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teamevil, in What's some amazing technology they have in Japan that's very normal to them but would blow our minds here in the US and western world?

Fax machines

spicytuna62, (edited )
@spicytuna62@lemmy.world avatar

Fax machines are still everywhere in the medical field.

Gormadt,
@Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I work in the freight industry, their pretty common here too

Though primarily for specific industries we ship too which includes the medical field

EinfachUnersetzlich,

In the USA perhaps, not in Europe.

leaky_shower_thought, in What's some amazing technology they have in Japan that's very normal to them but would blow our minds here in the US and western world?

mcdo with their cellphone cleaners

wrt US, I guess they shoot butts and not children?

also I heard Japan recycling laws are effective compared to US counterparts.

9715698,

I was in Toronto’s Union Station during civid and they also had UV phone disinfection machines. It was impressive.

themurphy,

People from the US will be surprised how far the rest of the western world, and high tech eastern Asia, are ahead of the states in terms of recycling and infrastructure.

vinylshrapnel, in Can't we just start calling it "Formerly Twitter" instead?

I pronounce it “not c” instead of x

BoastfulDaedra,

Come to think of it, “X” is awfully close, as a glyph, to a swastika.

ohlaph, in Can't we just start calling it "Formerly Twitter" instead?

What about just “Ten”?

murvillian, in What's some amazing technology they have in Japan that's very normal to them but would blow our minds here in the US and western world?

One that I haven’t seen mentioned ever was neat flashlights in every hotel room I stayed in. They were all mounted to the wall, and had no power switch. The wall mount had a tab sticking out that separated the batteries, so when you went to use it, the batteries touch and make the circuit. They were always low power, so that you didn’t disturb others in the room, and you have to keep it in its location to turn it back off. They worked well for going to the bathroom at night and not messing up night vision too. I tried finding one in the US, to no avail, but they’re all over in Japanese 100 yen stores. A clever, cheap design.

Jode,

Isn’t that there to use if an earthquake knocks the power out?

Suburbanl3g3nd,
murvillian,

Similar in that it’s mounted, different in that it has no buttons/switches and wouldn’t be on, or even able to be on when mounted. Those look pretty cool though.

chiu, in What's some amazing technology they have in Japan that's very normal to them but would blow our minds here in the US and western world?

Automatic opening doors but they don’t open by a proximity sensor, they open when you press the button. This is the optimal solution as the door doesn’t open needlessly but still allows for ease of access.

Ordering machines, where all your menu options are clearly listed and priced. Pressing on a combo of buttons will print a receipt which you can sit down and show the staff/cook your order.

Water (hot and cold) tapped straight to your dining table for self serve drinks.

Unfortunately becoming less applicable with the smartphone domination finally reaching Japan, but their flip phone technology.

_number8_, (edited )

taco bell in particular is embracing the kiosks and it’s wonderful. they have signs in the lobby saying ‘order at the kiosk’ even. and why wouldn’t you? why do people in the US have this pig-like stubbornness where they must have a human stand there and ‘PeRsONaLIze tHE iNtERacTion’ or some shit

xor,

i just want to pay cash, otherwise i prefer kiosks… but i see a future of hostile, nagging UI design…
like at some stores self checkout, you have to click 80 different confirmations and give your phone number, email and social security number…

themurphy,

That’s why you have GDPR.

chiu,

The auto kiosks in Japan take cash and they are also mechanical and not touch-screen based (at least in most stores). They are tactile buttons. :D

KazuyaDarklight,
@KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world avatar

Every US McDonald’s I’ve been to for the last…5+ years has had the kiosk system.

Nightwind,

Because I don’t want to be bombarded with ads and “did you consider this offer” shit and take 5 minutes to use some usability nightmare? Because I do not want to touch a greasy screen that 362 people used today without washing their hands after taking a shit? Because I do not support corpo greed that will not rest until every employee has been fired?

“BUt I LiKe tOucHy fLaSHy SCreeNy!!”

What are you, morons?

glarf,

Why should I have to do everything myself when I’m at a commercial establishment? Why is interaction with a human a bad thing? I absolutely hate self checkout for the same reasons. Quality of service is valuable and humans benefit from interaction.

Tippon,

There was an article published last year, maybe the year before, where they tested the touch screen kiosks in McDonald’s. Every single one of them has traces of faeces on it.

