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charliespider, in If another species on Earth began to develop civilization, how would you like to see them approached?

I’m assuming this is about the British? If that’s the case then I say a hands off approach because it would be interesting to see if they develop any culinary skills. Who knows, maybe if their society evolves enough, they might even be capable of participating in economic trade with others. Stranger things have happened.

ALostInquirer,

No…Not the British. More early human evolution where we saw homo sapiens existing alongside homo neanderthalensis, and wondering if that were to happen again (albeit possibly with a less related and more distinct species), how we might do things differently.

otter, (edited ) in If another species on Earth began to develop civilization, how would you like to see them approached?

I feel like avoiding them or waiting might end up with a situation where some group of humans causes irreversible harm because they think they know better.

Once enough deliberation has been done and we’re ready to act in good faith, we should probably make contact and set a good precedent quickly. Maybe then we can guide future interactions in a more positive way?

Pons_Aelius, (edited ) in If another species on Earth began to develop civilization, how would you like to see them approached?

I seriously doubt it would be possible with humans still in the picture due to our impact on the biosphere and resource use.

No matter what high minded principles we might espouse, human history shows that we fuck up less tech advanced cultures, even when we think we are trying to help.

Case in point North Sentinel Island.

TLDR: Hunter gatherer society that the world has decided to leave alone as they do not want contact but some fuckhead US christian decided he knew better, attempted contact to tell them about God or whatever and got himself killed. While possibly infecting them with something they have no immunity for.

ALostInquirer,

Suppose it was somehow possible though, beyond simply not intentionally/unintentionally fucking them up, what would you like to see?

Pons_Aelius,

Leave them the fuck alone.

kalkulat, in Is society becoming more fake ?
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I think it’s becoming more see-thru. More fake … what’s an example of a non-fake society?

setsneedtofeed, in How do I change my layout back to white background?
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Profile > Settings>Theme. Pick one of the light ones.

ZK686,

Dope! Thanks!

user224,
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Unrelated, but I just noticed that Lemmy 0.19 already allows exporting your settings and choosing to open links in new tab. Cool.

AlmightySnoo, in How do you work full-time and stay awake all shift?
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Have you had success with “desk” jobs sitting all day

The trick is to not sit all day at your desk. Go for a coffee break and have a short walk outside every now and then. You can also use the Pomodoro technique to break down your work day into small chunks with frequent small breaks: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pomodoro_Technique

AFKBRBChocolate, in Do hiccups serve any actual useful biological function?

Probably echoing what others have said, but here’s an article with a salient section:

With all these disadvantages, and hardly any advantages to speak of, you might be wondering if hiccups serve a purpose at all. Well, some scientists have argued in the affirmative.

They point to the fact that even human fetuses hiccup, long before they’re born. In fact, the diaphragmatic spasms are more common in infants than in adults. It’s possible that this reflex helps prevent fetuses from breathing in amniotic fluid while still in the womb; likewise, it could prevent newborns from choking on milk while breastfeeding.

And still others have proposed that hiccuping in the womb trains a fetus’ respiratory muscles for all the breathing they will have to do after birth.

But humans aren’t the only animals that hiccup; pretty much any species that breathes exclusively air — including all mammals — can suffer the same fate. (Birds and reptiles, on the other hand, get a free pass.)

In fact, that’s the reasoning behind another theory, which posits that hiccups are merely an evolutionary “leftover” in mammals, dating all the way back to our fishy ancestors. When these species transitioned from gill-based breathing in the water to lung-based breathing on land, while still possessing both organs, a breathing system that allowed them to quickly close the glottis and direct water only to the gills was beneficial.

We see a similar process play out on a smaller scale when tadpoles grow up and transition into frog-hood. And that may not be a coincidence; believe it or not, the neural patterning that generates a hiccup in humans is almost identical to the neural patterning involved in respiration in amphibians.

over_clox,

Very interesting! 👍

Nemo,

When did we stop spelling it hiccough, though?

wandermind,

Hiccough is a mistaken newer spelling based on the association with coughing, hiccup is the original.

over_clox,

When did we ever start?

That sounds like a combo reflex if you ask me, which actually does happen to me around 20 minutes after I take a vitamin B12 pill. I’ll get like all the reflexes all at once, sneeze, hiccups, coughing, urge to vomit, all at once. All from a vitamin B12 pill. Never again!

intensely_human, in What's an amusing thing to say before going under general anesthesia?

“Who’s making toast?”

Bye, (edited ) in How do you work full-time and stay awake all shift?

OP I’m sorry all these bootlickers are telling you you’re sick or wrong or bad for not wanting to be awake for a needlessly long “full day” of work. I don’t have a sleep disorder but I can’t do it either. You know how I know I don’t have a sleep disorder? I don’t get sleepy on the weekends.

Anyways here’s how I’ve solved it. What I do is I show up at 10, take a 2-hour lunch break, then leave at 3. They don’t even know I’m gone.

