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INeedMana, in Beachpatrol: A CLI tool to replace and automate your everyday web browser (Wayland support)
@INeedMana@lemmy.world avatar

your everyday web browser

I only see chromium referenced, where’s firefox?

sebastiancarlos,

“Currently only Chromium is supported. Other Chromium-based browsers and Firefox support to be added soon.”

Commiunism, in What distros have you tried and thought, "Nope, this one's not for me"?

Gentoo - too long compile time, especially on my dated CPU. I prefer my system to update quickly.

Linux Mint - don’t like apt, some packages I installed refused to work properly (like Lutris), and the color scheme which is admittedly customizable but I prefer rolling with defaults except when using WM.

Void Linux - after installing it I realized how much I actually missed systemd, couldn’t be arsed to symlink services manually. And yes, I realize that’s the whole point.

NixOS - realized how much there is to learn with the flakes and separating home configurations and whatever, and just gave up

Manjaro - I tried it twice at the beginning of my Linux journey, and both times the nvidia driver shat itself and gave me different problems that I couldn’t fix.

Maybe I’ve been spoiled by Arch though, as most of my problems probably boil down to “not the same packages”, “not pacman”, “need to learn new skills that weren’t in Arch” and so on. Though admittedly, I did try to explore with an open mind to find a new “cool” distro, but I’d always go back.

lemmyvore,

Doesn’t Void have a tool that does the symlinking for you?

lseif,

skill issue, skill issue, skill issue, skill…

/s

technologicalcaveman, in What distros have you tried and thought, "Nope, this one's not for me"?

Debian, don't like apt.
Arch, breaks too much.
NixOs, just don't need the tools it provides.
Any fork of a mainline distro because it's never as good as the root.

I used arch for a while, but got sick of running repairs every few weeks. I use Gentoo now, it's stable and good. I have a fuck ton of ram and a good cpu, I also take advantage of binary packages from time to time. I don't really need to install new things that much after having done the initial install.

kattenluik,

For the record, Arch breaking at all is probably entirely on you.

technologicalcaveman,

The arch breaks were always related to keys. I would run an update and there would always be an error related to the keys. Never had a breakage due to confs.

noddy,

Usually you can fix that with


<span style="color:#323232;">pacman -S archlinux-keyring
</span>
technologicalcaveman,

I know that, but I still hate having to. Having that as a common issue is just dumb, to me.

steeznson,

I used to distro-hop until 2017 when I started using Gentoo as my main distro. I did not have the same experiences as you with Arch but I tended to avoid the AUR. Ultimately Gentoo has kept my attention by being more flexible rather than having negative experiences with Arch.

I suppose I still distro-hop a little bit on an old laptop I’ve got but that one alternates between Debian and OpenBSD; also its primary use is a terminal for SSH’ing into my Gentoo desktop from the sofa.

Probably the only distro I’ve had a truly bad experience with is Manjaro. The additional repo that it comes bundled with creates more problems than it solves. Also - although this never affected me personally - the story about developers asking their users to reset their system clocks to accept an expired PGP key is an absolute scandal.

lseif,

out of curiosity, what was breaking in arch for you?

LainOfTheWired, in Why do you use the terminal?
@LainOfTheWired@lemy.lol avatar
  1. It feels great
  2. Terminal programs run on a potato
  3. They are almost always way more powerful then their GUI counterparts
  4. They integrate with scripts and other tools for unlimited power and flexibility!
  5. You feel like a hacker man
  6. Your IT literate friends think you are cool
  7. You can really do things your own way

So yeah I love using the terminal for almost everything

theUnlikely,

Can confirm #6. Wife calls it dark screen and does indeed think I’m cool for using it.

Goun, in What distros have you tried and thought, "Nope, this one's not for me"?

Ubuntu. It has become so shitty over time, it’s oretty sad.

phoenixz,

Ubuntu. Started out great but every release got worse with time.

I’ve always used KDE, so always was on kubuntu, or mint, but my latest kubuntu install managed to piss me off badly with its systemd taking over. A simple 10 seconds port=number config in sshd_config change now requires 20 minutes of searches, documentation readup, cursing, and jumping systemd hoops

FUCK systemd

Also FUCK SNAP. Absolute horrid garbage.

My next distro will be debian or some derivative, bye bye Ubuntu

Goun,

I’ve learned to like systemd over time, but not snaps and how Canonical handles things.

Debian also uses systemd nowadays, maybe you can try devuan (I think that’s how it’s called,) which is debian based but without systemd. I only tried it once on a server but came back to debian.

MentalEdge, in Wayland-Proxy Load Balancer Helping Firefox Cope With Wayland Issues
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I had to force it to run in xwayland because in wayland it no longer remembers window positions, so with wayland it was opening all my windows in a big pile on the current desktop, instead of putting them in the positions and on the desktops they belong.

aard,
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That sounds more like a compositor problem - typically a client should not have control over where windows are placed, and that X11 allowed that got heavily abused with negative impact on UI. Wayland fortunately fixed that, so it is now up to the compositor where to place windows. Those can send hints, but the compositor is free to ignore them.

