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Maoo, in Get gud
@Maoo@hexbear.net avatar

Evo Psych is a garbage field for frauds but I would buy insecure dudes expressing more misogyny.

emergencyfood,

Evolutionary psychology is very much a real science. But like every other science, it is based on a lot of assumptions. So the actual scientists work mostly on boring theoretical questions, while the frauds often come up in the news pushing some pseudoscientific defence for their bigotry.

Taleya, in Get gud

Ain’t just gaming. I dropped a note on a home tech forum while being visibly female and very rapidly realised i’d forgotten how fucking neckbeardy rank amateurs are

I’ve been a network/systems engineer for 25 years, my fellow pros would never be so gauche.

Except dev.

rediot,

Except dev. 😞

Taleya,

Rather ironically, I’m actually married to a dev

echodot,

Tell Dev to cut it out.

Taleya,

instructions unclear, husband now caught in ceiling fan ranting about SEO

hoshikarakitaridia,

And that’s why they made us learn Murphy’s law early on :P

Taleya,

I prefer O’Toole’s Commentary. Murphy was a fuckin’ optimist

gkd,
@gkd@lemmy.ml avatar

It’s weird with devs. Most of us are fine but there’s definitely a sizable number of “tech bros” that absolutely are misogynistic. And it’s probably worse than I realize not being the target of it.

nickwitha_k, (edited )

Also, a disturbing number of misogynistic people in web design/web dev needing help from technical support. It was rather shocking and educational for me, as a cis male, to work as a support supervisor. I never anticipated the level of sexism and harassment that my female techs faced on a daily basis.

Everything from asking of they want to do porn to “can I talk to a man”. I had several techs that had to change the names that they used for customer communications to male or neutral ones due to the severity on the unending sexism despite regular warnings to the customers that this behavior would not be tolerated.

Taleya,

Working sysadmin gets you four times more abuse because it’s the crux of ‘mean person won’t let my idiot arse run rampant on a system because they’re mean and i hate them’ and ‘fuck youse wimmen don’t tell me what to fucking do’

pixxelkick, in Get gud

What I would be really interested in, is how does it play out in reversed scenarios.

How do inexperienced women react to a singular man commenting in a competitive area that is female dominated, do you see the sane sorr of vitriol from lower performing women, vs welcoming behavior from better performing women?

Taleya,

Well if you want a reversal you need to be true to the parameters: get an experienced male operating - not commenting - and you need to do so NOT in an area dominated by women.

Because the gender split in gaming is almost 50/50. A 1% difference is negligible

TopRamenBinLaden,

That’s true for all video games but most competitive games with an esports scene will have many more male players than women. A lot of this is due to the extra toxicity female gamers experience in those scenes. Not only do they have to deal with the usual toxicity that everybody does when playing those kind of games, but also have to deal with the misogynistic and rape comments on top of that.

I wish it wasn’t the case, and it does appear to be changing with time, thankfully. I notice quite a few more women in Counter Strike 2 than I have in past iterations of the game. I hope to see many more women in competitive esports in the future.

LwL,

Competitive arena shooters have always seemed the worst to me, so if cs2 has more women that’s really good to hear. I think in a combined ~1k hours of csgo and valorant (haven’t played either in years though) i can count the amount of times ive hears women speak in vcs on my hands, and I’m not sure if it was ever not followed by some stupid sexist comments.

Definitely seeing many women in other genres, just waiting for more to reach pro level so we actually see mixed gender or sometimes all women teams in professional esports commonly. As it stands it also still seems like a few too many people would immediately blame any bad performance on being a woman, and no one really wants to deal with that kind of public response.

morphballganon, in Get gud

Scrub == scrub

Got it

PhlubbaDubba, in Get gud

Nobody fears competition more than the mediocre who only get by on the weight of their privilege.

