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stoy, in Which carbonated soft drink is the best?

That depends on the context.

Eating pizza, nothing can ever compete with a nice glass of Trocadero, it just feels right.

At cristmas? Coca Cola? Absolutely not! Give me Zeunerts Julmust every time!

Drinking soft drink with friends and watching a movie, give me an Indian Tonic with a lemon slice, lasts long and is very tasty.

Have some dark rum (I have plenty) and want a quick drink with a good mixer, Fanta used to be great, but they have added sweeteners in addition to sugar, so they taste like crap now, so I tend to look for som itallian orange soda, it is works well.

Eating a bruger, Coca Cola is still great!

Having a quiet evening by the computer? Just stick to mineral water.

serpineslair,

A different drink for every occasion, I like it haha.

supernicepojo,

I would drink Julmust in summer if it wasnt such a social faux pas.

gregorum,

My favorite with a slice is Mandarin Jarritos. Sometimes Lima. Stewart’s Orange Creame soda is also pretty great.

I’m also a big fan of ice-cold Sprite.

stoy,

I am expecting Sprite to get the sweetener treatment as well, but for now it makes a great drink to mix it with some local distilled raspberry liquor I have, tastes like Sprite, but with a really nice aftertaste of Raspberries

A_Random_Idiot, in A time traveller comes back from 50 years in the future. You have 3 hours with them. What do you do?

Ask if they come from a utopia world, a shittier version of this world, or a post apocalypse world.

if its anything but a utopia world, ask who we have to get rid of to push us towards the utopia world.

Schlomocucumber,
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if when its anything but a utopia world, ask who we have to get rid of to push us towards the utopia world.

yesman, in Are Americans more prone to conspiracy theories than people in other countries?

I wouldn’t say individuals are more susceptible to it, but the US’s history is intertwined with conspiracy theories from the start. The founding “father” Sam Adams had tracts printed claiming the British had a secret plan to enslave white colonists ahead of the American war of independence.

The Spanish American war was stoked by a conspiracy that Spain had sabotaged our warship “Maine”. If you’ve ever wondered why the US Navy has a base in Cuba.

The “corrupt bargain” of 1824 was a supposed deal between JQ Adams and Clay to exclude Jackson from the presidency despite his electoral victory. Jackson too, was the subject of a theory that he and congressmen disgruntled over tariffs would dissolve the union and install Jackson as a military dictator should he loose in 1828.

Chriswild,

People believe there is a magic sky dad who loves you so much they send you to suffer for eternity with the original naughty child who apparently wants to punish you for doing what they want.

Religions generally make conspiracy theories seem rational.

morgunkorn, in A time traveller comes back from 50 years in the future. You have 3 hours with them. What do you do?
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Try to get pregnant with them to create a time paradox

WhereGrapesMayRule,

Unfortunately everyone is obsessed with anal 50 years from now so it doesn’t go your way.

SkaveRat,

dm;hs

morgunkorn,
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Ah, well I’ll try anyway :-)

WhereGrapesMayRule,

Starts building time machine

Schlomocucumber,
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so it doesn’t go your way.<

You sure?

Rhynoplaz, in Which carbonated soft drink is the best?

There’s so many cliches, but despite them all, Mountain Dew. Not because it makes me feel Xtreme while I’m playing Call of Duty and eating Doritos on my skateboard, it’s just a much better flavor.

Tarquinn2049, (edited )

I miss Canadian mountain dew. It was just the pop, no caffeine. Turns out caffeine doesn’t taste very good. I mean you would assume that, but it really hit home when the pop I loved all of a sudden added it. Wish they continued to offer a caffeine free version. But I know in the states the caffeine is like their whole marketing thing.

Anticorp, in A time traveller comes back from 50 years in the future. You have 3 hours with them. What do you do?
  1. Kill the time traveler
  2. Acquire his time machine
  3. Whatever I want
ilinamorato,

Kill? No no no no.

“Hey, time traveler. Do you live in a sucky future?”

  • “No, not really sucky.” “Ok then, if you go back to your time and send the machine back to me, I will put my entire fortune into a single bank account with your name on it, in any country and bank in the entire world you think is best. I will then take a few brief trips of my own and send the machine back to you. Deal?”
  • “Yes, future is the most sucky.” “Would you prefer to stay here, then, and be a god among men, while I take a joyride?”
jabathekek, in Are Americans more prone to conspiracy theories than people in other countries?
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I would say people in countries with poor or non-existent public education are more prone. The USA’s public education system was eviscerated in the 70’s I think.

TropicalDingdong,

I would say people in countries with poor or non-existent public education are more prone. The USA’s public education system was eviscerated in the 70’s I think.

As early as the 60s, but really the 80s. Through the 70s US had some of the best public education on the planet. The move to privatize education started in earnest under Reagan (in California, as governor), and then further under Reagan (and every president and congress to now).

