samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

If anyone wants some nightmare fuel, here’s what happened.

cRazi_man,

I searched for an watched a YouTube video about it…and I regret it immensely.

CluckN,

I can’t wait for someone in 2077 to make a documentary about this by plagiarizing an article that goes hour by hour.

deus,

I have a feeling that someone will later make a 4-hour-long video essay calling them out for it

Arelin,

Okay this is clearly referencing something. Who is it

Moxvallix,
@Moxvallix@sopuli.xyz avatar

Hbomberguy called out Internet Historian for blatant plagiarism.

Arelin,

Internet Historian of all people? Well damn :(

drislands,

Yeah, I was really disappointed to learn it too. It was blatant – the entire script is ripped from a well-written article about the experience, verbatim except for a few words swapped around.

HerbalGamer,
@HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works avatar

Except he made it a lot more entertaining so it’s a case of I don’t care

matt1126,

If he had gotten permission from the original author/site about dramatising and animating it I don’t think anyone would have had a problem. But taking someone else’s work and passing it off as your own without permission is what people are upset about.

flames5123,

To his credit, this was the only found bit of plagiarism on his channel. The other channels he calls out are wayyyy worse. But it’s blatant word for word plagiarism.

FooBarrington,

Not quite, Internet Historian also plagiarized parts of his Costa Concordia video. Did hbomberguy actually say that these were the only examples of plagiarism on his channel?

Zehzin, (edited )
@Zehzin@lemmy.world avatar

IIRC he said it was the only plagiarism he found but I’m not skimming a 4 hour video to make sure.

FilthyHookerSpit,

That wouldn’t be very nova, choom.

Bathtubwalrus,

My god, my stomach hurts and my chest feels tight just from reading that. I went to Cave of the winds in Colorado a few years back and they had a smaller tunnel that you could crawl through to get a sense of what it was like. It was probably like 20ft long and big enough for the pretty hefty guide to get through. I got up to it and noped the fuck out.

randoot,

So sad they were so close to saving him.

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

I know, if that rock hadn’t crumbled, he would probably have survived.

TootSweet, (edited )

Fucked up cave stories? Fucked up cave stories.

This documentary by Internet Historian.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNm-LIAKADw

huginn,

Someone hasn’t watched the latest hbomberguy video

TootSweet, (edited )

Er… nope. The one on plagerism? YouTube has recommended it to me a couple of times. (I just watched the roblox off sound video the other day, though.) I guess I’ll put that on my short list. I assume I’ll find out that Internet Historian committed a lot of plagerism in creating that “Man In Cave” video I linked?

Well that sucks. Internet Historian’s entertaining, but I’m not going to be bale to feel good about watching his stuff if that’s the case.

Kedly,

Pretty much that yeah

huginn,

Not just a lot of it: basically the entire thing was word for word lifted, followed by some really lazy find & replace

squiblet,
@squiblet@kbin.social avatar

I looked it up and it's almost 4 hours long. I'll be getting around to that I guess...

huginn,

Yeah

He only talks about 3 youtubers in that video, no less.

drislands, (edited )

4, if you can’t AVGN.

starman2112,
@starman2112@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yeah, but AVGN himself didn’t actually plagiarize anyone, right? It’s the network in charge of his channel that did

drislands,

Arguably yeah, but he’s still responsible for the content his channel produces.

pyre, (edited )

most of the video is about someone else. the video is split into sections so you can get to the “cave story” section immediately if you’re curious about that part. that section is about 25 minutes and worth watching (although I’d say the whole thing is interesting anyway). the section starts around 1h25m if you can’t see sections for some reason.

if you still want a tldw: the entire “documentary” was plagiarized, almost word for word, including the narrative structure.

threethan,

Here’s the original article he plagiarized. Definitely worth a read mentalfloss.com/…/1925-cave-rescue-that-captivate…

ICastFist,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

I mean, the moment you see a passage that barely fits a child and you think to yourself “Hey, I should get in there!”, you’re just aiming to be the year’s winner of the Darwin Awards.

BilboBargains,

It’s what I think on the rare occasions I get a look at my wife’s genitalia.

StopSpazzing,
@StopSpazzing@lemmy.world avatar

🤣

NaoPb,

The closest I’ll be getting to exploring a cave is playing Microsoft Adventure. I’m not getting into a cave, no sir.

IHadTwoCows,

💯 this guy was white

negativeyoda,

Probably still is

IHadTwoCows,

Might be an ashy grey by now

ichbinjasokreativ,

Because it’s a cave and not KFC?

