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TootSweet, in A new way of fishing

The new season of River Monsters is way lower budget seems like.

ieightpi, in this AI thing

Can we stop calling this shit AI? It has no intelligence

Snowpix,
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Exactly. It’s a language learning and text output machine. It doesn’t know anything, its only ability is to output realistic sounding sentences based on input, and will happily and confidently spout misinformation as if it is fact because it can’t know what is or isn’t correct.

QuaternionsRock,

it’s a learning machine

Should probably use a more careful choice of words if you want to get hung up on semantic arguments

caseyweederman,

Sounds pretty much identical to human beings to me

EnderMB,

That’s why we preface it with Artificial.

BluesF,

But it isn’t artificial intelligence. It isn’t even an attempt to make artificial “intelligence”. It is artificial talking. Or artificial writing.

EnderMB,

In that case I’m not really sure what you’re expecting from AI, without getting into the philosophical debate of what intelligence is. Most modern AI systems are in essence taking large datasets and regurgitating the most relevant data back in a relevant form.

regbin_,

This is what AI actually is. Not the super-intelligent “AI” that you see in movies, those are fiction.

The NPC you see in video games with a few branches of if-else statements? Yeah that’s AI too.

Willer,

No companies are only just now realizing how powerful it is and are throttling the shit out of its capabilities to sell it to you later :)

Marzepansion,

“we purposefully make it terrible, because we know it’s actually better” is near to conspiracy theory level thinking.

The internal models they are working on might be better, but they are definitely not making their actual product that’s publicly available right now shittier. It’s exactly the thing they released, and this is its current limitations.

This has always been the type of output it would give you, we even gave it a term really early on, hallucinations. The only thing that has changed is that the novelty has worn off so you are now paying a bit more attention to it, it’s not a shittier product, you’re just not enthralled by it anymore.

UndercoverUlrikHD,
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Researchers have shown that the performance of the public GPT models have decreased, likely due to OpenAI trying to optimise energy efficiency and adding filters to what they can say.

I don’t really care about why it, so I won’t speculate, but let’s not pretend the publicly available models aren’t purposefully getting restricted either.

Marzepansion, (edited )

likely due to OpenAI trying to optimise energy efficiency and adding filters to what they can say.

Which is different than

No companies are only just now realizing how powerful it is and are throttling the shit out of its capabilities to sell it to you later :)

One is a natural thing that can happen in software engineering, the other is malicious intent without facts. That’s why I said it’s near to conspiracy level thinking. That paper does not attribute this to some deeper cabal of AI companies colluding together to make a shittier product, but enough so that they all are equally more shitty (so none outcompete eachother unfairly), so they can sell the better version later (apparently this doesn’t hurt their brand or credibility somehow?).

but let’s not pretend the publicly available models aren’t purposefully getting restricted either.

Sure, not all optimizations are without costs. Additionally you have to keep in mind that a lot of these companies are currently being kept afloat with VC funding. OpenAI isn’t profitable right now (they lost 540 million last year), and if investments go in a downturn (like they have a little while ago in the tech industry), then they need to cut costs like any normal company. But it’s magical thinking to make this malicious by default.

WindowsEnjoyer,

It’s artificial.

ieightpi, (edited )

Sadly the definition of artificial still fits the bill. Even if it’s still a bit misleading and most poeple will associate Artificial Intelligence with something akin to HAL 9000

Klear,

I will continue calling it “shit AI”.

ieightpi,

I like it too haha

might_steal_your_cat,

There are many definitions of AI (eg. there is some mathematical model used), but machine learning (which is used in the large language models) is considered a part of the scientific field called AI. If someone says that something is AI, it usually means that some technique from the field AI has been applied there. Even though the term AI doesn’t have much to do with the term intelligence as most of the people perceive it, I think the usage here is correct. (And yes, the whole scientific field should have been called differently.)

Siegfried,

Mass effects lore differences between virtual intelligence and artificial intelligence, the first one is programmed to do shit and say things nicely, the second one understands enough to be a menace to civilization… always wondered if this distinction was actually accepted outside the game.

