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PugJesus, in Stockholm on 'H-Day', when Sweden swapped from driving on the left-side of the road to the right, 1967
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rustyriffs, in Woman strikes a Swedish neonazi with her handbag, 1985

Yo, what do you guys think she was packin in that bag?! 🤣

downpunxx, in Woman strikes a Swedish neonazi with her handbag, 1985
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The world according the Fediverse : Nazis, bad, Muslim Terrorist Jew Rapers, Killers, and Burners, good. Those poor poor "palestinian" cinnamon rolls, oh come here lemme help you up, what did those bad Jews do to you now. The cognitive dissonance and purposeful selective outrage, kills Jews. Always has, always will.

ashok36,

Fuck off, Nazi.

PugJesus,
@PugJesus@kbin.social avatar

Racist trolling is not welcome here.

roguetrick,

Your nonsense almost makes me want to leave Kbin because even when you get banned on other communities instances I still have to read your nonsensical prattle about how you want to genocide Palestinians.

Silverseren, in Woman strikes a Swedish neonazi with her handbag, 1985

That picture is beautiful. Taken at just the right perfect moment.

teft, in Woman strikes a Swedish neonazi with her handbag, 1985
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I believe the Dead Kennedys said it best:

Nazi punks fuck off.

downpunxx,
@downpunxx@kbin.social avatar

Nazis and Islamofascist Jew Killers fuck off

Ado,

And Zionist genociders taking queues from nazis fuck off

downpunxx,
@downpunxx@kbin.social avatar

lol, in the 70 years the Arabs have been getting you to scream "Genocide", the "Palestinian" headcount has increased a hundred fold. A miracle by anyone's estimation, wouldn't you say.

Ado,

Arabs haven’t gotten me to scream anything, the Israelis and their actions have. And you’re exactly right, they continue to ethnically cleanse the area like good little Nazis.

roguetrick,

The Dicks also had a good position
https://piped.video/watch?v=lUI2kZVR6W8

selokichtli, in Woman strikes a Swedish neonazi with her handbag, 1985

That stance is awesome. You can make a whole King of Fighters character solely from it. More in context, I hope that guy didn’t react very nazi-like against her.

Successful_Try543, in Woman strikes a Swedish neonazi with her handbag, 1985

She got honoured with a monument in Alingsås for exactly this. There is also an Wikipedia article about this incidence.

watersnipje,

“The Old Woman with the Handbag”

38-year-old woman

Konstant,

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  • nilloc,

    She easily looks 5-10 years older than my wife and I. And we’re in our mid 40s. But that still wouldn’t make her an old lady at this point.

    SgtAStrawberry,

    I’m happy to hear that the statu finally was put up. There was so much debate and arguments about it, mostly about it encouraging violence especially if taken out of context and also her still living family being unhappy with the portraition of her.

    I remember the debates but I never actually heard how it ended.

    zigmus64,

    The statue is awesome, but it fails to capture the hatred and aggression in the photo.

    LetMeEatCake,

    Yeah I was going to say, the statue didn’t capture her facial expression.

    ashok36,

    The statue is titled, “The Old Woman with the Handbag”.

    The woman in the picture was 38 when it was taken. The artist made her look older for some reason.

    ObviouslyNotBanana,
    @ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world avatar

    I think it’s just time doing its thing. The artist probably saw her as old because she dressed like an old person dressed in 2015.

    odradek,

    I don’t think she was particularly youthful-looking in 1985 either tbh.

    ObviouslyNotBanana,
    @ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world avatar

    Probably not, no, but I can’t see what else lead to the name. The artist must just have assumed due to clothing and style.

    odium,

    The man hit by Danielsson was identified as Seppo Seluska, a militant from the Nordic Realm Party later convicted for the torture and murder of a gay Jew.

    Of course he did.

    PeleSpirit,

    The left was different there

    Runesson’s photograph was published the next day on the front page of the Swedish national newspaper Dagens Nyheter, and on April 15 by two British newspapers, The Times and The Daily Express.[3] Another photograph taken by Runesson during the event shows the 10 Neo-Nazis being chased, pelted with eggs and violently confronted by a crowd made up of hundreds of attendants of the left-wing rally joined by local Växjö residents. One of the Neo-Nazis was kicked unconscious on the ground, then saved by one of the protestors who reportedly took pity on him. The far-right activists eventually managed to shelter in the toilets of the city’s train station, hiding there for a few hours until the police transported them away.[3][5]

    SkyeStarfall,

    Back then Nazis were nearly universally understood as bad. Especially since there still were many living survivors of the Nazi’s genocide.

    If this happened today, the left would get endless criticism. But I fully agree we should bring this back.

    PeleSpirit,

    I think hitting them with a purse, throwing eggs and making them hide in toilets is fine, but the unconscious thing isn’t something I would recommend. They probably already have brain damage, they’re nazis.

