farcaster,

“I don’t think so but if you want us to eat healthier and get more exercise I’m game”

Hangglide,

He said in his post she has put on weight. Why lie when there are many other not lying answers that are much better?

nobloat,

She was underweight before because she hardly ate anything. She’s way better now. But some people comment on her change of weight because they compare it to how she was before.

Nacktmull, (edited )
@Nacktmull@lemmy.world avatar

It´s a trap. She seems to suffer from an eating disorder, so if you directly respond to the statement, you can only lose. No matter what you say she will find a way to turn it around. Instead ignore the “I am fat” part and immediately steer away from the topic. Try something like:

I’m sorry, it looks like this is freaking you out. You know it’s not useful to talk about it, right? So, let’s do something to change the mood. Shall we (insert activity you both enjoy) instead?

I wish you both all the best!

Catoblepas, (edited )

‘Tell your gf to just ignore it and not talk about being upset to you’ is a great way to ruin a relationship. A woman being upset is not a trap, and viewing relationships as adversarial is setting yourself up for failure.

ETA: This guy can’t stop editing comments to try to make it look like he had less of a meltdown than he did.

Nacktmull, (edited )
@Nacktmull@lemmy.world avatar

You (and the others who downvoted my comment) are completely missing the main point here, which is that the gf is obviously showing behavioural patterns connected to a form of eating disorder, like Anorexia and/or Bulimia.

A woman being upset is not a trap

Of course not. However, a conversation about “being fat”, with a person who suffers from an eating disorder is definitely a trap, as long as you are not a specialized therapist.

viewing relationships as adversarial is setting yourself up for failure

I view eating disorders as adversarial, not relationships. Please stop projecting your incorrect assumptions on me.

Catoblepas,

I am on blahaj, I literally can’t downvote you.

‘Just don’t think about it’ is a pretty terrible way to deal with eating disorders as well. Which this might not even be the case, as there are plenty of other things that manifest in a lack of appetite, not all of which are even mental illnesses.

Nacktmull, (edited )
@Nacktmull@lemmy.world avatar

Why are you ignoring the fact that OP said “She was underweight before because she hardly ate anything”? Seems like you are not arguing in good faith. I am done talking to you because you seem either naive, or even worse, pro-Anorexia/Bulimia.

Catoblepas, (edited )

You are inventing a reason for not eating anything when OP said nothing about that, and ignored me pointing out multiple things can cause people to lose appetite. Thanks for not subjecting me to any more of the same, at least!

By the way, people can tell you edited your comment to try to sneakily call me pro-anorexia after I made my comment.

Nacktmull, (edited )
@Nacktmull@lemmy.world avatar

I made up nothing. I simply quoted OP and everyone can see that. You on the other hand are clearly not arguing in good faith and I don´t have time for that. Blocked to prevent further animosities.

Catoblepas,

Thank Christ 😂

papalonian,

I don’t think you have any experience with eating disorders or women in general. Someone who used to be skinny gaining a bit of weight and feeling fat is not “behavioral patterns connected to anorexia/ bulimia”. And even if it was, how does “this is clearly freaking you out, let’s ignore it and do this instead” supposed to help?

I’ll assume you have the best of intentions in mind, if that’s the case you really shouldn’t be giving advice here because everything you’ve said so far is harmful.

Nacktmull, (edited )
@Nacktmull@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t think you have any experience with eating disorders or women in general.

That is nothing more than your assumption and you assume wrong. I will not tell you details about my private life, because it´s not your concern, just this much. I have several years of painful first hand experience of living with a women who suffers from severe eating disorders, so I intuitively recognize certain patters the moment I see them.

Someone who used to be skinny gaining a bit of weight and feeling fat is not “behavioural patterns connected to anorexia/ bulimia”.

That is not what OP described though. You are diminishing the facts. OP wrote:

She was underweight before because she hardly ate anything. She’s way better now.

So let´s believe OP and consider that she was not just skinny but in fact underweight, which is a very important and significant difference when talking about eating disorders. Furthermore, consider that the reason OP states for her being underweight before is that she used to “hardly eat anything” which clearly points to anorexia. Now combine being underweight and hardly eating anything earlier, with the fact that not being underweight anymore makes her feel “fat”, which points to distorted self perception and misguided body awareness.