Even if that wasn’t true, it takes me significantly less time to tell someone my order than to scroll through however many sub menus the restaurant has decided to put their food into, and then select the options for each item and add it to my basket, then check out.

shani66, (edited )

I didn’t even consider that, America is just filled with ‘people’ who barely even qualify as such. it’s no wonder we can’t have nice things.

macrocephalic,

Everything has traces of faeces on it, this fixation on it seems irrational when you put it into context. The burger meat comes from a dead animal that spent it’s life wandering in a field and trampling it’s own shit. The fries come from the root of a plant grown in the dirt. The bun is made from wheat which was probably infested with mice. You yourself are a biological machine that turns food into energy and discards the waste. Your body has a tube filled with faeces right now.

Yes, we try to keep waste separate from food, but the world is not a clean-room.

Tippon,

All of those things are cleaned before being consumed. The touch screen menus are one of the last things you touch before touching and eating your food.

The world may not be a clean room, but that doesn’t mean that I’m going to deliberately interact with someone else’s faeces, especially when I’m about to eat.

thecrotch,

Hope you’re not touching cash

Tippon,

Strangely enough, you’ve made me realise that I haven’t for a while. Not a deliberate thing, it’s just that everything I’ve bought in person recently has been with a contactless method.

TAG,
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Having to crawl through multiple menus to order is not that big of a deal for restaurants. They don’t value your time, they value their staff time (because they have to pay for it). There is probably very little ongoing cost to double the number of order kiosks while every additional human taking orders needs to be paid minimum wage. The restaurant owner watches with hate as their money slowly melts away while you decide if you want pickles, fried onions, and jalapenos on your burger.

Tippon,

That’s a good point. I could be in the restaurant for an hour trying to order, and as long as there are other kiosks available, it wouldn’t make a difference to them.

frokie,

This is not a good point. This is just a company making us their unpaid employees.

Tippon,

Yes, that’s the point that TAG made. It’s something that I hadn’t considered, and it’s a good point.

The fact that it’s something shitty that businesses do doesn’t affect the fact that TAG made a good point.

MinorLaceration,

I often see buildings in Japan that have a manual sliding door followed by either a push button or proximity automatic door. If I am going to have to open one door myself, I might as well open both. If one is automatic, the other might as well be too.

Fallenwout,

The need to push a button everyone else pushed, is how you get covid :p

anon6789, (edited )
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I work in a pharma research facility, so people can have literally any disease or chemical on their hands, so we have a lot of doors with hand wave sensors.

Just wag your mitts in front of it, and the door opens. They’re on the wall a few steps before the door, so the door is usually open by the time you get to it.

Fallenwout, (edited )

I work in a hospital, we use these long vertical elbow buttons or rfid readers with a badge which is also touchless.

And if I need to push a button like in elevators, I use the knuckle of my ring finger.

Some even have this little touch tool on their Keychain to touch screens or buttons.

sanguinepar,
@sanguinepar@lemmy.world avatar

If you have to push a button, does it really count as an automatic door?

Katana314,

Since I don’t speak Japanese, it was definitely a much preferred setup that made things very simple for me when I visited.

chiu,

I guess you have a point. What I meant is that it’ll still slide open (like an automatic door does) but you push a button that has a similar feel to a door bell. So, still very accessible and automatic!

sanguinepar,
@sanguinepar@lemmy.world avatar

Oh yeah, I agree, just needless pedantry on my part :-)

Potatos_are_not_friends,
rob_t_firefly,
@rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world avatar

Water (hot and cold) tapped straight to your dining table for self serve drinks.

This in particular sounds awesome, speaking as a heavy water drinker who always feels like a bit of a heel having to pester busy wait staff to come over and refill my water glass a bunch of times.

otp,

I love places where you can just get it yourself. Rare here in North America, but all over the place in Korea

firipu,

The hot and cold water thing is not common at all. A few sushi places and bars have it. But it’s quite rare tbh.

DABDA,
@DABDA@lemmy.world avatar

Automatic opening doors but they don’t open by a proximity sensor, they open when you press the button.