theneverfox, in Get gud
@theneverfox@pawb.social avatar

Based af

jcdenton, in Get gud
@jcdenton@lemy.lol avatar

All I heard was men submissive to men

DragonTypeWyvern,

Low elo men confirmed biddable and breedable

jcdenton,
@jcdenton@lemy.lol avatar

Amen

AceQuorthon, in Get gud

Loser gamers are mad screaming chimpanzees confirmed

Taleya,
BoiLudens, in Hold my beer - Bungie

Leaving people with healthcare for a singular day is just evil

chemical_cutthroat,
@chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world avatar

Healthcare wasn’t affected, thankfully.

alilbee,

Plus, COBRA would come into play also. I’ve been in a similar situation and health insurance is luckily one of the least scary parts.

hydrospanner,

Cobra might as well not even exist for most people.

The two layoffs I’ve been through, Cobra was offered as an option and in both cases it was wildly unaffordable. Like…I couldn’t have afforded it even if I still had the job I had just lost, let alone while unemployed.

In both cases I just basically only had the option to cross my fingers and hope I didn’t need healthcare while letting it lapse completely until I found a new job. Thankfully in the first case I was only unemployed about 3 weeks, but the other time, it was about 6 months.

What eventually came through for me was my state’s version of Medicaid in that situation. Basically it was only available to people earning less than XYZ, but any funds you received as aid from the state didn’t count toward that, meaning that unemployment was exempt and as such, my income was zero. Of course there was like an 8 week waiting period and then it took several more weeks for all the paperwork to go through, but eventually it did kick in.

CandleTiger,

“Though not health insurance”

CountVon,
@CountVon@sh.itjust.works avatar

It’s a dick move for sure, but the clawback of unvested shares is vicious. Not possible to know the total worth without being privy to the employment contracts of those let go, but for a single senior employee of long tenure it might constitute a 6- or 7-figure rip-off. Depending on the number of staff let go, the amount of options each held and what their strike prices were, this layoff could potentially constitute a clawback of options that would have been worth tens or even hundreds of millions of dollars of Sony shares.

Nougat,

The clawback in general isn't really an issue; that's how restricted stock grants work. You forfeit anything that hasn't vested when you leave the company, no matter whose idea that is.

The problem is that it was Sony stock, and it's going back to Bungie. The stock should revert to Sony. In fact, I don't think it can be any other way, as those boilerplate details would have been included in the contract details of the initial stock grant. This makes me doubt the veracity of the unnamed source.

2nsfw2furious, in Hold my beer - Bungie

Per “a source” lol

Decoy321,

Paul Tassi is a legit journalist. Dude’s been covering games on Forbes for over a decade.

Deceptichum,
@Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

Forbes is my favourite console.

2nsfw2furious,

Doesn’t make “per a source” any less stupid of a phrase. Every thing is per a source. It only matters if the source is reliable. If you think any source of Paul’s is a reliable one, why bother stating “per a source”?

Delphia,

Any journalist with credibility vets their sources. “Per a source” is pretty much shorthand for “Someone who we have verified works at Bungie and we believe is in a reasonable position to know this information” so even if it turns out to be false its very hard to sue because they printed what they beleived to be true at the time and did basic due diligence to check it wasnt made up bullshit. Otherwise they use much more evasive and broad language.

Tarcion, in Hold my beer - Bungie

Tassi’s a pretty well-respected and reliable journalist. I would trust his info. And Destiny is one of the games he consistently covers. We know from prior stories he has sources inside Bungie. Using present tense in the hope they weren’t all laid off.

wreckedcarzz, in Hold my beer - Bungie
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

Cue: “mysterious fires at Sony HQ, responders say likely many simultaneously acts of arson”

Fired bungie employees: “oh no! anyway”

starman2112,
@starman2112@sh.itjust.works avatar

God, if only

harbinger, in Hold my beer - Bungie

I assume that stock was in the form of restricted stock units that vest over the course of a few years. I’ve seen this kind of thing play out at a few big tech companies over the years and have seen people lose literally hundreds of thousands of dollars in delayed payout.