Specifically:

• calling for an end to free tuition for state college and university students

• annually demanding 20 percent across-the-board cuts in higher education funding

• repeatedly slashing construction funds for state campuses

• engineering the firing of Clark Kerr, the highly respected president of the University of California

• declaring that the state “should not subsidize intellectual curiosity”

files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ684842.pdf

tdawg,

How the fuck do you come to the conclusion that you’re spending too much money on education

ShittyBeatlesFCPres,

With Reagan, it was because Republicans at the time thought there would be too many educated poor people. One of his advisors (Roger Freeman) said:

“We are in danger of producing an educated proletariat…That’s dynamite! We have to be selective on who we allow [to go to college]…If not, we will have a large number of highly trained and unemployed people.”

He was basically worried about a revolution because of it.

Source: theintercept.com/…/student-loans-debt-reagan/

There’s other sources if you don’t like the Intercept.

satanmat,

Easy

They are talking at the dinner table about doing things that are against my self interest. I don’t want those damn kids learning that. Therefore cut education

Rather that you know the market place of ideas that I espouse; as long as they match what I believe.

pearsaltchocolatebar,

Just look at the GOP. They repeat garbage until their pawns believe it.

ReallyActuallyFrankenstein,

Well, you see, it was educate 10,000 people or build another fighter jet.

homesweethomeMrL,

R E A G A N.

The Trump era began by ripping out the solar panels on the White House and tricking blue collars into voting against themselves.

It was, and is, fucking awful.

captainlezbian,

That last one hits hard. The state must subsidize intellectual curiosity. Intellectual curiosity gave us everything from electricity to modern governmental theory to the mathematics that would later turn out to allow wireless communications. Curiosity without a point is extremely valuable.

And it should be noted that even in late medieval Europe the state funded intellectual curiosity. The nobility were the state and many either were curious themselves or would patronize intellectuals

anarchy79,
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And people look at that and say, sure, I’ll vote for this guy.

It’s a self perpetuating spiral to hell.

watson387,
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By design. It’s a lot easier to fleece stupid people.

SpicyAnt, in Are Americans more prone to conspiracy theories than people in other countries?
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I think that the distrust of governments and generally those in power is a world-wide phenomenon. But I personally don’t think that it is unwarranted. Corruption, abuses of power, and conspiracies are widespread.

anarchy79,
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Now explain why the conspiracy theorists always side with fascist rulership.

SpicyAnt,
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What do you mean? Can you describe what you mean with ‘fascist rulership’? Then maybe I can try.

For example… people in Mexico many people suspect that politicians have associations with drug dealers, and many believe believe that particular bureaucratic systems (such as handing out public infrastructure projects) are exploited to distribute funds in ways that benefit those in power and their friends, these people I would classify as “conspiracy theorists”, and in many cases they have been correct. You think that these people will always side with fascist rulership?

anarchy79,
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Fascist as in the US actively supporting and financing terrorism in countries it wants control over, historically. Like the Contras, that type of fascism.

And I think that being suspicious has been co-opted by the right wing, yes.

SpicyAnt,
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Fascist as in the US actively supporting and financing terrorism in countries it wants control over, historically.

Isn’t this a conspiracy theory? I think that the official position of the US is that they are not financing terrorists, and many of their military actions have been performed to defend citizens from their ruler’s human rights violations. Isn’t the Cuban embargo officially there to protect the Cubans against human rights violations? I think that arguing otherwise makes one a conspiracy theorist.

I am not saying this to argue, I am trying to explain what I understand with conspiracy theory - someone who is skeptical about the official narrative, and believes that those in power will not always be transparent and honest to the public.

And I think that being suspicious has been co-opted by the right wing, yes.

I am aware of the “drain the swamp” rhetoric, that there was a QAnon, anti-vax, and other more fringe theories. But I think that this is a sub-set of conspiracy theorizing that is amplified by the media. Many conspiracy theorists are investigative journalists and critics of governments. And many conspiracy theories have ended up being true. I don’t think that critical thought and skepticism is an exercise that only right-wingers should participate in.

anarchy79, (edited )
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  1. Literally Sandinistas and Contras. Literally one of the world’s most egregious and “oh shit we got caught” moments in US history. Iran-Contras affair doesn’t ring a bell, does it? Why don’t you start there for both our sakes.
  2. Home grown conspiracy theorists are basically all fascist, yes. That whole segment of knowledge, if you can call it that, was astropaved by the right wing decades ago. Let’s put it this way, Alex Jones isn’t voting left. There is always a big bad wolf that you can’t see, and the only cure is voting right.
SpicyAnt,
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  1. It rings a bell but I am not familiar with the details, I will look into it but I can’t address it right away. I am well aware that the US is an imperialist nation that has committed and continues to commit horrible acts all over the world. But the point is that this is not the official narrative of the US government. They may give some concessions about what occurred in the past, but the official narrative about what is happening now is always that they and their friends are the good guys.
  2. I am not from the US and the question is about conspiracy theories in other countries. If the question means whether Americans are more prone to believe US-conspiracy theories, then yes, simply because they are much more likely to be aware of them. Many people in other countries don’t consume as much media in English and might have no idea who Jeffrey Epstein was. So they probably have no opinion on whether there was foul play on his dead. But I think that if you talk to someone in Mexico and tell them the story of Epstein, most will agree that there was foul play involved. I am telling you this from my personal experience, at least within my circle but I think it expands more generally. We have a general distrust of the government and law enforcement, and so a story in which foul play is involved to silence someone else resonates. It happens all the time! Journalists are being killed all the time around here to silence them, and very often they are being critical of people in power… Is it really that unwarranted to be suspicious?
anarchy79,
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Those are fair points- I’m not native US either, just to make clear, and I understand what you’re saying. It’s kind of like, better safe than sorry? There is an evolutionary advantage in beings suspicious, in fact some say that the act of lying and lie detection in humans had a significant impact in forming our ability to communicate through language, so it’s a big deal, sure. We don’t want to get hustled, know what I mean?