    IHaveTwoCows,

    You do not understand the assignment

    Successful_Try543,

    They understood how talking to nazis needs to be done.

    Tammo-Korsai,
    @Tammo-Korsai@kbin.social avatar

    B-but it's literally Nazism to refuse to tolerate Nazis!!!1! (Never mind the fact that tolerance would be the thirst thing to go in a Nazi-dominated society.)

    PugJesus, in Woman strikes a Swedish neonazi with her handbag, 1985
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    I hope whatever was in the handbag was heavy and hard.

    RubberElectrons,
    @RubberElectrons@lemmy.world avatar

    Batteries. And M20 nuts.

    Annoyed_Crabby,

    That’s a big nut.

    RubberElectrons,
    @RubberElectrons@lemmy.world avatar

    Meh, that guy looks midsized.

    z3rOR0ne,
    @z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml avatar

    Hopefully bricks. The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi, but a brain dead one incapable of doing anything is almost as good.

    notaviking, in South African diamond miner being x-rayed at the end of his shift to prevent theft, 1954

    You know we still xray people at diamond mines here in South Africa. Try visiting a De Beers mine and see for yourself.

    can,

    Try visiting a De Beers mine and see for yourself.

    I’m depressed enough as it is thank you.

    MystikIncarnate,

    Daily x-rays… Seems like that won’t have any impact to long term survival.

    What a humane way to prevent theft.

    Kethal,

    Yeah, I was wondering whether this was worse for the miners or the examiner. I’m sure that today modern technology protects the examiner more thoroughly and that they still don’t care about the miners. But I could be wrong. Maybe they don’t care about the examiner either.

    UnspecificGravity,

    My grandfather died in his 50s likely due to constant exposure from industrial xrays in the 50s and 60s. He was a college educated white guy in the US, so I’m guessing they give even fewer fucks about these guys.

    MystikIncarnate,

    I’m sorry for your loss.

    This is the reason why you can only get so many medical scans per year, to limit exposure. I’m sure the corporations who are running the equipment for non-medical reasons couldn’t give less of a shit, since caring doesn’t usually drive profits.

    It’s truly horrendous and should have never been allowed.

    PugJesus,
    @PugJesus@kbin.social avatar

    Really? Jesus. I would have expected such a thing to have long died out.

    Elliott,

    The practice of x-raying or the worker?

    boatsnhos931,

    Bof

    kadu,
    @kadu@lemmy.world avatar

    Mining is one of the most grotesque industries: child labor, slave labor, water contamination, entire ecosystems being destroyed, workers getting contaminated with everything you could imagine.

    ChaoticNeutralCzech,

    All for diamonds that can be created with chemical deposition for cheaper.

    loki,

    “A Diamond is forever” ad campaign really fucked the perception of diamonds.

    eran_morad, in South African diamond miner being x-rayed at the end of his shift to prevent theft, 1954

    Jesus fuck.

    HerbalGamer, in South African diamond miner being x-rayed at the end of his shift to prevent theft, 1954

    Remember kids, these are the kind of things that got Elon his money

    Cloudkid,

    I don’t like Elon Musk, his buyout of Twitter was horibble and I don’t agree with many stuff he says, that begin said

    story about Musk’s father once owning an emerald mine evolved into a larger rumor that had no evidence to support its central claim. Source

    Anticorp,

    Of course Elongated disputes it, he enjoys the fantasy that he’s a self made man.

    Spacebar,
    @Spacebar@lemmy.world avatar

    I have a filter on Sync to not see Musk content, yet somehow he keeps leaking in.

    On Lemmy, it’s like a party game to see where you can get Musk into a thread.

    ruckblack,

    I don’t think sync has filtered comments yet, which is annoying. I still see hexbear garbage in the comments sometimes.

    tja,
    @tja@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Indeed, not a whole emerald mine, the same source:

    We located reporting from as far back as 2009 and 2014 that said when Elon Musk (“Elon” hereafter) was a child in South Africa in the 1980s, his father (“Errol” hereafter) at some point owned “a stake in an emerald mine” near Lake Tanganyika in Zambia, not South Africa.

    umbrella,
    @umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

    his father literally confirmed he had an emerald mine

    kadu,
    @kadu@lemmy.world avatar

    His father openly admitted it himself. No primary source will be better than the culprit himself.

    BossDj,

    According to the article, the “rumor” started in 2014 when Elon went on an interview tour and SAID that his dad had an emerald mine to multiple publications. He told an elaborate story to one about riding in his dad’s plane full of emeralds and ak-47s

    The research couldn’t find financial proof of any claimed debt, since Elon won’t provide any. But “hand shake” deals about illegal emerald smuggling tends not to have a paper trail.

    Then, a year after this article came out, Elon tweeted “I’ll give a million doge to anyone who can prove it existed” and his dad replied that it existed and that Elon had been there.

