ElBarto, God I hate the idea of that being your last days… Why do people just purposely wander deep into caves?
snaprails, Who knows? Some people would crawl up their own colon if they could.
Rodeo, I know lots of people who crawl up their own ass
TriPolarBearz, Adventure log day 2: It has become increasingly dark, hot, and humid… And it smells like ass!
Sorgan71, its fun
boatsnhos931, I like snuggling up with a good book
RickyRigatoni, Fun.
HelixDab2, Honestly, they’re pretty neat. I’ve gone through tours of Mammoth Caves that require waivers, and they strongly recommend that you not take that tour if any part of you has a circumference of more than 42", because you won’t fit. There was a spot that was about 12" high, and 72-ish wide that you had to crawl through that took a sharp right; you had to take your helmet off to get through. But then you get out into this enormous cavern filled with rock formations that are seen by less 100 people/year.
But if I didn’t know that that crack was passable, that I’d be able to get through or get back out again? Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck no.
Jax, Maybe it’s because I live in a place with a lot of earthquakes, but I think I’m good off putting my head between rocks that could slightly shift and obliterate me.
But I’m glad you enjoy it!
HelixDab2, The Appalachian foothills in Kentucky are pretty geologically dead; there aren’t any fault lines anywhere close by. It’s about as safe as any cave network can be.
I do recommend going to that are and taking some tours, especially in the middle of summer where you can see the inversion layer where the air goes from being 95F to 60F. Even the fully-accessible tours that don’t go through any tight spaces are pretty cool.
Jax, (edited ) I don’t mind going inside caves, I just won’t be squishing myself into any crevices that require me to take off my safety gear to get through.
Granted, if it shifts your safety gear likely won’t do shit but still. I’ll stay in the bit of the cave where I can stand, or at least crouch/crawl.
fox2263, He most likely pissed himself on his face.
Necrosynthetik, Who hasn’t been waterboarded with their own piss?
fox2263, Ah but what if a nervous stomach (from being trapped upside down in the dark near death) provided some extra liquid for the water boarding
samus12345, Clothes probably soaked most of it up.
fox2263, Most. But not all
samus12345, He was in there so damn tight I doubt much if any liquid made it to his face. If he were that loose he could have just gotten out.
fox2263, (edited ) Doesn’t have to be a 360 snug fit. Jagged rock can still keep you in place. In fact look at the picture.
Piss, er, finds a way
starman2112, Don’t go in the hole
Llewellyn, That’s what she said
ultratiem, What I don’t get is neither path is very deep, so shining a light would reveal both dead ends. Can’t think of a worse way to go tho. And the fear and panic realizing you’re doomed.
Filthmontane, He likely got to a point where he couldn’t turn around so he decided to just push forward and hope there’s an exit.
AgentGrimstone, I remember seeing a video of a dude exploring a cave and he was crawling through some narrow ass space tighter than under my bed. Why would one want to do this??? What if it was a dead end? How tf are you gonna turn around? Crawl backwards? I just can’t with any of this
Kage520, Don’t forget the spiders
BilboBargains, You will never reap the rewards of being trapped under water for hours with that kind of attitude.
Rolando, The Eternal Reward, that is.
UFODivebomb, I used to go spelunking… I honestly can’t answer you. Kinda neat but mostly just being in the total dark in a tiny space surrounded by rocks.
On the plus side i can basically fall asleep in an MRI
XTornado, I don’t think the main problem to fall sleep in an MRI is the small space.
UFODivebomb, True. They are very noisy but the nurses all seem initially concerned with claustrophobia.
MeatsOfRage, How about this, there’s people that do this underwater. They take the tank off their back, push it out ahead of them. If they get stuck, they don’t have 27 hours to try and figure their shit out, they have a couple hours at best
dejected_warp_core, That’s where I draw the line.
Normal spelunking, minimal vertical work, the occasional belly crawl no smaller than a manhole. That’s actually a pretty good time. You get wet, dirty, have a few laughs with your friends, and then shake it off with some beers back at the campsite. No need to go aggressive with ridiculously tight crawls and/or 100’s of feet of vertical work, etc.
Cave diving? Let’s take an activity where it’s very easy to loose track of time, and add SCUBA which requires time management down to the minute for your health and survival. Nevermind getting lost, disoriented, or wedged underwater somewhere. I get that this is very intrepid stuff, and the very distant corners of cave systems are being explored this way. But it’s a big no for me; the risk does not justify the reward, IMO.
HelixDab2, SCUBA is even worse because any movement kicks up sediment, so that visibility quickly turns to nil. Cave diving has a very, very high mortality rate; BASE jumping is safer.
Willer, at least in a water cave you die with a predictable speed.
Gork, Not to mention unexpected currents that can either smack you against nearby rocks or sweep you further downward in an uncontrolled manner.
vsh, Same as sky jumping
Adrenaline.
user224, (edited ) I’ve seen such video. The dude struggled to move because he just barely fit in enough to still be able to breathe. There was water in there, and he said he has to return because it’s starting to fill with water.