The issues arise later, when all our needs are met and we’re fed and cozy, and still our minds try to evolve and suspect everything around us because- better safe than sorry, right?

JusticeForPorygon, in Are Americans more prone to conspiracy theories than people in other countries?
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IDK if it’s that or just the fact that there’s both a lot of us and a great sense of nationalism instilled in us from a very young age. I’ve been to Mt. Rushmore twice. Only recently did I learn about how it was a sacred site to the native people that we promised to leave alone, before stealing it and blowing it to hell.

What I’m getting at is that we’re taught that America is the greatest nation on the planet, and we’re encouraged to be loud about that statement. So when a certain group of people in the government who are also very loud about their beliefs start saying some things that might sound completely bonkers to a foreigner, a lot of people find themselves agreeing purely because they like the attitude of the people talking.

kent_eh,

Visiting Rushmore as a non-American is even weirder than you imagine.

The levels of over the top blatantly performative “patriotism” is quite bizarre to be surrounded by.

And the suspicious looks we got for not participating enthusiastically was discomforting (no, I’m not going to recite a pledge of allegiance to your country. Why would you expect me to?)

captainlezbian,

Yeah sorry about that. They’re similarly awful to live near.

And the reality is Mt Rushmore is mostly going to be visited by people like that and foreigners. Mt Rushmore is one of the principal sacred sites of the American civil religion. Treat them like religious pilgrims because they kinda were, but they don’t even realize it. The pledge of allegiance is a prayer to adherents.

anarchy79,
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You think brainwashing may have something to do with it?

JusticeForPorygon,
@JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah that’s essentially what I wanted to describe.

anarchy79,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

I agree. Definitely brainwashing.

delitomatoes, in Are Americans more prone to conspiracy theories than people in other countries?

Conspiracy theory, why can’t Americans differentiate loose and lose?

Mr_Blott,

It’s they’re poor education system that they have their. There need for an /s when their reading sarcasm shows they’re lack of comprehension

OlPatchy2Eyes,

Their

Mr_Blott,

Yay!

Silentiea,

Its

CoggyMcFee,

Because:

  1. The words “lose” and “loose” have the same vowel sound (and for some reason the extra “o” changes /z/ to /s/).
  2. There are no other words ending in -ose that have the /u/ sound
  3. Many words ending in -oose exist that have an /u/ sound, including the very common word, “choose”, which has the same /uz/ sound that “lose” has at the end

I never get these spellings mixed up but I can absolutely understand why someone would.

key, (edited ) in Are Americans more prone to conspiracy theories than people in other countries?
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Studies have found ( for example ) conspiracy thinking correlates with extremist political beliefs, especially right wing political beliefs, across countries. That linked study found the effect was strengthened by lack of political control.

So countries with more political extremists, especially far right wing in media platforms, leads to more popular conspiracy theories.

jeffw,
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We conclude that conspiracy mentality is associated with extreme left- and especially extreme right-wing beliefs, and that this non-linear relation may be strengthened by, but is not reducible to, deprivation of political control.

anarchy79,
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That is the finest example of begging the question I have seen in years! It’s really rare to see in the wild.

deadbeef79000,

Oooh, could you expand on that? I’ve always had a tough time identifying begging the question and a real example would help.

anarchy79,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

You are MOST welcome, it took me ages to make it click, this is the best example I have found:

  • How come the iPhone so popular?
  • Because it’s the hottest thing on the market right now.
deadbeef79000,

Ha! I’d discarded that as just a tautology and went looking for something else.

TYVM.

anarchy79,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

YAMBB

you and me both bro

intensely_human, in Are Americans more prone to conspiracy theories than people in other countries?

Yes we are! It’s a result of all the subliminal messaging we receive from our kitchen appliances.

dingus,

Yvan eht nioj

Silentiea,

Nice try, refrigerator.

FlyingSquid,
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That’s why you cook everything on a wood fire in the middle of your kitchen.

Make sure you punch a hole in the roof for the smoke!

HowlsSophie, in Which carbonated soft drink is the best?

Rarely drink anything sugary but Jarritos in various flavors. Cranberry Sierra Mist is also good.

ook_the_librarian,
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I mostly drink water/seltzer, but I love grapefruit Jarritos.

cloudless, in Which carbonated soft drink is the best?
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Calpis Soda

SayJess, in Which carbonated soft drink is the best?
@SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Sprite does it for me.

gregorum,

Sprite is pretty amazing.

Adulated_Aspersion,

Try starry. More lime flavor ftw.

KingJalopy,
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Starry is so much better

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