ezchili,

If it doesn’t survive the machines, it doesn’t belong in my house

Message sponsored by the dishwasher/washing machine/dryer gang

Pxtl,
@Pxtl@lemmy.ca avatar

Same with toddler toys:

“It can go in the dishwasher, the washing machine, or the garbage”.

peopleproblems,

for real tho, this is advice I wish I had about one week into having a newborn.

Absolutely terrified during his first blowout. “Put it allin the washing machine with baby-sensitive detergent” It was about an hour of fear that I just got liquid poo mixed in everything.

Goddamn, did that ever make me respect the washing machine. Detergent, water, and spinning. Cat barfs on blanket? Washing machine. Kid barfs on everyone’s clothes during his first real illness? Washing machine. Unknown Substance that smells worse than it looks? Washing machine.

Don’t even need to use anything other than cold water. No colors or shrinking to worry about that way.

Pxtl,
@Pxtl@lemmy.ca avatar

I remember those days, having to remind myself that the relief of “whew, it’s just urine” is not okay.

ezchili,

I tried the reddit advice of cold water and sadly it definitely left stains that would’ve been cleaned otherwise

silentknyght,
ezchili,

This is excellent

MonkderZweite,

Hang drying and you don’t need to iron. (And clothes hold longer and needs a few kW/h less power).

LazaroFilm,
@LazaroFilm@lemmy.world avatar

You just need full acre of basement for that.

Pxtl,
@Pxtl@lemmy.ca avatar

I have 3 kids and do the laundry on Wednesday and Sunday, about 3-4 loads each time. Everything gets hang-dried except towels, socks, pyjama-pants, and men’s undies, which go in one big late-night load in the dryer when the juice is cheap.

It takes 2 small clothes horses in my laundry room. Not a huge basement.

Only time I’m doing lots of drying is when I’m washing sheets, which is probably less often than I should.

Vegasimov,

What? This is how most people in European cities dry their clothes and I guarantee they all have smaller houses than in American cities

Just needs a clotheshorse which is like the size of a table

ezchili,

I hang mine on four door-mounted clothehangers, it takes up less space

KSPAtlas,
@KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz avatar

Wait, they’re called clotheshorses? I just called them drying racks

Vegasimov,

I’d go with clothes horse or maiden, to me a drying rack is for dishes

oce,
@oce@jlai.lu avatar
Socsa,

And infinity time.

We were traveling in the UK and stayed with some family and we needed to do laundry pretty bad and they had a washer dryer combo machine. Obviously it was still wet afterwards, and we hung it to finish drying.

And left two days later with damp clothes.

MonkderZweite,

2m² and only temporary.

CADmonkey,

Unless it’s raining all week.

dubyakay,

Hang inside.

Socsa,

And now I have basement mold.

chiliedogg,

You guys still get rain?

CADmonkey,

Yeah, usually when we try to dry clothes. The other thing we have are storms that can spread your clothes to all of your neighbor’s houses.

cm0002,

Nobody has time for that lmao, it takes what 10-20 minutes to hang up a full load?

When I can just toss everything from the washer into the dryer and hit Start in <1 minute? Lol

MonkderZweite,

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  • cm0002,

    You’re just reusing the same argument as the anti-dishwasher people

    Nothing to do with laziness and everything to do with having higher priorities that could use that 10-20 minutes on top of just plain efficiency gains

    Pxtl,
    @Pxtl@lemmy.ca avatar

    Dishwashers are actually greener than hand-washing. Do I have to link the TechnologyConnections video?

    cm0002,

    You misunderstood, I’m definitely pro-dishwasher and have seen both of TC’s dishwasher videos.

    “You’re just being lazy” is a common argument anti-dishwashers bring up along with the (Incorrect) “It’s faster to hand wash”

    However, that being said, being greener isn’t why I’m pro-dishwasher. It’s because it saves time I can use for anything else

    It’s a waste of time to hang dry, it’s a 5-10x increase over just shoving them in the dryer, hitting start and going off to do whatever. It’s simply inefficient to spend time hanging clothes to dry.