And even if it was, how does “this is clearly freaking you out, let’s ignore it and do this instead” supposed to help?

By avoiding a discussion that will only do harm to someone with an eating disorder, independently of what you say to her. Did you ever have a discussion like that with someone who suffers from an eating disorder? I had them hundreds of times. There where in fact phases when I had such discussions on a daily basis and trust me, you can only loose there. Btw, I did not come up with that sentence myself. It´s from a website that gives professional tips about how to deal with people who suffer from eating disorders. I wish I would have known about it back then, when I would have needed it. Instead I fell into the trap over and over again and I wanted to help OP to not make that mistake.

I’ll assume you have the best of intentions in mind

You assume correctly.

if that’s the case you really shouldn’t be giving advice here because everything you’ve said so far is harmful.

I honestly do not understand how, because my intention was the exact opposite of doing harm. Please elaborate.

papalonian,

It doesn’t matter if your intention was the opposite of doing harm. Your advice was not good advice. Your experience with someone who had an eating disorder doesn’t give you the ability to intuitively diagnose everyone that reminds you of their situation as having the same disorder.

You’re making huge assumptions based on little information. Saying people are underweight or hardly eat anything doesn’t even come close to automatically meaning “eating disorder”. I’m underweight myself and eat very little, I’m not anorexic. If I feel chubby after a few days of binge eating, someone trying to make me stop thinking about it by distracting me like a dog isn’t going to help.

Again, I’m assuming your goal is to help so I’m not trying to be rude, but your advice is both making the issue out to be much larger than it probably is (saying she is anorexic/ bulimic while OP never used these words) while simultaneously suggesting he ignore the problem by distracting her. Even if she does have an eating disorder, as others have pointed out, saying things are “a trap” is not a healthy way to look at it, as someone reaching out for help is not doing so to put you in a bad position.

Nacktmull, (edited )
@Nacktmull@lemmy.world avatar

I’m underweight myself and eat very little (…) I feel chubby after a few days of binge eating

I see, so you are probably affected by an eating disorder yourself and therefore biased. That explains your stance on the topic.

your advice is (…) making the issue out to be much larger than it probably is. (…) OP never used these words

OP sounds inexperienced and probably is confronted with this kind of disorder for the first time. So naturally OP describes it without using certain vocabulary and therefore wrote: “She gained some weight but she is not fat at all!” and “She was underweight before, because she hardly ate anything”.

simultaneously suggesting he ignore the problem

So you agree there is a problem? I never suggested to ignore the problem. I only suggested to not join in on the topic of “I am fat”, brought up by someone with a possible eating disorder. See next point for reason.

as someone reaching out for help is not doing so to put you in a bad position

Saying “I am fat” when being just above underweight, does not equal asking for help. It equals asking for confirmation of a distorted body awareness and self image.

Blocked to prevent further animosities.

papalonian,

I see, so you are probably affected by an eating disorder yourself and therefore biased. That explains your stance on the topic.

You either have no idea what you’re talking about, or you’re a troll. Most people stop diagnosing strangers over the Internet when they leave high school. I really hope nobody follows your bad, harmful advice.

Do you find it strange that your professional, sound advice is getting down voted em masse? You really think you’ve got the right take?

TheInsane42,
@TheInsane42@lemmy.world avatar

When she was under weight, just tell her she looks a lot healtier then she did and most importantly that you like her no matter what.

With humans it’s just like with other animals, you shouldn’t be able to see the ribs, you need to be able to feel them, just. (You can go hunt for them and tickle her to prove it ;) )

Rhynoplaz,

Has gained weight is different than is fat.

She could have gone from 97lbs to 98lbs. Gained weight, but not fat.

pearsaltchocolatebar,

Yup, I have to make this point to my wife every time she says it. BDD is a bitch.

stolid_agnostic,

Wow. Rhetoric is important. You have to convince people. Sometimes that’s doing it with them.

pearsaltchocolatebar,

It’s not lying. Fat and overweight mean different things in this context. Fat is a pejorative word, carrying a negative connotation. Overweight is a statement of fact

The gf isn’t saying, “I’m fat,” as an acknowledgement of her weight being over the recommended bmi, she’s actually saying, “I’ve gained weight, and I feel ugly and I’m concerned you won’t be attracted to me anymore.”

grue, (edited )

Might as well ask Lemmy how to pass the Kobayashi Maru test, while you’re at it.