Fill with water? Nope. Nope. Why would I go in such space.
Edit: Maybe this could be it: youtu.be/6Yf0gDzUMFA
https://youtu.be/6Yf0gDzUMFA
chiliedogg, Funny thing is I’m terrified of spelunking, but actively working towards being certified for cave diving.
Fill it with water and I’m interested!
I think part of it is that I can’t get stuck as easily with scuba gear strapped on my back, and I don’t have to worry about gravity fucking me over.
And I’ll never go anywhere that requires squeezing my fat ass through a crack.
electric_nan, I can relate. I did some cave diving in Mexico, and it was incredible. Having said that, there are some locations I would dive again, and some I definitely would not.
PopShark, Those guys got blessed by the algorithm or something I recognize the channel and video. Don’t know why YouTube decided I would be interested in spelunking but their videos are pretty entertaining at least. Personally I’ll take heights over tight spaces anyday.
grendel, I’ve watched quite a few of this guy’s videos, and I’m lead to believe that lots of his “wow this is really dangerous right now” moments are acted up. Maybe he gets into sketchy situations, but whatever he shows in the videos looks more like excuses to add a click-baity title without being outright click bait.
IHadTwoCows, 💯 this guy was white
negativeyoda, Probably still is
IHadTwoCows, Might be an ashy grey by now
ichbinjasokreativ, Because it’s a cave and not KFC?
Okkai, Buddy, not all Asians love KFC
NaoPb, The closest I’ll be getting to exploring a cave is playing Microsoft Adventure. I’m not getting into a cave, no sir.
ICastFist, I mean, the moment you see a passage that barely fits a child and you think to yourself “Hey, I should get in there!”, you’re just aiming to be the year’s winner of the Darwin Awards.
BilboBargains, It’s what I think on the rare occasions I get a look at my wife’s genitalia.
StopSpazzing, 🤣
TootSweet, (edited ) Fucked up cave stories? Fucked up cave stories.
This documentary by Internet Historian.
huginn, Someone hasn’t watched the latest hbomberguy video
TootSweet, (edited ) Er… nope. The one on plagerism? YouTube has recommended it to me a couple of times. (I just watched the roblox off sound video the other day, though.) I guess I’ll put that on my short list. I assume I’ll find out that Internet Historian committed a lot of plagerism in creating that “Man In Cave” video I linked?
Well that sucks. Internet Historian’s entertaining, but I’m not going to be bale to feel good about watching his stuff if that’s the case.
Kedly, Pretty much that yeah
huginn, Not just a lot of it: basically the entire thing was word for word lifted, followed by some really lazy find & replace
squiblet, I looked it up and it's almost 4 hours long. I'll be getting around to that I guess...
huginn, Yeah
He only talks about 3 youtubers in that video, no less.
drislands, (edited ) 4, if you can’t AVGN.
starman2112, Yeah, but AVGN himself didn’t actually plagiarize anyone, right? It’s the network in charge of his channel that did
drislands, Arguably yeah, but he’s still responsible for the content his channel produces.
pyre, (edited ) most of the video is about someone else. the video is split into sections so you can get to the “cave story” section immediately if you’re curious about that part. that section is about 25 minutes and worth watching (although I’d say the whole thing is interesting anyway). the section starts around 1h25m if you can’t see sections for some reason.
if you still want a tldw: the entire “documentary” was plagiarized, almost word for word, including the narrative structure.
threethan, Here’s the original article he plagiarized. Definitely worth a read mentalfloss.com/…/1925-cave-rescue-that-captivate…
samus12345, If anyone wants some nightmare fuel, here’s what happened.
cRazi_man, I searched for an watched a YouTube video about it…and I regret it immensely.
CluckN, I can’t wait for someone in 2077 to make a documentary about this by plagiarizing an article that goes hour by hour.
deus, I have a feeling that someone will later make a 4-hour-long video essay calling them out for it
Arelin, Okay this is clearly referencing something. Who is it
Moxvallix, Hbomberguy called out Internet Historian for blatant plagiarism.
Arelin, Internet Historian of all people? Well damn :(
drislands, Yeah, I was really disappointed to learn it too. It was blatant – the entire script is ripped from a well-written article about the experience, verbatim except for a few words swapped around.
HerbalGamer, Except he made it a lot more entertaining so it’s a case of I don’t care
matt1126, If he had gotten permission from the original author/site about dramatising and animating it I don’t think anyone would have had a problem. But taking someone else’s work and passing it off as your own without permission is what people are upset about.
flames5123, To his credit, this was the only found bit of plagiarism on his channel. The other channels he calls out are wayyyy worse. But it’s blatant word for word plagiarism.
FooBarrington, Not quite, Internet Historian also plagiarized parts of his Costa Concordia video. Did hbomberguy actually say that these were the only examples of plagiarism on his channel?
Zehzin, (edited ) IIRC he said it was the only plagiarism he found but I’m not skimming a 4 hour video to make sure.
FilthyHookerSpit, That wouldn’t be very nova, choom.