Okkai,

Buddy, not all Asians love KFC

AgentGrimstone,

I remember seeing a video of a dude exploring a cave and he was crawling through some narrow ass space tighter than under my bed. Why would one want to do this??? What if it was a dead end? How tf are you gonna turn around? Crawl backwards? I just can’t with any of this

Kage520,

Don’t forget the spiders

BilboBargains,

You will never reap the rewards of being trapped under water for hours with that kind of attitude.

Rolando,

The Eternal Reward, that is.

UFODivebomb,

I used to go spelunking… I honestly can’t answer you. Kinda neat but mostly just being in the total dark in a tiny space surrounded by rocks.

On the plus side i can basically fall asleep in an MRI

XTornado,

I don’t think the main problem to fall sleep in an MRI is the small space.

UFODivebomb,

True. They are very noisy but the nurses all seem initially concerned with claustrophobia.

MeatsOfRage,

How about this, there’s people that do this underwater. They take the tank off their back, push it out ahead of them. If they get stuck, they don’t have 27 hours to try and figure their shit out, they have a couple hours at best

dejected_warp_core,

That’s where I draw the line.

Normal spelunking, minimal vertical work, the occasional belly crawl no smaller than a manhole. That’s actually a pretty good time. You get wet, dirty, have a few laughs with your friends, and then shake it off with some beers back at the campsite. No need to go aggressive with ridiculously tight crawls and/or 100’s of feet of vertical work, etc.

Cave diving? Let’s take an activity where it’s very easy to loose track of time, and add SCUBA which requires time management down to the minute for your health and survival. Nevermind getting lost, disoriented, or wedged underwater somewhere. I get that this is very intrepid stuff, and the very distant corners of cave systems are being explored this way. But it’s a big no for me; the risk does not justify the reward, IMO.

HelixDab2,

SCUBA is even worse because any movement kicks up sediment, so that visibility quickly turns to nil. Cave diving has a very, very high mortality rate; BASE jumping is safer.

Willer,

at least in a water cave you die with a predictable speed.

Gork,

Not to mention unexpected currents that can either smack you against nearby rocks or sweep you further downward in an uncontrolled manner.

vsh,
@vsh@lemm.ee avatar

Same as sky jumping

Adrenaline.

user224, (edited )
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I’ve seen such video. The dude struggled to move because he just barely fit in enough to still be able to breathe. There was water in there, and he said he has to return because it’s starting to fill with water.

Fill with water? Nope. Nope. Why would I go in such space.

Edit: Maybe this could be it: youtu.be/6Yf0gDzUMFA
https://youtu.be/6Yf0gDzUMFA

chiliedogg,

Funny thing is I’m terrified of spelunking, but actively working towards being certified for cave diving.

Fill it with water and I’m interested!

I think part of it is that I can’t get stuck as easily with scuba gear strapped on my back, and I don’t have to worry about gravity fucking me over.

And I’ll never go anywhere that requires squeezing my fat ass through a crack.

electric_nan,

I can relate. I did some cave diving in Mexico, and it was incredible. Having said that, there are some locations I would dive again, and some I definitely would not.

PopShark,

Those guys got blessed by the algorithm or something I recognize the channel and video. Don’t know why YouTube decided I would be interested in spelunking but their videos are pretty entertaining at least. Personally I’ll take heights over tight spaces anyday.

grendel,
@grendel@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve watched quite a few of this guy’s videos, and I’m lead to believe that lots of his “wow this is really dangerous right now” moments are acted up. Maybe he gets into sketchy situations, but whatever he shows in the videos looks more like excuses to add a click-baity title without being outright click bait.

ultratiem,
@ultratiem@lemmy.ca avatar

What I don’t get is neither path is very deep, so shining a light would reveal both dead ends. Can’t think of a worse way to go tho. And the fear and panic realizing you’re doomed.

Filthmontane,

He likely got to a point where he couldn’t turn around so he decided to just push forward and hope there’s an exit.

starman2112,
@starman2112@sh.itjust.works avatar

Don’t go in the hole

Llewellyn,

That’s what she said

fox2263,

He most likely pissed himself on his face.

Necrosynthetik,

Who hasn’t been waterboarded with their own piss?

fox2263,

Ah but what if a nervous stomach (from being trapped upside down in the dark near death) provided some extra liquid for the water boarding

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Clothes probably soaked most of it up.

fox2263,

Most. But not all

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

He was in there so damn tight I doubt much if any liquid made it to his face. If he were that loose he could have just gotten out.

fox2263, (edited )

Doesn’t have to be a 360 snug fit. Jagged rock can still keep you in place. In fact look at the picture.