    Pxtl,
    @Pxtl@lemmy.ca avatar

    Yes, but in this case there are actual measurable benefits to hang-drying besides financial cost. Unlike the dishwasher, hang drying is measurably greener. And also it tends to prolong the life of your clothes.

    This is a case where “being lazy” has a real trade-off, like fixing yourself a meal from proper ingredients vs nuking a TV dinner.

    cm0002, (edited )

    hang drying is measurably greener.

    Probably, but not enough to really matter at the end of the day when the vast majority of pollution is by the hands of corporations not not the general public. If every single one of us “regular folk” lived perfectly green lives, it would barely nudge the needle. That’s just the sad reality we have to deal with.

    That’s not to say you should go out and do the opposite just because it doesn’t matter, just that it’s not a slam dunk argument by any means.

    And also it tends to prolong the life of your clothes.

    I briefly researched this to try to come up with some studies on this. There aren’t any with Hang Dry vs Dryer, although I did find one that concluded that cold and fast washing increased longevity.

    The real culprit for longevity is cheap shit vs quality, the vast majority of clothing for my family is tshirts, hoodies and jeans with a scattering of “specialized” clothing (Slacks, lingerie, delicates, dress clothing etc.)

    And I can say that cheap and/or fast fashion crap are the only things I’ve ever seen that actually have a significant shortened life when going through the wash/dry cycle. And usually within weeks.

    Quality jeans and cotton tshirts I’ve got have been going on 5+ years just fine. I don’t even buy clothes for replacement that often, mostly just because it looks nice and caught my eye or something. Hell, I’m wearing a hoodie rn that’s going on 10 years and it’s never known a single day on the line and it’s going strong. Maybe it’s a little more faded than when it was new, but it’s been so long I can’t even remember.

    And then it’s also incredibly subjective to each person, where’s the line of what’s “unwearable” is it the second elastic starts being a little deformed or can you go a bit longer? Is it when tiny holes start showing up or is it not until it’s obviously torn and tattered?

    AFAIC any piece of clothing that lasts more than 4 or 5 years is on bonus time, after that point I’ve gotten my value out of it so sacrificing upwards of 20 minutes every load to maybe get another 1 or 2 out of it is an utter waste (and even that is debatable, what studies I did find on longevity pointed to quality of manufacturing (aka stop buying the cheap shit) and washing on cold)

    ETA: www.sciencedirect.com/…/S0143720819320431

    www.sciencedirect.com/…/S0959652622010186

    ezchili,

    Yeah but ironing

    cm0002,

    Screw ironing, I don’t even own an iron and I never will

    ezchili,

    I feel like this sounds great until we see a picture of one of your shirts

    cm0002,

    I don’t think it really matters if your shirt is wrinkled*. I used to work a suit and tie job in a past life, while the suit part would get regularly dry cleaned, the inner button down shirt and slacks would get washed and dried with the rest of the laundry and never ironed. Nobody ever said, emailed, sticky noted a damn thing that affected my career or social work-life sooo ¯_(ツ)_/¯

    *Except the following groups: Politicians, Celebrities, Rich people, Executives.

    ezchili,

    I mean some people like clothes

    I like to look sharp and dress nicely, not to advance a career, if I do it at work it’s really just for my colleagues and for the hell of rocking something with style. Outside of work too

    I feel like creased clothed would nullify any fashion reaches whether it’s nice shoes, a peculiar and unique shirt or a cool blouse; put on a creased shirt and it makes or break the line between “a bold choice” to “ah, that man dressed like he doesn’t know what he’s doing”

    cm0002,

    I feel like that’s a bit different, if it’s something you enjoy that’s great!