    Errol also went on an interview tour (after this article was posted) and told multiple publications that he did own a share of an emerald mining business. But Elon wasn’t lying because it technically wasn’t in a hole, but an outcropping!

    Since changing his mind on the subject, Elon had since only admitted that his start up was supported by selling his own PC for 2k, a 5k gift from his “bro” and 8k from some other guy. But later a SmAaLL LoAn (as they like to say) of 200k from his dad and others. But that was later, you guys.

    ComicalMayhem,

    Got any links for this? Would love to read more on it.

    BossDj,

    Everything I said was noted in the original source (including getting money from his dad, his own claims of being extremely wealthy, etc) but Elon’s subsequent tweet offering money for evidence and his dad replying to confirm that he owned one was great hilarity that I first saw on Reddit directly linking to Twitter.

    Here’s a good breakdown, including interview with Errol describing the mine: thedailybeast.com/elon-musks-dad-errol-shares-dea…

    This might have been his first interview calling out Elon on the tweet: the-sun.com/…/elon-musks-dad-errol-emerald-busine…

    Steeve, (edited )

    I don’t get why people focus on the emerald mine aspect. Turning 200k into billions would be impressive regardless of where the initial cash came from, if he wasn’t just some lucky schmuck who’s shitty website got bought out in the Dotcom bubble.

    Edit: Yikes, goes to show that Lemmy users can’t finish reading a comment lol

    BossDj,

    Where is this goalpost exactly?

    Steeve,

    What?

    BossDj,

    Welp we had “Elon used emerald money” then “no evidence of that!” To “Here’s evidence” and your thought “Well is wasn’t much!”

    Very apologist.

    It’s never surprising to me when billionaires had wealthy parents. Hiding money is their jam.

    Steeve, (edited )

    I’m not the person you replied to initially, I never said he didn’t have emerald money. Lol did you think it’s just you and one other person on the internet?

    And apologist? The fuck are you talking about, my point is that Elon Musk is a fucking loser that won the lottery in the Dotcom bubble. Websites aren’t expensive, he didn’t need capital. He’s a narcissist who got lucky and mistook it for genius.

    But seriously, can you people really not read two sentences before deciding someone is a “billionaire apologist”? Jesus dude.

    BossDj,

    Hey Mr. “Everyone is stupid but me”,

    1. “I don’t get why people focus on the emerald mine” and “Turning 200k into billions would be impressive no matter where the money came from” – both are things you said, both excuse the things we were talking about. Yes you called him a dip shit too. But apparently an impressive one.
    2. I know you weren’t the initial comment, but this is a thread, which means you’re continuing a conversation. Away from the cruel exploitation of emeralds mines to who cares and he’s an impressive dip shit.
    3. We’ll never know if 200k to billions is impressive because nobody else gets to have a 200k loan from their dad except wealthy people
    Steeve,

    Nope, just you.

    1. I actually didn’t call him impressive. My quote: “would be impressive […], if he wasn’t […]”. But it is impressive that Elon Musk triggers so much rage in you that you can’t even read a comment that’s agreeing with you on what a fuck he is.
    2. Have you ever actually had a conversation or do you just argue back and forth? This is how it works, you thread to related topics. This is a related topic.
    3. Business loans don’t only come from a parent lol. Obviously the wealthy are born with a privilege that no bank loan can match, but there are wealthy entrepreneurs that didn’t start off with rich parents. There are also plenty of entrepreneurs that didn’t turn 200k into billions. I think we can pretty safely deduce that an ROI of 6 orders of magnitude is not standard practice, regardless of who your parents are. But again, you’re missing my point, that this “impressive feat” was actually all just dumb fucking luck.
    BossDj,
    1. “Nope just you” – You accused a dozen people who voted you down of not being able to read. You specifically said Lemmy users can’t read, so maybe the entire user base? By the way I didn’t vote down anything. You also tossed in a “you people” for good measure.
    2. The “…” part dismisses the important bit of "regardless of where it came from. So it’s not read as “would be … if” but instead “would be … regardless” which might be everyone’s confusion by your comment?
    3. Which doesn’t continue the conversation, but dismisses it.
    4. I’m sure there are plenty of people getting 200k dollar loans out there. Vast vast majority? Nah. That’s the “we” I’m talking about. It at least seems like each billionaire came from rich families, even though it’s trendy to pretend they’re self made, but we can’t prove anything either way because it’s all hidden. Self made with Harvard connections for the win!

    Oh, and yes I hate Elon Musk, like anyone who is using their power/influence to cause harm to others. Dude’s attacking Wikipedia right now for fucks sake.