I think it would be cool to have a hybrid system where you can wave/nod/bow to a sensor to activate it, but also implement an open standard frequency that can trigger it so people with reduced mobility can mount a transmitter on a wheelchair/cane etc. or just use their cellphone. Would eliminate having any external equipment that would be exposed to weather or vandalism and is one less common surface for the public to have to touch.

SuperSpruce, in Can't we just start calling it "Formerly Twitter" instead?

Whenever it occurs in spoken conversation, I call it X to highlight the absurdity of the rebranding. The other person either needs an explanation or a few seconds to figure out what I mean.

weeeeum, in What are your ear buds cleaning rituals?

It needs to be done carefully. If earwax has gotten onto the grill, it’s easy to squish it into the grill and your earbuds will sound extremely muddy and quiet. I usually try to prevent this by removing any visible wax collecting on the rubber ear bud. If it’s on the grill anyways, remove the rubber earbuds, add a drop of hydrogen peroxide onto the wax and let it sit for a minute. Afterwards use a toothbrush at an angle to “scrape” the wax off. This is to prevent mushing the earwax into the grill mentioned previously.

If the earbuds are muddy you can attempt to use a finer brush and scrub vigorously. It’s a little gross but you can blow on the grill to clear it sometimes. God forbid don’t suck.

_number8_, in What's some amazing technology they have in Japan that's very normal to them but would blow our minds here in the US and western world?

sorry this is gross:

i do not understand american’s aversion to the bidet. why would i want to wipe my ass with dry fucking paper rather than water? why why why. like it’s somehow ‘gross’ to use water. but scraping at wet shit with fucking tissue paper is hygienic and normal?

Mango,

Water coming from the nastiest thing in the building in contact with the part of my skin that’s got a low barrier to things passing through it? Get fucked.

otp,

I don’t understand why you’re so angry. Do you not get how bidets work?

Mango,

Angry? Don’t project. I’m grossed out.

deur,

Are you just fucking stupid? All water in the building comes from the same fucking place, the water in the toilet and the kitchen sink are the same until they fester.

There is nothing more hygenic than a bidet

Mango,

Yeah bruh, it’s fine until it’s at the toilet. Then it’s not fine. Get over yourself.

SPRUNT,

Do you… Do you think that the water in the bowl is what gets sprayed on your ass?

Mango,

Obviously not.

SendMePhotos,
woodenskewer,
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Is this like a mental locational thing? There is no way the unsanitary water from the toilet bowl can back feed into the water line. They are isolated mechanically via the tank float and by gravity because water can’t travel back up into the tank from the bowl. The bidet and toilet fill valve is piped into the same water line the hand sink is you use to rinse your mouth after brushing your teeth.

Texas_Hangover,

Motherfucker, you just shat out of your delicate asshole. Tap water ain’t gonna hurt it.

Mango,

I’m less worried about whatever diseases I may already have and more worried about those coming from others. You can have butthole splash time all you want. If you’re toilet is entirely private, maybe that’s even good. I’m not doing it.

Dark_Arc,
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I think it’s more… What other people did with the bidet hardware that might result in it spraying other things with said tap water.

dustyData, (edited )

You do know that toilets are like, the easiest to clean piece of furniture ever invented. Like the thing is designed to withstand being sprayed with chlorine on the regular. It’s literally a porcelain basin that has a built in water flushing system. If it’s your home’s private toilet, no one else but you will ever use it and you can make it as clean as you want it to before using it.

Even then, epidemiologically, in any given public bathroom, you’re several orders of magnitude more likely to catch an illness from the door handle than the toilet.

Dark_Arc, (edited )
@Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

See “the cons”. I’m lightly convinced for private residences… Public restrooms as awful as I’ve seen them, I don’t know about.

washingtonpost.com/…/bidet-hygiene-pros-cons/

dustyData, (edited )

[About the study that claims changes in vagina’s bacteria] The study would “have to be repeated” for researchers to draw any conclusions, Swartzberg says.

This could go either way, bottom line, we don’t know.

bidet nozzles were contaminated with infection-causing organisms such as Staphylococcus aureus and Enterococcus spp.

So does your fridge, but no one is advocating against using fridges to store food.

You need to regularly clean it.

Uhh? duh. Such a radical concept, hygiene, that’s surely too much for most people. You also have to regularly clean your whole bathroom. What’s the con?