Piss, er, finds a way

ElBarto,
@ElBarto@sh.itjust.works avatar

God I hate the idea of that being your last days… Why do people just purposely wander deep into caves?

snaprails,
@snaprails@feddit.uk avatar

Who knows? Some people would crawl up their own colon if they could.

Rodeo,

I know lots of people who crawl up their own ass

TriPolarBearz,

Adventure log day 2: It has become increasingly dark, hot, and humid… And it smells like ass!

Sorgan71,

its fun

boatsnhos931,

I like snuggling up with a good book

RickyRigatoni,
@RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml avatar

Fun.

HelixDab2,

Honestly, they’re pretty neat. I’ve gone through tours of Mammoth Caves that require waivers, and they strongly recommend that you not take that tour if any part of you has a circumference of more than 42", because you won’t fit. There was a spot that was about 12" high, and 72-ish wide that you had to crawl through that took a sharp right; you had to take your helmet off to get through. But then you get out into this enormous cavern filled with rock formations that are seen by less 100 people/year.

But if I didn’t know that that crack was passable, that I’d be able to get through or get back out again? Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck no.

Jax,

Maybe it’s because I live in a place with a lot of earthquakes, but I think I’m good off putting my head between rocks that could slightly shift and obliterate me.

But I’m glad you enjoy it!

HelixDab2,

The Appalachian foothills in Kentucky are pretty geologically dead; there aren’t any fault lines anywhere close by. It’s about as safe as any cave network can be.

I do recommend going to that are and taking some tours, especially in the middle of summer where you can see the inversion layer where the air goes from being 95F to 60F. Even the fully-accessible tours that don’t go through any tight spaces are pretty cool.

Jax, (edited )

I don’t mind going inside caves, I just won’t be squishing myself into any crevices that require me to take off my safety gear to get through.

Granted, if it shifts your safety gear likely won’t do shit but still. I’ll stay in the bit of the cave where I can stand, or at least crouch/crawl.

gatelike,

nsfl

spikederailed,

correct

Blackmist,

Now imaging crawling into a cave, and being blocked by somebody else’s shoes.

PixlShft,

Imagine dying in a place called Nutty Putty Cave.

spudwart,
@spudwart@spudwart.com avatar

Yoinky Spelunky

Snowpix,
@Snowpix@lemmy.ca avatar

Cummy Caverns

Agent641,

Yes we all know your mum

Fedizen,

I mean that sounds like it could be filled with peanut butter.

ChillPenguin,

Imagine your grave is named Nutty Putty Cave. They left his body in there.

PeWu,

The anxiety I felt when I looked at this picture is so immense I’m scared to read the article.

Zehzin,
@Zehzin@lemmy.world avatar

That’s a crazy story, I hope someone makes an original video about it

ours,

Man in cave 2: Plagiarism Boogaloo

Thermal_shocked,

127 hours 2: 100 hours less

SCB, (edited )

Brave people push boundaries so that less brave people can read things in books.

Edit: I assume the people downvoting this obvious truth think I’m calling them cowards. I assure you I will be right there with you curled up reading books about caving. Fuck all that.

A_Random_Idiot,

This isnt brave or pushing boundaries.

This is just an imbecile commiting suicide with extra steps.

WoahWoah, (edited )

And yet, here you are reading about it, reading others’ thoughts about it, and engaged in a conversation about it.

Think of it like a book club.

A_Random_Idiot,

Cause the internet loves idiots who get what they deserve for being stupid

has nothing to do with bravery or boundaries.

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Well, yes, but you can be brave and take precautions at the same time. He wouldn’t have died if he’d followed proper caving guidelines.

SCB,

The question posed is “Why do it”

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

“Because it’s there,” I assume. But if you’re gonna have a potentially dangerous hobby, you should at least be sure to take the necessary precautions before risking your life.

HelixDab2,

Like having a good life insurance policy that pays out even if you die doing something stupid? And maybe having a fake tooth filled with cyanide so you can go out quickly instead of dying of exposure?

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

People who do this kinda stuff never think they’re actually going to die.

Zehzin,
@Zehzin@lemmy.world avatar

Brave people push boundaries, stupid people purposely shove their entire bodies into a hole and die

shasta,

Seriously. He could’ve shone a flashlight down there and seen it was a death trap before going down

quicksand,

I think a boroscope is an important tool he didn’t use

Rockyrikoko, (edited )

I think he was already fucked. His only option was to keep going in hopes a section lay ahead big enough for him to turn around and start crawling out

Willer,

Brave people push boundaries, stupid people purposely shove their entire bodies into a hole and die expect to live

spirinolas,

Book title: How I fucked around.

Epilogue:?

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