in the copyright system. Is the copyright system now a good just system because very bad people got around it? Was it a good justice system before that?
The moral character of a person and how good the law is are seperate independent facts. I don’t care that some big tech is exploiting the hole I don’t care if the nicest person whomever lived was. The law is shit and I won’t defend a shit system. Me attacking a bad law is not me defending a lawbreaker.
The good news is because it is groups with deep pockets breaking this shit system is regular folks have a shot of being free of it. Me vs a giant media company? I will lose. A billionaire against one? They might win. Once it is understood that running something thru an AI removes the copyright the rest of us can gain.
Oh sorry I forgot to ask. How is copying the same as stealing? If I take your money you no longer have it, and I do. If I copy your idea do you still have your idea?
I have to drop my daughter off at dance class for 45 minutes every week. Fortunately there’s a Taco Bell nearby that led me to discover the wonder that is Baja Blast Zero. Now it gives me something to look forward to every week.
Reading through the comments, I think OP’s question is skipping the root of the controversy here, which is whether or not that content even is art.
As a child of the 90s, a good example that comes to mind would be something like the Windows Media Visualizer - colorful and fun to look at, but it’s just an algorithm interpreting a sound.
If I sneezed into a microphone, ran that recording through Windows Media Player, then posted a screenshot of the swirly colors here exclaiming “Hey Lemmy - Do you like this art I made?” …would that even be an honest question? It’d probably just get downvoted cuz folks would take one look at it and conclude “You didn’t make that, and it’s not art.”
If I posted that same picture but instead with the title “Lol I sneezed into Windows Media Player, and the visualizer went nuts!” I’d probably get a more positive response - it’d still be a shitpost, but readers wouldn’t feel like they’re being lied to.
So… is an algorithm even capable of producing art?
And if no, is it the end product we have an issue with, or just the perception of being misled? …cuz even if something isn’t “art” doesn’t mean it can’t have beauty or some other feature worthy of our attention. Another poster mentioned sunsets - those aren’t art, but we still admire the hell out of them.
My take on all of the above:
Don’t give a fuck if it’s technically art or not
If it’s presented in a dishonest way, I don’t like the post, and will downvote regardless of the content.
If the content looks cool, I can appreciate that in-and-of-itself; so, as long as the presentation isn’t misleading, I don’t mind it at all.
So… is an algorithm even capable of producing art?
What is it exactly do you think humans do? An algorithm is a sequence(s) used to achieve goal(s). Isn’t problem solving one of the most important aspects of our existence?
I’m not bothering because you’re an LLM maximalist troll who’s consistently had the most braindead, utterly ridiculous takes in any thread even vaguely related to AI, and anything I say gets ignored because you’re too busy gargling OpenAI’s balls. So instead, I’ll just point and laugh at your absurdist takes. :)
If I sneezed into a microphone, ran that recording through Windows Media Player, then posted a screenshot of the swirly colors here exclaiming “Hey Lemmy - Do you like this art I made?” …would that even be an honest question? It’d probably just get downvoted cuz folks would take one look at it and conclude “You didn’t make that, and it’s not art.”
I’d argue there is potentially up to three artists here. The creator of the algorithm, the creator of the sound/music, and the person mashing the two together to create the final product. Just because a machine is used in the process doesn’t remove the acts of expression.
Same with most AI tools. You have the creators of the training material (or culmination of inspiration), the engineers creating the AI, and the person leveraging both to create a derivative work. All artists in their own right, IMO.
Even if you created an LLM that just took a randomized seed and spit out trash poems and displays them only in an enclosed dark box all without any human interaction, I’d still consider that art. Put that in an art gallery installation and people would stand around and speculate over what was happening in the black box.
the memorial in Hiroshima Japan. And equivocally pearl harbour. Pearl harbour was a must after Hiroshima as you can see how a side can really darken and twist a lot of it with a heavy layer of undying racism. Kids in Japan still send paper cranes.
I really like the idea of changing settings midway through a show. A story would start in ancient China, then switch to the distant future (with the same characters, situation, and ongoing plot), then switch to WWII (same characters, etc), and so on.
I have no idea what kind of story would work with that kind of setting change, but I really like the idea.
And then I’d like to see the same kind of setting bouncing, but with the characters being aware of the switches, and trying to gain advantage through it. Kind of like Inception, but less terrible.
If it was a heist movie, then the lead up could be in 1942 Paris - the thieves are anti-Nazi resistance and Allied spies, then, when it comes time for the theft to occur, it would switch to some third millennia setting on a space station. All the characters are the same. The Nazi general who has gathered gold from people sent to concentration camps is now the governor of the heavy helium mining operation (I dunno), played by the same actor, with a different accent, referring to the same events that happened previously. Then it’d switch to some other setting for the escape - but it would be the same characters with the same motivations/foibles/history.
You could make it similar to Quantum Leap jumping through time within family members. Slowly realizing what’s happening and leaving notes for themselves like 50 first dates. The most confusing would be not knowing a full true family history or what they will be in the middle of when they take control.
You could have an adult brain in womb. Or in hospice.
If you want to use userscripts, definitely install Violentmonkey instead of Greasemonkey or Tampermonkey, as Tampermonkey is proprietary and steals user data and Greasemonkey hasn’t been updated in years
Stop suggesting Greasemonkey and Tampermonkey. Tampermonkey is proprietary and steals user data, and Greasemonkey hasn’t been updated since 2021. Use Violentmonkey, it’s completely FOSS and up-to-date.
Hey I’m also using Violentmonkey and always recommend it over other options. But your comment got me wondering and I’ve checked. Turns out Greasemonkey actually dropped a new version a month ago. Not that this changes anything for me, just wanted to correct the statement.
No problem. Unfortunately Tampermonkey is recommended in many articles, guides, blog posts, etc. because people are unaware of what it does. Violentmonkey should be far more popular, so users stop downloading proprietary crap, simply because it’s the best known userscript extension.
I think there may be a factor of sample size; There’s something like 40 million Canadians, 40 million Australians, 60 million British, and 340 million Americans. So if you take a random sample of English speech on any topic, it’s statistically most likely to be from an American.
I’ve seen some in the US that run slowly until you get close. I guess they think that if it was stopped completely, people would assume it’s non-operational.
It took me a while, but it really grew on me. I’m a big fan of their vanilla cola, and grape flavours. But yes, it is a bit of an acquired taste maybe.
USD. I am using the 4% rule that states you can withdraw 4% of you investments annually and never run out of money. This assumes an average 7% market return and has a buffer for inflation and fluctuations. 400k per year is about double of what my wife and I make, so it woild allow us to have a cushy lifestyle.
Even a million would be enough for me there. That would give me average yearly income of 70k. That would maintain my current level of living and I’d probably just keep getting wealthier still.
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