Don’t let these assholes break your spirit, stay strong.

GutterPunch,

💪 💪 💪

intensely_human, in What aspects are important for non-centralized communities?

Cultural uniformity. There doesn’t need to be full overlap, but in the absence of a government the community needs certain beliefs and behaviors to be universal in order to remain a community.

intensely_human, in Can anyone else see this post?

I’m able to see it. I use the wefwef web client for lemmy.

intensely_human, in What's the name of the belief that gods/entities are quasi-semtient memes (the linguistic term, not the cultural term) in the same manner that corporations and governments are considered people?

GPT-4 is calling it “tulpamancy” with the etymology of that word coming from tibetan buddhism where tulpas are spirits created with the mind.

Modern western adaptations of the philosophy drop the notion of magic or supernatural behavior and just consider them to be personalities which exist in a person’s mind, and for gods to be those personalities replicated across many mind.

Mango, in Is society becoming more fake ?

Any time people have to deal with each other when they’re rather not, people are fake. That’s basically all the time.

RozhkiNozhki, in Do hiccups serve any actual useful biological function?
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There was an explanation for it in The Inner Fish book. I’m fuzzy about the details, it’s been a while since I read this but essentially it is to prevent drowning when critters switch from gills to lungs like tadpoles.

intensely_human, in Is society becoming more fake ?

My favorite psychology professor likes to discuss the relationship between the level of fakeness in a society and the rise of totalitarianism in that same society. He says that when everybody lies more on a regular basis, even about small things, it lets bad things start to happen. And as the bad things start to happen, these people who lie about little things all the time can easily dupe themselves about the fact the bad things are happening, because they’ve gotten used to investing their mental energy into fake narratives.

Basically each problem gives a person the opportunity to tell the truth about the problem, which usually results in them having to do something about it to assuage their own conscience, or to lie about the problem, which makes space for them to act as if the problem isn’t there. It’s less scary and takes less work to lie, so we do it when we don’t feel like taking on the responsibility of the problem.

Then it becomes a cultural habit — something we do because we see others doing it and we’d rather not be the weird outlier — to lie about small things instead of facing them.

If this cultura of lying expands, it starts to encompass bigger and bigger things.

For example, instead of lying about whether your stepmother’s garlic bread tastes good, now you’re lying about whether you think it’s a good idea for your coworker to be having a third beer at lunch. “Go for it!” you say in a slightly sarcastic tone, telling yourself the sarcastic tone is sufficient feedback to fulfill your duty in this scenario. After all, he’s only a coworker, you tell yourself, actively ignoring the other night when you told him you were his friend.

Now you’re lying to your coworker and lying to yourself about whether you’re lying to your coworker. The lying has expanded.

In any given society, a certain amount of lying is expected. As an autistic, I’ve had a hard time dealing with the fact that the optimal amount of lying might not be zero. But even if it’s not zero, it is very small. And if a society’s culture gets too unbalanced, away from facing things as they come up and toward lying to ignore them instead, then the society starts to degrade.

Then everyone’s perception of the society, as in the sum total of all their experiences interacting with others including those potential interactions they haven’t had yet, starts to skew in terms of the expectation that others will lie to them. Interactions become less valuable, because any given interaction could change out from under you. You can’t trust your neighbor when they say they’ll keep an eye on your yard. You can’t trust your boss when she says you can come to her with anything. You can’t trust your friends to give you honest feedback when you ask for it.

And that state of trust just makes it more tempting to lie. Why be vulnerable with the truth when the people around you are liars? Why trust your own sense that something is wrong if you, yourself, lie all the time?

And this particular psych prof says that the extreme end of that process, of the lies getting bigger and more frequent, in a network effect across a whole society, is genocide and other atrocity.

The lies cause people to check out and when people check out to a sufficient degree they can ignore a genocide, and when people can ignore a genocide, tell themselves there’s nothing they can do to stop it, is when genocide happens.

Sort of like how the human body is always being invaded by pathogens, all day every day. It’s only when the immune system fails to kill those pathogens immediately that an infection occurs.

In the same way, the genocidal impulse is always there, coming out of the darkest and nastiest parts of the human soul. But people’s ability to pay attention, convey and receive accurate information, and fix problems as they see them (which is a result of seeing them clearly enough to be moved to action by them), acts to weed out that impulse continually.

A culture of lying is like a breakdown of the signals used in the immune system. If the T-cells can’t recognize invaders they can’t eat them. A culture of truth-telling puts people into contact with what’s going on, in a way they can’t ignore. And that same culture of truth-telling makes people respect humanity and their own society, making it feel more worth defending from intentional evil, and from unconscious mistake-making and general breakdown.

Pepsi,
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the genocidal impulse is always there

exqueeze me? baking powder?

intensely_human,

It’s in you too, Pepsi, like the bubbles that trail up out of your depths. It’s only by keeping a meaningful life going that you prevent yourself from turning rotten and manifesting the evil that is inside you.

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