They offer these as a “loyalty incentive” so the employee wants to stay while of course offering no loyalty in return when they decide to execute layoffs.

alcoholicorn,

That seems insane to agree to, like it incentivizes the company to fire people the day before their stock is fully vested.

harbinger,

You’re not wrong

dojan,
@dojan@lemmy.world avatar

Sounds like just another way to avoid paying people. A share that’s never paid out might as well just be Monopoly money.

harbinger,

One of the worst instances was one year that virtually all “merit increases” were instead replaced with RSUs that vested in a year. When I had to bring that to my team and tell them what they were getting… Well, not a single one of us expected to see that money. Sure enough, layoffs happened and that potential money evaporated before any of us saw a cent. None of us were unprepared or surprised, but obviously still unhappy.

qupada,

Plays out in small tech companies too, albeit in a slightly different way.

Got that carrot dangled in front of me at a past job. Company was past start-up phase; self-supporting and doing ok, but not outrageously well. Promises of riches should the company be "noticed" and bought for an outrageous amount.

Of course none of that accounted for the CEO (founder and 85% shareholder) being an absolute crazy person, who would change the development roadmap into making a vastly different product than the one we (the techies) believed in, TURN DOWN THE OUTRAGEOUS SUM BECAUSE HE THOUGHT HE COULD GET A BETTER OFFER, basically run the company into the ground, and wind up selling it for a pittance (which would have made the employees' share a pittance of a pittance).

I mean most of us had already left by that point, but finding out around 4 years after that he'd turned down about $150M and wound up selling out for $3M, that stung a little.

CandleTiger,

Hey, I worked there!

nickwitha_k,

Sounds familiar to me too.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Reminds me of a place I worked for in the 90s. We were the premiere catalog of contemporary radio drama in the country. It was niche, but doing okay. One day, this company comes up to us and says that they’re starting a satellite radio network and if we work on a commission basis, the company will make a lot of money. Only about five people worked there and we all begged and pleaded with the owner to take the offer, but he was nuts and kept saying things like, “there’s GOT to be a catch!” So he ended up passing.

Yes, that was Sirius, which became XM.

Fucking moron.

ultratiem,
@ultratiem@lemmy.ca avatar

Except these were never meant to be paid out. Bungee isn’t about to give away their company to their employees.

It’s a plastic carrot.

harbinger,

Yes, I am certain that was the case. It was the case in my examples too… Every now and then someone gets through and gets a couple units to vest, but the majority are gone and so is that compensation. It’s disgusting.

ultratiem,
@ultratiem@lemmy.ca avatar

I assume they have to cash in some. Or else the SEC comes sniffing around like “you guys have given out 3 million shares over ten years but no one has ever cashed a singled one out, hmmmmm”. So those are likely the rare few. And a few units tracks because they aren’t giving $2m in stock to some entry level tech.

I always liken those practices to the same shit they flash musicians or sports figures during negotiations. Wave a mansion, Lambo, gold, some ladies making all kinds of promised. But in the end, some contractual loop hole says that you’re just “borrowing” it all. Fake money.

Steeve,

RSUs can be a great bonus, but agreed, you definitely shouldn’t consider RSUs part of your total compensation unless they vest quarterly to yearly. If they take a full four years to start vesting you definitely shouldn’t count on that income.

mindbleach,

Honestly, consider banning any reward besides cold hard cash. Pay people up-front and in full. If there’s residuals then they’re a percent gross and don’t say shit about employment.

If somebody did the work - give them the fucking money.

Complicated forms of theft should put white-collar scumbags in prison.

ArugulaZ, in Hold my beer - Bungie
@ArugulaZ@kbin.social avatar

Yeesh. More like bung_hole_, amirite?

xyguy,
sculd, in Hold my beer - Bungie

WHAT! This is very scummy, especially on the company shares part. Basically robbing employees of their money.

Asafum,

I really don’t understand in what universe this is not considered theft?

Wage theft is #1 in terms of total $ amount stolen out of all forms of theft, but business owners own government so… 🤷

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