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problematicPanther, in Offering solutions is annoying
@problematicPanther@lemmy.world avatar

Sometimes people just need someone to listen to them bitch and moan. Sometimes we don’t need a solution, sometimes there isn’t even a solution.

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Viking_Hippie, in Charcoal is messy

Reminds me of the Google translate cover of the song from Frozen 😁

Crul, (edited ) in Hop in bed [Extra Fabulous Comics]
Crul, in Surprise Service
Crul, in At the gym [Safely Endangered]
Norgur, (edited ) in Offering solutions is annoying

For anyone struggling with this, two hints that might help you frame your role better:

  1. Listening is the solution. By trying to solve what your SO told you, you are actually trying to solve the wrong problem. Their real problem is that their brain needs to say things aloud to someone in order to correctly process it's own thoughts. Therapists make a frickin' living off of that quirk of our brains and it's the actual problem they come to you with. Even better: By listening you can not only advise on solutions, you can be the solution! Neat, huh?
  2. Listening and solving aren't mutually exclusive. If you stick to listening first, your SO might actually come to a point where your advice is wanted. Pro tip: Once their thoughts slow down, ask if they want to hear what you think about the issue. From my experience, the answer will be "yes" very often. That way, your thoughts will actually reach your SO and not get blocked by frustration outright. Yet, as with everything else: No means no. So if you get a no, don't try again, shut the fuck up, alright?
mriormro,
@mriormro@lemmy.world avatar

Them’s a lot of rules. I think I’ll just choose to remain single.

Psychodelic,

Choose’s doing a lot of work in that sentence ;)

Spendrill, (edited )

Or yet another way to look at it is that when people are venting it’s not the actual problem that they’re venting about it’s the uncomfortable emotions that come about as a result of problem. Very usually, someone is doing something that makes their lives harder but it is within a very specific environment, e.g. work, school, some kind of committee, where there are rules against settling disputes by right of arms. So even though I might have a really elegant solution for ‘solving’ that particular dispute, what I tend to be listening to long term tends to be, 'Coworkers… can’t live with 'em, can’t kill ‘em’. To which the correct answer is obviously not ‘You could solve that problem with Piranha Solution - removes organic material from the substrate’, it’s ‘Yes, we do have to put up with annoying people for a long time sometimes.’

Mamertine, in Offering solutions is annoying

I’m a problem solver. I know how to solve those problems!

It took years of marriage before it was pointed out that’s not what the complainer wants.

FuglyDuck, (edited )
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

Step one: get lighter fluid.
Step two: set desk on fire.
Step three: quit.
Step four: woah, hold on I was just joking!

(Well, about the fire at any rate…)

Sotuanduso,

Lighter than what?

jadedwench,

In case you were seriously asking, “lighter fluid” is just fuel/gas to quickly (an accelerant) start a fire. So the fuel you might find in a cigarette lighter. Typically when people say “lighter fluid”, in this case, they mean the giant squirt bottle that you use on a barbecue pit to get the coals to light faster.

Moralion, (edited ) in Drinking in your 20s vs 30s [Sarah Anderson]

I have always been prone to having horrible hangovers, even in my twenties. Dihydromyricetin has saved my almost forty year old ass from the worst of them by now.

Pea666,

What’s that?

Moralion,

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3292407/

It is used to lessen withdrawal symptoms when treating alcoholics in some parts of the world.

Taken half an hour before starting and at the end of the evening strongly reduces the worst hangover effects.

No miracle cure, but it lessens the most severe hangover symptoms.

Spaceinv8er,

Combined with l-cysteine really helps too

ShunkW, in Offering solutions is annoying

I was way too old when I learned that you should ask if someone wants advice or just wants to vent. “Are we fixing or bitching?” is what I ask my best friend nowadays and it’s made us less likely to butt heads when one of us just wants to talk shit to get it out.

KISSmyOS,

I feel like that would be the wrong question to ask my wife while she’s venting.

Nythos,

I always ask “is this a rant or are you asking for a solution?” Same question but worded in a way that isn’t going to cause problems.

ShunkW,

Yeah I guess it depends on the person you’re talking to. Most people I’ve asked the question will usually laugh and say, “we’re bitching right now.”

I respond with, “bitch away.”

GraniteM, in Are you prepared to be judged? [Martin Rosner]

Unironically, why would anyone expect anything that happens after you die to be any less arbitrary and unpredictable than anything that happened while you were alive? Could be nothingness, but it could just as easily be Poseidon, or Flying Spaghetti Monster, or Kitty Cat Thanksgiving.

TheGiantKorean,
@TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world avatar

Oh shit Kitty Cat Thanksgiving 🙏🙏🙏🤞🤞🤞

Faresh,

That’s why you should believe in the god Sithrak (warning: other comics by same creator are nsfw)

https://media.oglaf.com/comic/sithrak.jpg

ours,

Because they indoctrinate people based on faith/fear/wishful thinking, not rational thinking.

RGB3x3,

People love to attribute meaning and purpose to the randomness that occurs in life because the randomness can be scary, confusing, and frustrating. I don’t blame them for that.

But perhaps if we all learned to properly cope with the difficulties in all our lives (rather than fool ourselves into thinking there is a mystical being controlling it all and judging us), we might be able to be nicer to each other.

Goronmon, in Drinking in your 20s vs 30s [Sarah Anderson]

When I hit my 30s it’s like my body just stopped being and to digest alcohol correctly. I wouldn’t even call it a hangover. Just a lingering uncomfortable feeling my stomach and a more than usual number of trips to the bathroom for 24 hours after. Even if I only have a few beers.

I’ve all but given up drinking at this point.

ours,

A friend of mine got that too. Even a glass of wine started to make him very sick. He had to give up drinking altogether.

oce, in Hop in bed [Extra Fabulous Comics]
@oce@jlai.lu avatar

I’m sure he can find another partner with this amount of gold.

Texas_Hangover, in "Pet" by Sarah Andersen

My god that bitch is insufferable. The best thing to happen to Sarah Andersen was 4 chan.

Th3D3k0y, in "If I knew then what I know now" by Port Sherry

It sometimes blows my mind that if I ever beat my dick more or less times than I did growing up, I wouldn’t have fathered the exact children I have and love currently.

I wouldn’t change anything about my past. I love my wife, I like my kids, I would probably end up ruining something along the way that would change that.

wrath_of_grunge, in Offering solutions is annoying
@wrath_of_grunge@kbin.social avatar

some many years ago my wife and i had a conversation about this.

sometimes it needs to be communicated to me that she wants to vent. this is different than seeking solutions to a given problem.

vamputer, (edited )
@vamputer@infosec.pub avatar

I think that’s an important thing that seems to get overlooked when this topic comes up. It’s a two-way street- if you just want to vent, be sure to say so. Don’t get upset when your partner doesn’t just assume that’s what you want.

Of course, the “two-way street” thing really needs to be emphasized, since the person venting is likely frustrated and can’t always be expected to be clearheaded enough to remember to communicate it properly. Also, if all they ever want to do is vent, y’know…maybe that’s a pattern you should pick up on eventually (the hypothetical “you,” of course. Not the person I’m specifically replying to :P)

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