Well, robot means (originally meant?) something a bit different in Czech. As I understand it, robots were basically indentured servants/ slaves. It means something like āone who doesnāt think.ā At least that is if all the Isaac Asimov videos Iāve watched are correct.
It seems like human civilizations are having trouble coexisting, so I donāt see how we could, with an other species, unless it was profitable for us in one way or another.(sadly)
Let only certain people interact with them who agree to not drag their culture into matters. Some might say dolphins are a living proto-example of this. Some interaction can be good, but then thereās hypercultural exchanges we have with them. And then there will be interspecies scars that will resonate forever. Handle them similar to Antarctica.
In practical terms, they would have to live either underwater or underground for the real estate. Underwater, it would either be some variety of octopus, which we would make an enemy of almost immediately, or a cetacean, which would be poached to extinction within a few years. Leave the octopus alone, approach the mammal and advise them to swim the fuck away. Quickly. Iām not sure what might be stewing underground and Iām not sure Iād want to know.
Unfortunately they wonāt eat the billionaires. Even with all the possible āattacksā they may be playing, or they may be attacking the ships, but Orca eat literally anything that comes into their water, except us.
Theyāll attack in captivity, but thatās solitary confinement in a bathroom, not even an efficiency apartment just a bathroom for their size. Would we be surprised that a human that was tortured for years in solitary confinement might just act a bit outside the normal behavior parameters for a human? No, we would not.
The only attacks in the wild on record, unless something happened extremely recently, have, historically, been because the human in question was inciting an attack with physical violence. The last one was in the late 1800s and the less said about that human, the better. He got bitten on his right arm, (the one that was wielding the harpoon,) but as soon as the Orca tasted what it had bitten, it didnāt take his arm, meaning it didnāt complete the bite. It barely bit him, tasted human, and literally spat him out. This threw the guy a few feet away. He had some gnarly scars, but he even kept full use of his arm.
This ā: from a species that will absolutely massacre any Polar Bear that dares to venture into their waters.
We donāt know what we did. We do know that Orcas and their current evolution has existed for a few million years. We know that we have existed for somewhere between 250,000 to 300,000 years. We know that dogs have been with us for the last 200,000 years. We now know that Orca, and all other cetaceans evolved from the same species of āprimitive dogā that decided that land just wasnāt where it āwas atā (where it wanted to be) around 5 million years ago.
Given all of that, and the fact that we probably evolved from Chimps, the most vicious and vindictive of the great apes, except us, I have a theory. Sometime around 250,000 to 300,000 years ago a single Orca captured and killed one of us. The human involved was probably either a child or an elder. The orca thought that they were easy prey. Once they decided it was safe to share their kill with the rest of the pod, the humans came back with their entire tribe and massacred as many Orca as they could.
This event scared the Orca so much that they told all the other pods not to even nibble on the hairless apes. They used to hunt for us until we stopped giving them the reward, (the guts and entrails of other species of whales they would herd for us to hunt) and then they just started avoiding us.
Iām not sure that polar bear does taste good. At least not for us. The global orca diet is not the individual orca diet. For instance if an injured seal is swimming near orcas that have a diet of salmon, jellyfish, and plankton, then even though other orcas eat them, that seal is, probably, safe.
Iām explaining this badly. Basically all the Orca worldwide will eat everything, but a single pod of orca have set diets that they go after almost exclusively. Apparently some of the polar pods have decided that polar bears are worth the trouble, which isnāt surprising. The average Orca is about 2-3 times the size of a polar bear. They can bite them almost in half, if they needed to.
Itās not so much that anything tastes āgoodā as far as I can tell, so much as their pod has eaten āthis plentiful foodā in āthis particular area where we liveā for thousands, if not millions, of years. Itās what they are used to, and what their guts expect more than anything.
As far as I can tell, any Orca can eat anything, just like us. If that food wasnāt what theyāre used to eating it will give them digestive issues such as gas or heartburn, just like us.
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(Warning, this is probably fanfic. It is not intended as commentary on any particular human political situation, including colonialism, capitalism, communism, North Korea, Israel/Palestine, Native Americans, slavery, civil rights, libertarianism, or Trump. Really, I promise.)
They start out as parasites on our civilization; but they desire independence. Their philosophers believe (unbeknownst to us) that āto live without stealingā would be a desirable accomplishment for their people. They have ideas of both community and property; they have individuality and compassion. They argue with one another over their relationship to humans.