*Terms could be mixed up cause I played in German (VI and KI)

marzhall,

Lol, the AI effect in practice - the minute a computer can do it, it’s no longer intelligence.

A year ago if you had told me you had a computer program that could write greentexts compellingly, I would have told you that required “true” AI. But now, eh.

In any case, LLMs are clearly short of the “SuPeR BeInG” that the term “AI” seems to make some people think of and that you get all these Boomer stories about, and what we’ve got now definitely isn’t that.

EatYouWell,

The AI effect can’t be a real thing since true AI hasn’t been done yet. We’re getting closer, but we’re definitely not in the positronic brain stage yet.

ignotum,

“true AI”

AI is just “artificial intelligence”, there are no strict criterias defining what is “true” AI and not,

Do the LLM models show an ability to reason and problem solve? Yes

Are they perfect? No

So what?

Ironically your comment sounds like yet another example of the AI effect

originalucifer, in Back in my day
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i suspect its been replaced with stumbling upon tentacle porn or 'whats this goatse' when youre 10.

Sheeple, (edited )
@Sheeple@lemmy.world avatar

Stumbled upon Spyro porn when I was 11.

Now I’m 25 and a massive furry degenerate.

Good riddance. Children should not be on the internet unsupervised

FlyingSquid,
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outer_spec,
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I used to be a big fan of Eevee and the eeveeloutions so I looked them up on DeviantArt and saw fetish art of a Flareon getting its toes tickled by a torture device. I didn’t know what fetishes were at the time and assumed it was a silly joke about how painful it is to get tickled. (I was very ticklish as a child.)

samus12345,
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IanSomnia, (edited ) in Back in my day

My neighbor had so many weird yet charming movies we didn’t have in our house. There was this one where I think an English man took care of an otter for some reason? It was also at this neighbor’s house that I first saw Monty Python and the Holy Grail for the first time. We had those 1am sillies and were in a permanent giggle fit.

idunnololz, in Fishing
@idunnololz@lemmy.world avatar

Me.

FlyingSquid, in Back in my day
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My father was a film historian. We had so many obscure movies on tape. I’ve seen tons and tons of movies, although not in the last 10-15 years in terms of recent ones.

I used to have a party trick where I would have someone open a random page of Leonard Maltin’s movie guide and start listing titles and I could almost always summarize the plot of at least one.

Xirup, in Todd Hernandez has a recommendation for you

I think you will enjoy it muchísimo* 🤓

simple,

Starting to get suspicious of this todd fellow, he doesn’t sound too spanish to me…

GrammatonCleric,
@GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world avatar

HOW DARE YOU ASSUME HIS CULTURE

pinkdrunkenelephants, in Funny how it became bathroom use and imaginary things drag queens do...

It’s good they were wrong and the covid dictatorial bullshit fell out of vogue, though.

ShustOne,

You really think a dictator would just stop using power because it’s not stylish?

pinkdrunkenelephants,

Yes. People are that conformist and petty.

Ghostalmedia, in Prison
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Prison in Flavortown

EfreetSK, in Todd Hernandez has a recommendation for you
@EfreetSK@lemmy.world avatar

Hmm the guy sounds legit. I should check this “Skyrim” game

dylanTheDeveloper, in Corny
@dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world avatar

GTA 6

Viking_Hippie, in Would you like fries with that?

Personally, I greatly prefer the McFuckAround.

pivot_root,

The McFuckAround is nice up until the child support garnishments start showing up. After that, you’re stuck living with the Wendy’s Regrettinator.

Viking_Hippie,

I don’t mind, actually. Wendy deserves better after all those years putting up with a square…

dylanTheDeveloper, in A new way of fishing
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GTA 6

Cyclist, in Back in my day

My wife and I used to have Parents with Randy Quaid on VHS. I love that movie but I haven’t seen it in 20 years.

lostme, in The face of devastation.

She looks like he was a child before

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