We can absolutely live the life with same income, but without the grind. For that, we have to unionize and fight off hustle culture.
They want to make us work more for less, that’s all. And what’s gonna help it more than saying “you just a lazy shit who doesn’t work long enough, unlike N.”
Fuck them. We can afford to work less for more. It’s just that their wallets are gonna get hit this time, for real.
I didn’t mean it as poor, I meant it more in the terms of not rich… or at least not rich so that you can afford a new car every time your 2 year old BMW breaks down.
For example, it’s perfectly fine to own a condo, not a house. More than 70% of the world’s population lives in condos, yet in the US it’s frowned upon, or it’s OK, but if you’re single. Basically, condos are not good for raising children. I live in a condo with my wife and son and I have no plans to move to a house whatsoever. They’re way too expensive and I’d have to work my ass off to afford the downpayment for one. I’d rather spend that time with my child or just having a conversation with my friends or relatives. Work is not everything.
I get your sentiment (that you don’t need to we wealthy to be happy), but most definitions of “poverty” aren’t just “not rich”, they’re more “unable to afford basic means”, which there is a lot wrong with!
Can agree with that. And that is a system (social) problem, it’s not a human conditioning problem.
My point was, being rich is not good either. Ask how many rich people are happy, I mean truly happy. I bet the bunch in the image is having a better time than any rich person will ever have.
There is no way rich people are less happy than the average poor person bar mental health conditions, they may have stressors like a demanding job, but that is nothing compared to whether or not you’ll lose everything if you get too sick, or whether you can pay the bills because you didn’t get enough hours at one of your jobs, or if you have enough food to feed your family. Wealth gives so much more opportunity to fulfill desires and become happy.
Have you ever been actually poor? Have you ever been homeless or lived in a shelter? I can’t help but feel like your words may be that of privilege.
“Being rich is not good” is a very naive take. Being rich means less stress and more opportunities.
You’re all taking what I said to extremes… and I can understand why, there is no middle ground for a lot of things in this world, including the lower and upper middle class… you either have to be rich or be homeless.
That is essentially what’s wrong with today’s world. There is no middle anything.
Strong disagree. Massively worse health outcomes, food insecurity, lack of opportunity for children due to worse educational opportunities, and less opportunity to be what you want to be instead of simply survive all contribute to make poverty decidedly not “fine.”
Living in a world where you have to grind in order to make a comfortable living is wrong. The picture above just depicts what most of us are lacking in today’s world. And I think everyone feels the consiquences, just can’t pinpoint the problem. The system is the problem. We’re not meant to live like this.
You’re taking things way too litelarly in the image. The point is, not everything revolves around money. And there is nothing wrong with hand made furniture, at least they learned a thing or two by making it. It does the job, not everything has to be new and shiny. There is nothing wrong with recycling stuff or putting old things to better/new use.
And cold/hot can’t be depected in an image (it can… to an extent), maybe they just got wet in the rain and are trying to warm themselves up with blankets and a hot tea. That is how people used to warm themselves up, I still do that on a cold day, as I said, there is nothing wrong with that. Not everyone has to have an AC or a space heater.
Very serious question: have you ever, as an adult, lived in poverty?
Because I have, and I found absolutely nothing noble in it. There’s nothing morally superior about skipping meals so your kid can eat. It’s just sad and shitty.
That bear has an armoire and a fireplace. A cozy blanket for him and all his friends, and enough tea to share. He doesn’t even have fingers! Life is grand.
Well, not exactly. The debt is still there, they just can’t force you to pay it. Exceptions apply, like student loans, and they can probably still claim property in the case of bankruptcy or inheritance.
Not empty just extremely low. Low is worse then nothing. Good luck getting any credit after this. Then again, if the crypto actually grew, it may not matter. You would need at least half a million in profit to be worth all the effort of this scheme. Still only making about 70k a year at that level. Assuming you did 7 years and didn’t have to pay anything like prison rent. Seems like a bad investment.
Low is not worse than nothing with credit. Low credit means you exist. When you have no credit score everyone starts to question if you even exist. I may have personal experience with that.
Well it works where if it’s non government debt and you don’t pay for 7 years, it falls off your credit report. Of course if you had a car/home tied to it they would have taken it at that point.
But honestly at 5 years the collector will have mostly given it up and sold it to a debt collector for pennies on the dollar who call from time to time when they have nothing else to do.
Lmao yeah me trading an hour worth of work for a meal that I will consume is the same thing as me trading an hour of work for a nebulous pile of 1s and 0s and hoping some dipshit will pay 2 hours worth of work for them later
So you’re working in hope to get a nebulous pile of 1s and 0s or a some colorful pieces of paper. On top of that those numbers and papers have no intrinsic value, but are instead valuated by some dipshits and can become worthless overnight.
What’s your point there buddy?
Lmao yeah me trading an hour worth of work for a meal that I will consume is the same thing as me trading an hour of work for a nebulous pile of 1s and 0s and hoping some dipshit will pay 2 hours worth of work for them later
The money I work for has value because its almost entirely held in banks insured by the United States Federal Reserve and those dollars are backed by the full faith and credit of the United States. If that money becomes valueless overnight the whole world is in for a very rough time, and I definitely won’t be alone in my plight. You can’t say any of that about cryptocurrencies
Economics is simply a study in how to allocate scarce goods. It does not need to result in hoarding scarce goods in the hope of getting more for them later.
How many bubbles pop 3 three times and then proceed to blow up bigger than the last time? I know of exactly zero. Looks more like an adoption curve when expressed logarithmically
Adoption for what? There’s no indication that it’s becoming interconnected to the economy at large. Just the opposite, in fact. FTX, one of the biggest crypto banks, completely collapsed and the rest of the economy didn’t care. If it was Goldman Sachs or BoA, everyone would be sounding alarm bells, because they are actually integrated into the rest of the economy. Crypto just isn’t.
Adoption as a hedge against fiat debasement, primarily. FTX wasn’t a bank BTW, it was a shady exchange that mostly laundered money and stole customers’ funds. It was more analogous to a precious metal dealer like JM Bulion or similar, except run by criminals.
The purpose of crypto isn’t to integrate with the existing system anyway. The purpose is to provide a parallel system that isn’t subject to the kind of manipulation present in the legacy system. Unfortunately, crypto has become completely overrun with scammers and charlatans just looking to take advantage of rubes. The fundamental principals of Bitcoin are still intact in the code and network though, and IMO will win out simply because it is incorruptible and indestructible. The legacy system seems to have decided the same, and is currently adopting a ‘if you can’t beat em, join em’ attitude by pushing for ETF products to offer bitcoin to their customers though more traditional means.
I don’t expect my post to change anyone’s mind, but I would encourage anyone reading to look into why bitcoin has crashed multiple times and come roaring back each time.
Wait if you can avoid debt collectors for 7 years they just forget about you?? Like I could fuck off to another country where they can’t garner my wages and come back and they can’t do shit about it?
It’s not that clearcut: they have various tricks to keep it alive, if they know where you are. This is why you never admit to a debt nor pay the token amount they offer; both are tricking you into legally claiming responsibility, so they can keep the debt alive
Debt is super weird. In some cases you can have thousands very much just disappear after 7 years, in others they’ll hunt you down mercilessly over a $25 copay they mailed you a “this is not a bill” letter about 2 years ago. My wife was pretty deep in debt when we first started dating and I literally have seen both extremes and everything inbetween.
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