It’s also important to pay attention to your bidet’s water pressure and temperature

The level to which some articles infantilize adults is the really scalding issue here. Top water temperature of a typical household heater should be no higher than 120 F (48° C), unless you do something seriously wrong, my guess is you’ll be fine.

dustyData,

Do you also avoid brushing your teeth on the bathroom? Because I have some news about poop particulate and toothbrushes for you.

Mango,

No, but I don’t keep my toothbrush in the bathroom for that reason.

badbrainstorm,

Fear of the Koch bros?!

0x4E4F, (edited )
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

It’s like having a second toilet seat. Takes more room.

Not from the US and live in a condo, so I’m speaking from a purely practical standpoint. My condo is not that big and having a bidet would mean that I have no place to put my washer and dryer at.

xor,

the bidet is an attachment to your toilet, not a separate thing

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Oh… well, it was a sparate thing back in the day, haven’t looked up new designs.

SendMePhotos,

Check out the new ones. They fit right between the toilet seat and the bowl lip. Super slim. Plus, always clean ass.

You know those poops you take when you wipe once and it’s already clean? It’s like that but ALL THE TIME.

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Damn… this does seem like the way to go.

I will most definitely look this up, seems like a real time and money saver 👍.

Enkers,

That’s not really traditionally true. Modern ones are integrated into the toilet seat, but they used to be a standalone fixture.

0x4E4F, (edited )
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yes, I was thinking about the old designs, haven’t brushed up on new designs.

Sure, in that case, I would consider it, why not.

xor,

they’re afraid they’ll enjoy it…

SendMePhotos,

I enjoy mine…

xor,

scary

egitalian,

Completely agree. I was raised with bidets/ water cleaning. TP That’s just a dry off or catch those last few drops

blazeknave,

American with bidet for 2.5 yrs. I hate shitting anywhere else now. Need a shower to get a new ass. Day is ruined.

SendMePhotos,

I think we got our bidets at the same time

blazeknave,

Woot deal?

Potatos_are_not_friends,

Same.

My ass is squeaky clean at home.

shalafi,

Installed one for my Filipina wife. Never used it myself. I have shit on that pot for months, still forget it’s there. Old habits die hard.

blazeknave,

Dude. Do it. Go. Right now. Don’t even need to drop heat. Just go freshen up.

nbafantest,

Yeah I gave it a go. Not a fan. Took a lot of drying and I’m not very messy.

Fal,
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Just use 2 squares of paper

Fuck_u_spez_,

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  • Empricorn,

    For the sake of your septic system, please don’t flush those! Not even the ones that lie and say they are “flushable”…

    lanolinoil,
    @lanolinoil@lemmy.world avatar

    OK guys – Think about this – What if you got shit on your hands or anywhere else on your body. Would you make this argument? Would you think that would be OK if someone told you they just wiped it off with a paper towel and went on about their day? no.

    thecrotch,

    I love how you’re being downvoted for having a personal opinion that harms no one but dares to go against the circlejerk.

    CancerMancer,

    Because dry wiping doesn’t actually clean your ass, it just picks up most of the shit and smears the rest into you.

    thecrotch, (edited )

    I understand why you like it. I don’t understand why the other person isn’t allowed to dislike it. Does it harm anyone if he “smears shit into the rest of him”?

    nbafantest,

    Yeah 2 of my close friends told me it was the greatest thing they’ve ever bought. I was very disappointed to say the least.

    NotMyOldRedditName,

    I got one with a dryer that makes that a lot better. It does take too long to fully dry it though, so it’s this middle ground of not too wet to dry off, and not waiting forever for the dryer.

    Fal,
    @Fal@yiffit.net avatar

    Do you not use any toilet paper? That’s gross. You need at least a tiny bit, it helps to dry too

    NotMyOldRedditName,

    Sorry my bad. Yes a little toilet paper. Much less because of the dryer.

    RavenFellBlade, (edited )
    @RavenFellBlade@lemmy.world avatar

    I own a BioBidet 2000. My friend Brian has one at his house and he convinced me to just try it. I did. And then I ordered one for myself before I left the bathroom.