If we knew what was going on with them, we might have the chance to do something ethically competent towards them. But if a situation like this arises, we might not even notice it before exterminating it. Humanity has so much power over our world today that we might not even notice.
One initial problem is that weāve been in the habit of fighting rats for millennia. They eat and shit in our food; they dig holes in our walls; we set cats and dogs and traps and poison on them. Thatās how itās been for a long time.
Another problem is that they know our language, but we donāt know theirs. Their ancestors were taught human language as a scientific experiment; after they escaped, they taught their children to read our language, so they could use our gadgets and protect themselves from our traps ā and learn math and science and philosophy from our books.
But the human scientists never learned how to speak Rat. When the uplifted rats escaped, from the scientistsā point of view, the experiment was a serious failure ā even contaminating wild rat populations with the modified and trained NIMH rats. The research team tried to contain the failure, then disbanded and went different ways; the idea āthere are now rats in the wild capable of human-level civilizationā didnāt even make the scientific journals, much less the media or policy circles.
In order to come up with an ethically competent response to this situation, we have to first recognize that itās even happening. The rats dragging our electrical lights and books into their nest are doing so not just for nesting but because they want to read; the descendants of city rats are building complex colonies in our national parks because they want to become less dependent on humans.
But who notices new rat behavior first? People with rat-infested houses. Organic farmers who donāt use rat poison, whose cats are suddenly getting killed in farm equipment way more often than they used to. Exterminators. Health inspectors.
Weāre more likely to notice the rats that donāt follow Nicodemus (who argued that rats must become independent of humans) than the ones who do. Weād first notice the clever and malicious ones; the ones who mutilate cats, evade traps, invade kitchens, and piss on our books and computers as if they were saying āwe really fucking hate you.ā
Or youāre a park ranger. The folks in town tell you the rats are being weird. Some wire and tools and books go missing ā¦ and months later some tripping campers come off the trail and tell you they saw a rat city in the deep woods.
After the fourth set of tripping campers talking about how the crazy city rats went and built their own city in the middle of a national park, you go up there to see it.
Lol, for real though, if deliciousness determined the fate of species, weād live in a wild world. Imagine sophisticated tuna cities getting raided for sushi. Thank goodness we donāt snack on concrete, or weād all be living in tents. Weāre basically the galaxyās weirdos who eat anything that doesnāt eat us first. š
Depends on the size of the species. If they are smaller than the average human, most definitely approach them onto a grill and eat them. If they are larger, that approach is still viable, but their size may be difficult if they are similar in scale to mammoths but have opposable thumbs.
Alternatively, it may be insightful to consider the precedents for this. Leprechauns have lived in civilized secrecy for thousands of years, and gnomes have been documented performing organized crime or acts of violence. Regardless of whether humans are related to either, they would be a distinct species from homo sapiens. It may be the case that for any species on Earth that develops civilization, it ensures approach doesnāt happen.
Why decide already to eat them? Grill them, sure, if theyāre a threat, but what if theyāre poisonous or just smell/taste like vomit after a night of slamming beers?
And let them organize their civilized society enough to the point where they arrange to cook and eat me, explaining to me as I am grilled on the barbie that human rights arenāt real because the only species with established civilized rights is theirs? Eat first and ask questions later
As in misinformation and decimation of fictitious information yes social media has given everyone a megaphone. Itās also easier to find people who have similar conspiratorial views and spiral down into believing and contributing to fake news etc. and the general feeling that you can trust something to be real and not something yelled at you from a big megaphone.
As with individuals, Iām not sure where I read it first and I donāt feel like googling it now butā¦
Everyone has three selves: a public persona, a private persona and a personal persona.
Public is strait forward itās the face/mask/personality one has in public with strangers, acquaintances, and some work colleagues.
Private is your personality with very close friends and family. Things you would not do or say in public but would around your close circle.
Personal is the inner you that you share with no one. Your inner thoughts, your conscience, your inner voice and inner monologue.
This is generally by a spectrum that blend into one another and change over time rather than three separate buckets. As you get older and more aware of these different perspectives some people act more like they are buckets not a spectrum. These people seem much more fake especially if you ever see their public and private personas. You may have just seen this for the first time.
You touched on something that makes sense, but for me personally it takes more than just having different public vs private personas for a person to seem fake.
Many people naturally have a different demeanor or way of interacting in public than private, which doesnāt necessarily make them seem fake. What feels fake is when you can pick up on a deliberate or curated public persona, especially if itās being done deceptively or for some material gain.
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