    What I was more against was when people make ironing out to be some requirement of life, another chore that needs to be done just like the dishes or laundry itself.

    ezchili,

    Oh yeah that’s lame

    DharmaCurious,
    @DharmaCurious@startrek.website avatar

    This is me, the only exception is hand knitted or crocheted items. They’re literally the only things I’ll actually respect wash instructions on. If someone takes the time to make me something by hand, or if I spend the time to do it, I’ll treat it right. Otherwise, that shit is going is going into the washer with shirts, jeans, two towels, a flat sheet, a little bleach, some powder detergent, and some downy. I know you’re not supposed to downy towels, but ain’t nobody got time for separating laundry in this bish.

    Stamets,
    @Stamets@startrek.website avatar

    That’s fair. If it’s been hand crafted with love that’s something different than, I dunno, some random sportsball shit I have from Walmart.

    DharmaCurious,
    @DharmaCurious@startrek.website avatar

    Ew, you have sportsball equipment? The gay agenda is going to need a word with you. You’re hurting our image. We abandoned respectability politics in the 2010s. You need to update your plan, or you could face serious fines and a loss of the ability of walk super quickly for no reason.

    Stamets,
    @Stamets@startrek.website avatar

    It was a shirt and it was on sale!

    DharmaCurious,
    @DharmaCurious@startrek.website avatar

    Oh, that’s different. Items on sale are exempt. You should have led with that! You almost lost Quick Walk!

    mpa92643,

    Towels honestly dry you off SO much better when they’re washed with no fabric softener. It’s worth an extra wash to do towels separately

    KaedanJarret,

    Just stop using fabric softener in general. It’s basically liquid plastic coating your clothes. 🤮🤢🤮

    Rolando,

    I don’t do bleach or fabric softener, but I will use a garment bag for a style of t-shirts that I like but that fall apart otherwise.

    Anticorp,

    Dryclean only means “I will never wear this sweater again”

    Death_Equity,

    “This sweater is dry-clean only, which means its dirty.” -Mitch Hedberg

    quaddo,

    I once sent off my favourite tie that had a cool pattern on it to her dry cleaned.

    It came back with the pattern partially erased.

    A sad day for me.

    samus12345,
    @samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

    “Whatever, dude, you’re the one that has to wear me.”

    Pyr_Pressure,

    If you don’t survive the gauntlet, you’re in the next bag to the donation bin.

    starman2112,
    @starman2112@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Aka salvation army’s trash delivery

    ammonium,

    My washing machine has a hand wash mode 👀

    Imgonnatrythis,

    Does it use real hands or synthetic?

    Dontfearthereaper123,

    No flex 💪 bro but my washing machine 🌀👚 uses fresh real hands 🤚 from the children 👶 in my basement.

    PlantDadManGuy,

    But Caaaaaaarl, amputated hands might stain the shirt!

    TheGreenGolem,

    Anything that breaks in the washing machine/dryer/dishwasher trifecta, doesn’t deserve to live in our house.

    rmuk,

    None of my plates survived the washing machine. Fucking IKEA.

    Gestrid,

    They just want you to put your plates back together.

    quaddo,

    IKEA meets kintsugi

    TheSaneWriter,
    @TheSaneWriter@lemmy.thesanewriter.com avatar

    And the dishwasher shredded my laundry. Stuff just isn’t built to last anymore.

    FQQD,

    Do the manufacturers just do this to not be responsible if the shirt doesn’t survive the machinery?

    Kusimulkku,

    Some are damaged by washing in high heat or tumble drying them. Not like straight away but over time.

    killeronthecorner,
    @killeronthecorner@lemmy.world avatar

    If I see this on something cotton or polyester, I just don’t buy it as it insinuate cheap dying and manufacturing.

    On wool, cashmere, etc. it’s a bit more reasonable

    cm0002,

    It’s like dishware being not dishwasher safe

    Sometimes they didn’t want to pay for the testing and don’t want to be liable (Probably cheap product) sometimes they didn’t want to spend the extra 0.05¢/item to apply the proper coating/dyes/machine resistant features (Cheap product)

    The rest of the time, it’s truly because of “specialized” material, like wool.

