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xusontha, in Can someone help explain this Rule 1 ban?

.ml got some goofy somewhat tankie mods, I know multiple people who got banned from .ml for bogus reasons lol

gerbilOFdoom, in Best way to clean up data on my lemmy Instance?

From a theory perspective alone, ignorant of Lemmy specifics: a database query can be made to list all cached images including a unique identifier for each image. Use this list to find each cached image.

Look at your cached image list and decide how you want to prune it. The most likely pattern for this system is FIFO, so prune the oldest cached data until you drop below the target disk usage.

In practice, you’ll likely use somebody else’s solution. Be sure to read the contents of their solution carefully to ensure it doesn’t move sensitive data to an externally accessible location or exfiltrate data directly.

rglullis, in Bug: people are posting paywalls & other exclusive walled gardens
@rglullis@communick.news avatar

The solution for that can be a whole lot simpler: add these features to the browser so that it works in favor of the users. I have extensions to redirect from YouTube/medium/Twitter, so these issues do not affect me regardless of website I am visiting.

activistPnk, (edited )

The browser (more appropriately named: client) indeed needs some of the logic here, but it cannot do the full job I’ve outlined. The metrics need to be centralized. And specifically when you say browser, this imposes an inefficient amount of effort & expertise on the end-user. A dedicated client can make it easy on the user. But it’s an incomplete solution nonetheless.

rglullis,
@rglullis@communick.news avatar

The metrics need to be centralized.

Why? And how would guarantee the integrity of the ones holding the metrics?

this imposes an inefficient amount of effort & expertise on the end-user.

A lot less effort than having to deal with the different “features” that each website admin decides to run on their own.

activistPnk, (edited )

Why?

  1. It’s a big database. It would be a poor design to replicate a db of all links in every single client.
  2. Synchronization of the db would not be cheap. When Bob says link X has anti-feature Y, that information must then be shared with 10s of thousands of other users.

Perhaps you have a more absolute idea of centralized. With Mastodon votes, they are centralized on each node but of course overall that’s actually decentralized. My bad. I probably shouldn’t have said centralized. I meant more centralized than a client-by-client basis. It’d be early to pin those details down at this point other than to say it’s crazy for each client to maintain a separate copy of that DB.

And how would guarantee the integrity of the ones holding the metrics?

The server is much better equipped than the user for that. The guarantee would be the same guarantee that you have with Mastodon votes. Good enough to be fit for purpose. For any given Mastodon poll everyone sees a subset of votes. But that’s fine. Perfection is not critical here. You wouldn’t want it to decide a general election, but you don’t need that level of integrity.

A lot less effort than having to deal with the different “features” that each website admin decides to run on their own.

That doesn’t make sense. Either one person upgrades their Lemmy server, or thousands of people have to install, configure, and maintain a dozen different browser plugins ported to a variety of different browsers (nearly impossible enough to call impossible). Then every Lemmy client also has to replicate that complexity.

FelipeFelop, in Posts being auto-removed or auto-hidden
@FelipeFelop@discuss.online avatar

It is odd that community bans don’t come with any communication.

Stamets,
@Stamets@lemmy.ml avatar

Oh it was an instance ban. Not a community ban.

I wouldn’t say odd so much as “inconsiderate” and “petty”. The modlog of the community I was posting to showed zero removals or problems. It was the modlog of the instance as a whole. So it wasn’t even easy to find in the first place. Top that off with wildly inconsistent meanings of the rules. Their rule 1 is “Don’t be bigoted/racist/sexist/etc”. Hilarious given they removed an anti-homophobia post for that. They removed another post where the meme was “If you don’t respond my trans homies I’ll change your pronouns to was/were”. That was removed for rule 2. To “Be respectful.”

The extreme lack of communication by moderation, the lack of warnings, the lack of any consistency, and the hypocrisy is beyond rank. When you’re removing posts protecting trans people because it’s “Not respectful” or when you’re removing posts shaming Disney for homophobia then it only goes to show how utterly repugnant, backwards, backhanded, nonsensical, and dishonest the moderation and admins teams are on lemmy.ml.