    SendMePhotos,

    What makes it better than my luxe bidet that I got for $20

    RavenFellBlade,
    @RavenFellBlade@lemmy.world avatar

    I’ve never used your $20 Luxe bidet to know the difference, but I’m going to assume it doesn’t have a heated seat, heated water, variable pressure settings, massage settings, and an enema setting. If those features don’t interest you, then nothing at all makes it better. Use what you like. My wife just really loves the heated seat in the winter time.

    KuraiWolfGaming,

    You had me at heated seat. Fucker’s cold this time of year. Feel like I’m going to get my ass stuck to it.

    SoleInvictus, (edited )
    @SoleInvictus@lemmy.world avatar

    Tell Brian thank you. I just used his and ordered one too.

    Edit: I really did order one though, my current bidet needs an upgrade.

    banneryear1868,

    I don’t understand this either, toilets already require running water and have plenty of room to integrate bidet function. It’s not fancy tech or anything… in North America that’s sort of how they’re marketed though, with an emphasis on the settings, like its something you have to learn to use.

    thezeesystem,

    This is also gross. There’s a lot of men in the US that thinks touching there ass is gay so they never clean them.

    Mediocre_Bard,

    I have heard this so many times, but I absolutely refuse to believe that it is real.

    otp,

    It’s not a problem to touch there ass. It’s touching here ass that makes someone gay.

    Malfeasant,

    Where ass?

    otp,

    I don’t know! Wherever the there ass is that the other guy was talking about, I guess

    postmateDumbass,

    I’d argue anything past the first knuckle is on the spectrum.

    stringere,

    Why are we getting my ISP inolved in this imaginary ass play?

    postmateDumbass,

    $5/mo credit on your bill if you let them install a toilet cam.

    stringere,

    Is that $5 per knuckle?

    postmateDumbass,

    Its a sliding scale.

    stringere,

    Touché

    cosmicrookie, (edited )
    @cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

    So they don’t even jerk off?

    SendMePhotos,

    That’s gay

    GoosLife,

    N O-

    spittingimage,
    @spittingimage@lemmy.world avatar

    Surely that’s an urban legend, like truck nutz and decent beer.

    Silentiea,

    It is serious, and don’t call me Shirley.

    willis936,

    I used them while visiting Europe. They made my ass incredibly itchy. I’m good with the paper and washing my hands.

    chris,
    @chris@l.roofo.cc avatar

    How does water make your butt itchy?

    madcaesar,

    He was applying the water with a dildo 😞

    SplashJackson,

    Like someone at the bar whose seat is too far from the counter, he was trying to push his stool in

    Texas_Hangover,

    Ahh yes, deep cleaning.

    postmateDumbass,

    A very itchy dildo?

    dustyData, (edited )

    Uhhm, I’m not a doctor and this is not medical advice, but. You should talk to a proctologist about hemorrhoids or other blood circulation issues. Anuses are not supposed to itch when lightly sprayed with water, or ever for that matter, and that sensation might be a sign of tissue inflammation. Don’t ask me how I know this.

    willis936,

    This was many years ago. The itching didn’t happen immediately. Good advice to not take medical advice in social media comments.

    dustyData,

    The itching didn’t happen immediately

    That’s worse.

    kadotux,

    Somebody once said it to me like this: “If you faceplant into a pile of shit, would you rather wipe your face with a dry paper, or use water for cleaning”

    Snapz,

    I think you’re shitting wrong…

    Ataraxia,

    Bath tub. With soap. My SO washes his dick every time he pees and his ass every time he shits. After he wipes.

    CancerMancer,

    Ok that’s too far. You don’t need to get into the bath just because you pissed wtf.

    ARk,

    People don’t wash their ASS after they SHIT??

    winkerjadams,

    Sorry let me just wash my ass in the public sink when I gotta take a shit and I’m not home?

    Lightor,

    I think wet wipe would be best, and it’s my favorite option.

    otp,

    Can’t safely flush them though, no matter how “flushable” they claim to be

    spittingimage, (edited )
    @spittingimage@lemmy.world avatar

    Pretty much every thread we have in this community, someone comes along to say “you should pressure-wash your asshole”. I’m mildly bemused that this is what Lemmy obsesses over.

    afraid_of_zombies,

    I was in Asia and got pretty horrible food poisoning. My wife suggested we head over to this Japanese mall. Spent the day there. Use the toilet, walk around, buy something, use the toilet. That was the ideal toilet to have in that situation.