    Have fun out there and stay safe

    Steeve,

    People pile on downvotes before they finish reading a comment, welcome to the internet. If you think downvotes mean anything then you must be real new around here. But the bizarre part is that you’re still arguing like I’m disagreeing with you lol. You pretty much just expanded on what I said about wealth privilege in #4 in an argumentative strawmaney way to make an entirely different point than where we started, so who’s moving goalposts?

    BossDj,

    Got it, downvotes are random from stupid people who don’t read I guess. Except that time it was “just me” then it went back to the others, too, again.

    Instead of arguing that you disagreed, I offered a suggestion of why (now 22 people) thought you were being dismissive or apologist or otherwise didn’t like your comment (unless they’re all just stupid and can’t read).

    And replying to your thought on “plenty of entrepreneurs” is a strawman? You brought it up. I was talking about getting money from family. The ones who had college paid for and got family loans and pretend to be self made. Then you brought up bank loans and entrepreneurs. So I did what you said and continued the thread. Websites like to make lists of handfuls of people who didn’t do it with connections.

    Anticorp,

    Not things like this, this exactly. He’s the trust fund baby of an apartheid era emerald mine baron.

    mvuvi, in South African diamond miner being x-rayed at the end of his shift to prevent theft, 1954
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    Galton introduced fingerprinting in South Africa as an experiment after Indians introduced it to him. Managing miners using fingerprints was one of those moments capitalism and colonialism converged on science and technology and shaped the global sector we now call identification.

    For more, read The Biometric State by Keith Breckinridge.

    Tar_alcaran, (edited ) in South African diamond miner being x-rayed at the end of his shift to prevent theft, 1954

    You might be thinking that getting an x-ray every day is bad for the miners, but this is a ye-olde look through machine. Yes it’s bad for the miners, but the guy looking at it is putting his face and uppee body right in the beam here. And I’m guessing he does hundreds of these a day.

    Then again, old timey x-ray machines were pretty soft, so (edit) AND the miner is getting big dose of alpha and beta radiation too. And at least the technician isn’t breathing coal dust, so it’s probably a toss up who gets cancers first.

    zzzz,

    Nah, the real contest is who gets the most cancer. Gotta catch 'em all!

    nul,

    Cancer speedrun any%

    AnUnusualRelic,
    @AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

    but the guy looking at it is putting his face and uppee body right in the beam here

    Ah, but he’s wearing gloves, so he’ll be fine.

    TonyTonyChopper,
    @TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz avatar

    X-ray tubes, old and new, use high energy electrons that impact a metal to create the beam. Alpha and beta emission is from radioactive decay which is an entirely different phenomenon. But yes bathing your body in X-rays is bad for you

    Tar_alcaran,

    Sorry, I had a brainfart there. You’re completely right.

    The tube itself emits xrays, but soft xrays have a very high chance of being absorbed by Carbon, Nitrogen and Oxygen. And since that’s mostly what makes up a human, that’s kinda bad.

    Also he’s digging up diamonds, which is in rocks full of radioactive materials. Diamond mine tailings are famously radioactive (and interesting) due all the thorium and radium in them.

    logicbomb,

    Both people in this picture are being abused by the company. The difference is that the company also lets the white guy abuse the black guy, and for that reason, the white guy feels superior.

    This is one of those things you see in fascist governments. As long as people are able to abuse someone, they’ll accept a much worse station as well as a lot of abuse themselves.

    livus,
    @livus@kbin.social avatar

    @Tar_alcaran ... if the miners even lived long enough to get cancer.

    Diamond miners during Apartheid were working in unsafe conditions for ridiculously low wages, often coerced into being there, and at relatively high risk of tuberculosis.

    LazaroFilm, in South African diamond miner being x-rayed at the end of his shift to prevent theft, 1954
    @LazaroFilm@lemmy.world avatar

    Wow this machine can also detect cancers of you use it long enough.

    Tar_alcaran,

    100% accuracy with enough attempts!

    Successful_Try543,

    Tbf. back then it was not uncommon to xray ones feet in a shoe store to see if the new shoes fit.

    PugJesus,
    @PugJesus@kbin.social avatar

    Cause of cancer: too many shoes

    LazaroFilm,
    @LazaroFilm@lemmy.world avatar

    Now the state of California requires a warning label on shoes.

    HubertManne,
    @HubertManne@kbin.social avatar

    WHAT!

    Successful_Try543,

    In this article you can find a photo.

    HubertManne,
    @HubertManne@kbin.social avatar

    holy crap but makes sense. When I was a kid they did not initially use the lead covers and then later they did. Seems like between 70 and 80 they started treating them much more seriously.

    AlbertSpangler,

    And then someone pointed out the little measuring machine with the sliding parts on the ruler works just as well without the whole “staring into a primary x-ray beam all day” thing

    user224,
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    Empricorn, in British blacksmith on an anti-slavery patrol boat removing leg irons from a freed slave off the coast of Mozambique, 1907

    Actual badasses.

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