This is the last comment I’m ever making on this instance. You’ll never see my main account here again or this account ever be used again. I don’t trust the people here. Especially when doing some research and it seems that lemmy.ml got co-opted by lemmygrad and is slowly turning into hexbear 2.0.

I go out of my way to be polite, kind, considerate and to listen to others. If someone had an issue and they wanted to talk then I’d be here. The mods and admins never did that. Never even thought of doing it. That is some wildly reddit behavior and it’s specifically what I left reddit to avoid. It’s also what I’ll be avoiding at all possible costs on lemmy.

dessalines, in Why is join lemmy promoting a pedophile instance?

Sry about that yall, I was out today.

Its gone now thx to @SleeplessOne1917 .

Any admins as well as anyone that runs instance discoverers / crawlers like join-lemmy.org be sure to update your blocklists,.

Edit: In the future if anyone could make PR’s to this file, we’ll try to get to them ASAP.

Darkassassin07, in If I apply a tag to myself, can other users see it?
@Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca avatar

Nothing on this post, and your profile looks like this from Jerboa:

https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/00d1b3ac-597e-4704-9014-21c6f8367447.jpeg

No tags I can see

moosetwin,
@moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

dang

isVeryLoud, in How do I make my community text only?

As a workaround for now, you could make a bot to enforce the rules. It would delete any post containing an image or an embedded link to an image.

ProdigalFrog, (edited ) in Is everything alright for slrpnk.net?

For anyone still not able to access slrpnk.net, here’s a copy of the help thread in the slrpnk meta community:

It seems like there is an issue with the upgrade from Lemmy version 0.18.5 to 0.19.2 where the old login cookies are not accepted any longer and right now the only way to fix it is to manually delete the old cookies for slrpnk.net from your browser storage and log in again.

For Firefox: Settings > Privacy & Security > Manage Data… > Deleting Slrpnk.net

For Chrome: Settings > Privacy and Security > Third-party cookies > See all site data and permissions > Search for slrpnk.net > Click trashcan icon

For Edge: Settings > Cookies and site permissions > manage and delete cookies and site data > See all cookies and site data > Search for Slrpnk.net > Click little ‘v’ dropdown arrow > Click trashcan icon

For mobile apps: Log out fully and log back in again.

The Lemmy devs identified the issue and it will require another bugfix release that will hopefully happen soon.

willya, in Logs are getting spammed with stacktraces "WARN Error encountered while processing the incoming HTTP request: lemmy_server::root_span_builder: Unknown:"
@willya@lemmyf.uk avatar

Any reason for not going to 0.19.2?

haui_lemmy,

no, just that I’ve read that it is discouraged to put the compose files to “latest” so they get updated periodically. I updated a day or two before 0.19.2 came out I believe.

bjoern_tantau,
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

0.19.0 and 0.19.1 had a bunch of nasty bugs. You should update.

haui_lemmy,

Okay! Thank you! Will do.

sunaurus,
@sunaurus@lemm.ee avatar

Did the upgrade solve it for you?

haui_lemmy,

I have started changing the compose file to upgrade but the changes are more extensive than I thought, more commands and other additions so I had to pause until I have more time (tomorrow or the day after I hope). Thanks for asking though. :)

haui_lemmy,

So I performed the upgrade and it bricked my install completely. The reason seems to be that something cant handle png icons and after about 4 hrs of working on it, searching and trying different approaches, the site is now back online. Now I need to take an extended break and tomorrow I might check if the error messages are gone. I did find some of the same in the log just a couple mins ago so I dont think this has helped. I might have to turn off backtraces so its less convoluted.

Shadow, in "Post has been removed"...on a different server?
@Shadow@lemmy.ca avatar

I’m curious which post it was? Dm me it if you want.

Is lemmy.world automod a mod on that community on lemmy.ca?

swordgeek, (edited )

I don’t think there’s a problem with posting it here. I didn’t do that initially because I wasn’t trying to draw attention to the post as much as I was trying to understand how it all worked.