Bathtubwalrus, My god, my stomach hurts and my chest feels tight just from reading that. I went to Cave of the winds in Colorado a few years back and they had a smaller tunnel that you could crawl through to get a sense of what it was like. It was probably like 20ft long and big enough for the pretty hefty guide to get through. I got up to it and noped the fuck out.
randoot, So sad they were so close to saving him.
samus12345, I know, if that rock hadn’t crumbled, he would probably have survived.
CodexArcanum, I love to watch caving videos: much better for someone younger and foolhardier than me to actually do the climbing and clambering with their gopros. I’ll continue to enjoy things like air, vast open spaces, and vicarious experiences.
People take a lot of safety precautions now, reasonably, but every once in a while the cavers on YT will do something just stupid and it baffles me. “The water’s ice cold and up to my nostrils, but I really want to see where this tunnel goes! Going to turn my lamp and camera off for now to save battery, see you in a few hours!”
bulwark, I love caving videos as well but would absolutely not do it. I like these guys videos: ActionAdventureTwins
This video is wild, they drop down like a 600’ pit in a cave. youtu.be/eULp72P0pNM?si=mi6Wc3_aMBC7Xrdy
CodexArcanum, Im a fan as well, their videos are excellent and they often do trips with other cavers, so you can find other small channels through them if people want more “cave content.”
What trips me out is towards the end of each video where they’ll be like, “Alright, Brad is heading back so I’m going to wrap up too. We’ve been in the cave for 12 hours, probably a good time to head up.” 8+ hours of squeezing through cold, dark passages sounds like actual nightmares I’ve had!
squiblet, (edited ) Some of the stuff describe in the spelunking journal is insane, like "okay, we'll rappel down this giant cliff, then there's a pond at the bottom, so we brought our scuba gear..." Cool to hear there's videos out there! I had never thought to look for some reason. When I went caving (around 2005), it was a 9 hour journey and my digital camera died on the 2nd photo, which sucked.
MBM, “okay, we’ll rappel down this giant cliff, then there’s a pond at the bottom, so we brought our scuba gear…”
… I’m split between being absolutely terrified of getting stuck, and thinking what you’re describing sounds awesome
squiblet, It is pretty awesome, really. Definitely adventurous. I'm sure for people brave, fit and unwise to enough to do it, that's an amazing experience. People do it under the ocean too. The problem is being hours down in a cave that can only be accessed by experts at rock climbing and scuba diving is just about the most remote location possible.
WashedOver, This photo gave me the heebee geebees… I’m left asking why and do I have claustrophobia now as a result?
Shapillon, I’m claustrophobic and shouldn’t have seen this post before sleeping…
Darken, Only one way to find out
lowleveldata, therapist?
groucho, Two ways to find out!
ColeSloth, That is not what it looked like at all, really. But yes. Dude super fucked up, and got an entire cave permanently shut down.
DragonTypeWyvern, Well, the important thing is that he ruined potentially dying for nothing for everyone.
wreckedcarzz, I mean, we do have an overpopulation issue… what’s a little bit of death by being trapped in a hole going to cause, really. They are helping us all!
vaultdweller013, Id rather solve the overpopulation issue with the forbiden fireworks.
wreckedcarzz,
hakunawazo, Thank you for making me claustrophobic in my biggest room.
SnokenKeekaGuard, Well then you dont wanna hear bout my recurring dream about being burried alive unable to move my arm enough to protect my face from the rats gnawing at me
OrderedChaos, So specific it might be a past life/death experience.
SnokenKeekaGuard, Oh now why did you have to make that an option😭
squiblet, (edited ) This is reminding me, a few days ago I read an article telling the story of this guy who was trapped in a cave in Kentucky after rubble fell on his leg. This is the story: https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/tragedy-at-sand-cave.htm of Floyd Collins, though the article I read earlier was more engaging. Oh, may have been this article: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/the-1925-cave-rescue-that-captivated-the-nation/ar-AA1kZ7Es
CodexArcanum, YouTuber HBomberguy just released a video on plagiarism. Another well known YouTube video about that caving incident was wholesale stolen from an article about it (but I don’t think it was either of your articles.) Must be the “vaguely related to caving” time of the year!
squiblet, Not surprising. I've been watching various relationship and psychology videos on YouTube and ran into a few which seem really sketchy... they're very well written in English, all the imagery is people in Malaysia or something, it seems to be read by an AI, and there's no writing attribution. Kind of suspicious.
CommanderCloon, The plagiarism case hbomberguy exposed is about a good production channel with millions of subscribers in collab with other larges channels
starman2112, (edited ) Hey, you can name and shame, it’s alright. The video was the wildly popular Man In Cave, by the wildly popular youtuber Internet Historian. He wholesale ripped off Lucas Reilly’s Mental Floss article about the incident, pretended the video was taken down because of youtube’s famously awful copyright strike system, and then re-uploaded a hastily edited version that less obviously (but still obviously) rips off Reilly’s article.
altima_neo, The only spelunking I do is in spelunky
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