HappycamperNZ, (edited )

Understand the deeper meaning of the situation and what they are actually looking for?

You know what, other poster that recommendations cheating may be easier.

Edit: or is this a helplessness, try anyway deal??

Im_old,

Might be a tricky example. The answer to that according to a certain cadet is to cheat. Not sure gf would appreciate that.

Strayce,

I always liked Calhoun’s solution. Obliterate the Maru. It’s either a trap or it’s not. If it is, you don’t want to leave it there for someone else to fall for. If it’s not, you don’t want to leave it there to cause a diplomatic incident, and fiery plasma death is probably better than whatever the Klingons / Romulans would do to the crew.

Of course, I don’t recommended launching a full spread of photon torpedoes at your gf.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA,
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

The Calhoun solution? Throw a bald cancerous kid in the simulator?

KingJalopy,
@KingJalopy@lemm.ee avatar

If done successfully she’ll never know

EdibleFriend,
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

What do you expect? Your mom was fat and as you grow older you’re becoming her.

pearsaltchocolatebar,

How to get a divorce with one easy step!

Agent641,

This kills the man

EdibleFriend,
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

If you’re still alive at that point, and want that to change, start talking about her younger sister.

iamtrashman1312,

“You callin my girl fat you piece of shit?!”

lseif,

i love this comment. it is extremely funny. /gen

TheOneWithTheHair,
@TheOneWithTheHair@lemmy.world avatar
notun,

“Is that what we’re gonna do today, we gonna fight?”

hydrospanner,

“Have you tried eating less than a metric fuckton of junk at every meal, ya goddamn ham planet?!”

That’ll work.

Sprinks,

For the past year ive been struggling with my body image because of a small amount of weight gain even though im fully aware im not fat. I love my husband to death, but i wish he had done the below when i expressed disliking my physical appearance.

Stop and hug them. Give them reassurance through physical contact. Tell them you love them. Hearing it, even when you know you are loved, is reassuring. Tell them they’re beautiful and compliment something specific about them, like the color of their eyes or a cute mole. Then, treat them to a date somewhere they can dress up “fancy”, spend the night complimenting their appearance, and “show them off” as if you cant help but brag to the world that a beautiful woman like her chose to be with you that night.

Calanthesrose,

Thank you for a serious answer. I would love it if a man did this for me after I expressed dislike about my appearance.

wesker,
@wesker@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

You can’t win this one.

fuggadihere,

Yup, whatever you say is going to backfire, make sure you got an exit plan :)

Hamartiogonic,
@Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz avatar

It’s over OP, she has the high ground.

NeoNachtwaechter,

You have to rebuke her. For real. Go like this:

" Don’t you dare! I love this lovely girl here. Don’t you dare badmouth her or you’ll have to deal with me! "

(and not a word about fat or weight or width or any outside descriptions, because this is only about self deprecation)

xigoi,
@xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

“Phew! I thought you were pregnant.”

willya, (edited )
@willya@lemmyf.uk avatar

“It’s all in your ass tho and I’m and ass man.”

Land_Strider,
willya,
@willya@lemmyf.uk avatar

Lmao, damn I’m right there with em.

Kit,

After having some nice intimate time, during the quiet afterglow, ask her how her self esteem has been lately. Maybe she’s feeling down and wants to talk about it.

Once her feelings are in the open it will be easier to feel out a solution.

Cuberoot,

Well it isn’t mine. I had a vasectomy.

kamenlady,
@kamenlady@lemmy.world avatar

Instant ex tactic

Xanis,

My partner flat asked if I still find her as attractive as I used to. After some thought I said the following, “I don’t think that’s fair. You’re asking me to rate someone I care about so much. I don’t want to do that. I love you and just want to be there for you, with you.”

Tbh, I don’t know what the right answer might be for others. I’m not that wise. All I know for certain is how I feel and hoped that was enough. It was, though I am sad that I can’t take her self-esteem and tear away those damn chains that hold it back from growing.

Riven,
@Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

That’s what I say as well and not just to those sort of questions.

‘I’m not gonna answer that since there’s no upside to it regardless of what I say.’

It’s my go to for unfair questions/questions my opinion doesn’t matter in.

Trollception,

A classic non-answer answer. You will do well with women.

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