And in answer to your question, no the automod is not a moderator on the community.

Shadow, (edited )
@Shadow@lemmy.ca avatar

Wtf, why the hell is their automod touching posts in a community on our instance. They’re not the mods of the entire fediverse.

swordgeek,

Yeah, but from what the good folks in this thread have said, their automod deleted the post only on their instance. It’s untouched on lemmy.ca, and any others that federate with us.

(I think.)

Shadow,
@Shadow@lemmy.ca avatar

That’s correct, but it still irks me.

Controlling what your users see via defederation or blocking a community is public, but users aren’t going to notice the occasional post disappearing.

It’s manipulative in a non obvious way, and prone to being abused.

swordgeek,

That’s a very good point. What may be a neutral (or biased for that matter) community ‘at home,’ can be invisibly skewed on another instance by their administrators. That’s actually a bit concerning.

Muehe, (edited )

Ah with that link it’s easy to track down what happened.

First you go to the community on the server in question: lemmy.world/c/alberta@lemmy.ca

Then you click on Modlog in the sidebar: lemmy.world/modlog/3835

And since there is pretty much nothing in it we immediately see the entry for your post saying:

reason: Deceptive content. Calling to abuse government system.

Note that when you compare your servers Modlog that entry is missing there, so yes, only removed for people connecting through lemmy.world.

Not sure how appeals work there, you can probably reply to the account that notified you, or go to the !support community.

swordgeek,

This is fantastic information! The things I’m learning from one deleted post are remarkable!

The account that notified me is an unmonitored auto-mod account, which says “don’t reply - nobody will read it!”

I might actually post in !support on this one. Thanks for the info.

zeppo, in "Post has been removed"...on a different server?
@zeppo@lemmy.world avatar

From what I understand, yes, moderation is not federated. That’s good in that instances can enforce their own mod standards, but it also means spam/harmful content has to be removed by each server individually.

No idea if there’s an appeal process but you could ask on the lemmy.world support community.

Max_P,
@Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me avatar

Moderation does federate out, but only from the originating instance, the one that owns the post on question.

If someone post spam on lemmy.ca and lemmy.world deletes it, it only deletes on lemmy.world. If a mod or admin on lemmy.ca deletes it however, it federates and everyone deletes it as a result (unless modified to ignore deletions, but by default Lemmy will accept it).

There’s some interoperability problems with some software, notably Kbin where their deletions don’t federate to Lemmy correctly, so those do need to be moderated by every instance. But between Lemmy instances it does federate.

netburnr, in Quick And Easy To Host Lemmy And Other Federated Communities
@netburnr@lemmy.world avatar

How are you handling mail?

duck1e,

mail requires reputation to work properly and not land in spam. i don’t have mail services for now but that can configured by the user to work with something like mailgun or personal gmail account.

am working with oss saas like lemmy, mattermost, matrix for now

netburnr,
@netburnr@lemmy.world avatar

I think you misunderstood. Lemmy user validation uses mail. Howndoes your SaaS handle that.

duck1e,

oh, that kind of thing is handeled in the basic lemmy config file. I have a smtp server container deployed along with pict-rs, postgresql lemmy and lemmy-ui so you can use email verification and deploy full featured lemmy install :)

nutomic, in Question about modlog entities in the Lemmy API
@nutomic@lemmy.ml avatar

Looks like this is just wrongly named, maybe it was copy pasted from the community ban. Probably not worth the trouble to fix it, as it would be a breaking change for clients.

CmdrKeen,
@CmdrKeen@lemmy.today avatar

Yeah, I wasn’t asking for a fix, just for an explanation.

768, in Question about the federation system

If understood it correctly, there is some loop in a newer version that prevents correct federation. feddit.de was used in the example.

bjoern_tantau, (edited ) in 0.19.1 bug I'm moderator everywhere
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

I see this as well. But maybe it applies only to your own instance where you are an administrator. I will try locking this post for comments.

BTW: It only just now arrived at my instance.

Edit: Yeah, it isn’t stickied at lemmy.ml/post/9847234

Loulou,

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