    If you’re looking to buy clothing, it’s best if you simply didn’t buy anything that is “Handwash Only” (Unless it’s something like wool).

    If everybody checked and avoided buying “Handwash Only” clothing AND dishware, they would disappear off the market rather quickly (With the exception of special materials that truly can’t be made machine-safe)

    Smoogs,

    Tbf knives will not stay sharp if you dishwash them. You just have to sharpen them more often if you do. So you’re either lazy not to hand wash them OR lazy not to sharpen them as much. Has nothing to do with how they are manufactured. Knives just don’t stay sharp in machine washing as the heat dulls it.

    cm0002,

    Just like there are true exceptions for clothing there are true exceptions for dishware

    I personally just send them through the dishwasher and sharpen as needed

    Kiosade,

    Wait… people are putting knives in the dishwasher?! The fuck? They’re like the easier thing to clean!

    starman2112,
    @starman2112@sh.itjust.works avatar

    I didn’t actually know that it was bad to put knives in the dishwasher until only a couple months ago. For anyone wondering, dishwasher detergent is abrasive, and will mechanically dull blades.

    dona1dquixote,

    Well yeah, so are plates but I’m not going to hand wash all of those. I can only trust my dishwasher with stuff that is easy to clean.

    AtariDump,

    I can only trust my dishwasher with stuff that is easy to clean.

    You either need different dishwasher detergent or a new dishwasher.

    The day I have to pre-rise dishes or the dishwasher doesn’t clean dirty dishes is the day I go shopping for a new dishwasher.

    dona1dquixote,

    I rent and the dishwasher is like 20 years old.

    Smoogs,

    It gets worse. People will go like “this shit is dull” blame the knife and won’t even consider it needs to be sharpened (or don’t want to) chuck it or give it away and BUY NEW knives like every 1-2 years not realizing these things could last decades. All because they think they are too lazy but the whole procedure is actually more work.

    Then you have the group who just use dull knives forever and accept it because they think sharp knives are dangerous. And then not realize how much more dangerous that is to use a dull knife that will slip off of things more so than a sharp knife would.

    Kiosade,

    I don’t know how these people function day to day…

    I actually did once know someone that I encouraged to buy a new (cheapish but decent) chef’s knife. A few months later I asked how they liked it, and they were like “oh I left it in the sink sitting in water overnight one too many times, and it developed rust spots, so I trashed it” 🤯

    Socsa,

    “Best I can do is make it quick”

    Punchline to the original Dilbert Comic (also fuck Scott Adams)

    shatterling,

    This is one of my favourites of his, I love the action hero face in the last panel

    Rolando,

    I love the smug entitled face on the shirt in the first panel.

    Damaskox, (edited )
    @Damaskox@lemmy.world avatar

    I don’t do anything else than laundry gauntlet.
    I once washed one piece of cloth on its own but it felt like a huuuge waste!

    Nowadays I take my chances. But I must say that my clothing doesn’t seem to take that much damage (obviously they’d live longer otherwise but I don’t want to fill a whole machine worth of water for one piece of clothing, that’s nuts!).

    PeterPoopshit,

    I do laundry gauntlet too but a lot of my clothes are tattered and worn. Probably because I still wear a lot of the same clothes I was wearing 10 years ago though and less because of my laundry habits. I did finally retire my oldest jeans this year but the t shirts are still in good enough shape.

    balderdash9,

    I don’t think I’ve ever hand-washed anything. Then again, most clothes these days are build to be pretty disposable and include plastics instead of only natural fibers.

    JoMiran,
    @JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

    In goes a red shirt, out comes a pink tea cozy.

    fiah,
    @fiah@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    if that is how it be, then it always were a cozy

    Kusimulkku,

    I try to follow the instructions so the clothes survive for longer, but with older clothes with tears and shit, anything goes

    nicetriangle,
    @nicetriangle@kbin.social avatar

    Relatable

    n3m37h,

    Drywash only? INTO THE GAUNTLET!

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