    Silentiea,

    It’s not just Lemmy, the sentiment is on Reddit and such as well.

    dustyData, (edited )

    I’ve always heard it explained like this (which I wholeheartedly agree with). Imagine you’re hiking a trail in the forest, and you trip on a rock and fall. By chance, you land on turd of excrement, luckily it only smears part of your arm and elbow with shit. Would you be fine just taking a piece of toilet paper and scraping it off? Or, would you feel compelled to wash it off with water, perhaps also soap?

    Why wouldn’t you just use paper, if you scrape hard enough it wouldn’t even smell and be just as clean, arguably?

    If you would at least use water, why do you extend to your elbow a courtesy that you don’t extend to your anus?

    The point is that there’s a lot of people who walk through life with a dirty asshole, but then try to act morally superior regarding personal hygiene, and I think that that’s not right.

    spittingimage,
    @spittingimage@lemmy.world avatar

    Dude, you think I haven’t heard that explanation before? Did you forget where we are?

    zSpider,
    ferralcat,

    Cultures who use bidets and not the bum gun will always confuse me. Ones a robot strapped to the toilet that does a medicore job at one thing, then other is a cheap water gun you can use for all sorts of shit (pun intended).

    TheSanSabaSongbird,

    They’ve become increasingly common in recent years. I don’t think there’s as much of an aversion as you appear to imagine.

    besmtt, in Can't we just start calling it "Formerly Twitter" instead?

    Just use the URL: twitter.com

    Pratai, in Can't we just start calling it "Formerly Twitter" instead?

    We should stop calling it.

    littlecolt, in Can't we just start calling it "Formerly Twitter" instead?

    I listen to NPR regularly and their people seem to like saying “Twitter, which is now known as X.” I dunno why though. I guess if someone doesn’t know?

    caturra, in What's some amazing technology they have in Japan that's very normal to them but would blow our minds here in the US and western world?

    I’m amazed how people in Japan have some small squares instead of genitals, that must be advanced technology I haven’t seen in other countries.

    Extrasvhx9he, (edited ) in Is there a way to get call functionality in whatsapp in Linux

    Maybe emulation? I never done it so no clue if it’ll work

    Edit: yeah can’t really think of anything else that’s isn’t using a dedicated device like a phone for just video/audio calls or changing to different messenger. Hopefully somebody else has an idea

    kionite231,

    yeah, I guess I have to do it inside a windows VM. I was wondering if there is another way since my laptop is not very high end.

    blazeknave, in How was Rudy Guiliani as mayor of NYC?

    Piece of shit fascist. Fucking barricades on sidewalks. Anti everything. Hate that pathetic jackass. Always have. Never a hero. Just a decent attorney that did to the mob what nobody before him could. Then buildings fell on and killed all his friends and he went off the deep end.

    RubberElectrons,
    @RubberElectrons@lemmy.world avatar

    Fuck yeah, you remember when he lost the fight against the Brooklyn museum of art for a painting of the virgin Mary made of elephant dung?

    In other cultures, that dung symbolizes the potential for life, but it offended that sensitive fascist bitch to where he tried to cut 1/3 of our tax money to the museum until they took it down. Courts denied that loser for violating the first amendment. And that kept happening, repeatedly, he’d violate the first amendment, lose the associated lawsuit and cost the City millions in the process… Repeatedly. What a loser.

    blazeknave,

    Holy shit (no pun intended) I forgot about that. Wasn’t there also vaginal blood virgin Mary or was that something else?

    Was he also mayor when they found the Indian burial grounds under the civic center predating five points, and then did nothing about it?

    RubberElectrons, (edited )
    @RubberElectrons@lemmy.world avatar

    I think it was the black family burial grounds under that federal building on court st(?), but you might also be right. There was a lot going on in this big city.

    E: this is what I’m talking about, same thing?

    blazeknave,

    Yes! That was the burial ground! I went to high school downtown but for some reason we never went northeast of city hall to that side of the plaza. I remember seeing it in person after reading that and feeling like a tourist. Meanwhile I was like 3 blocks from J&R where we used to buy tapes with our lunch money after starving all week

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    Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 134217728 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 16384 bytes) in /var/www/kbin/kbin/vendor/symfony/var-dumper/Dumper/HtmlDumper.php on line 785