In your situation your compositor should remember where to stick the windows.

MentalEdge, (edited )
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

Kwin. It works with xwayland, doesn’t with wayland, I’d love a solution, but I found nothing.

zurohki,

Window rules based on the application name and window title?

MentalEdge,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

Doesn’t the window title change on firefox depending on tab or even web-page?

zurohki,

Yeah, if you want certain pages in certain screens it would work, and then they’d stay there

MentalEdge,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

And if I ever browse away from that page and forget to return to it before closing firefox…

This has a million caveats and isn’t even close to a solution for how I use firefox. Each desktop has their own windows and I want them to stay there because the tabs open are relevant to that desktop.

Meanwhile forcing xwayland, just works.

Ramin_HAL9001, (edited ) in Do you mount an embedded Linux file system to the workstation and use your host scripts or do you SSH/SCP and deal with the limited shell commands?

This is probably not a solution you would want, but I will mention it anyway…

Emacs has a built-in app called “TRAMP mode”, what it does is it works as back-end for all of Emacs’s own built-in text editing and file browsing commands, then it uses ordinary SSH and POSIX shell commands on a remote host as the primitive APIs for this back-end. You could say it uses SSH and a POSIX shell as a RPC mechanism.

What this means is you can use the ordinary Emacs editor with the entirety of your usual Emacs configuration, but all filesystem changes (including editing files, directories, and running shell processes) occur on the remote host via SSH. In order to activate it, you just use Emacs’s special TRAMP URL scheme as the file path you want to edit, and it works seamlessly, (especially if you setup your SSH agent so you don’t need a password). An example of such a URL would be /ssh:user@remote-host:/etc/hosts.

Lem453,

Cries in vim

mvirts,

We’re gonna get through this

Ramin_HAL9001, (edited )

There are Vim emulator apps for Emacs, and you can use them with TRAMP mode for remote file editing as well. Doom Emacs and Spacemacs both provide extremely good Vim emulation that work consistently throughout all Emacs modes, including TRAMP mode.

waz,

Vim has it’s own way to edit/brows remote files. Checkout netrw:

www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=1075

NanoooK,

I’ve discovered this not long ago and it makes my work way easier. Also, using the dired mode on the remote is useful.

pruneaue, in FN keys 7 to 12 not working properly (fedora 39 on Framework)

Afaik those keys should work ootb, especially on fedora.
Which framework version do you have?

WbrJr,

Worked ok the last install flawless immediately. I have the first European batch of fw13 with i7 11gen

pruneaue,

Hm ok im not familiar with the 13. Tweaks on the 12 (and i think the 13 too) are needed only for the brightness keys.
Personally i would try a reinstall, as unfortunate as that sounds. Especially since it sounds like its a pretty fresh install.

danny801, in KDE's Nate Graham On X11 Being A Bad Platform & The Wayland Future
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  • wreckage,

    input-leap will but it’s still in development

    jollyrogue, in Fuck it, give me your most OVERRATED Distros

    My list overrated list additions:

    • Ubuntu: They break shit, it’s half baked, snaps, and Canonical is really into vendor lock in.
    • Arch: I really have better things to do then baby sit my install.
    • RHEL: Containers were created for reasons, and one of them was RHEL.
    • Any Linux without systemd or glibc: Mistakes were made, and then different mistakes were made trying to prove systemd made mistakes. Musl based Linux distros are going to have compatibility problems, so I might as well run a different OS. The BSDs are *nix-like systems without glibc with a history and larger communities.
    notfromhere,

    Having gone through the Arch install myself, what part dod you find you had to babysit? Boot the install media, format the drive, mount the mounts, install system, configure the system, and done. Maybe it’s just a more involved process than you’d like?

    julianh, in Any recommendations for a Linux tablet/convertible to use at school?

    If you can find something not made by Microsoft, go for it, but I actually picked up a surface go 3 and installed fedora on it. As long as you install the Linux surface kernel it’s actually a really good experience. The only thing that doesn’t completely work are the cameras, but there are workarounds (and anything using libcamera works).

    Quik,

    Thank you for your comment! I’ve seen other people mention Microsoft Surfaces too, but would obviously like to not use a device made by one of the very company whose operating systems I want to avoid. Another thing that kind of scared me are the 2 core CPUs in some of them (even the “higher” priced ones like the surface go 3), so how’s your performance with Fedora?

    julianh,

    I got the i3 version and performance is great for what I use it for (notes, programming, and web browsing). Gnome runs really smooth.

    bingbong,

    How is the battery life and suspend?

    julianh,

    Pretty good, although I never used it with windows so I don’t have a comparison. But it easily survives a day of notetaking and some coding, it usually gets down to 20% by the end of the day. Suspend works great, I’ve had it last for multiple days without losing much battery at all.

    Tippon, in linux phone with external camera?

    I mean, directly “mounting” the camera to the phone and shooting with the phone.

    This is pretty standard on most decent cameras, although it’s usually used with the camera and phone separate. Photographers will set up a a camera on a tripod and use a phone or laptop to control it remotely. It can be used to control multiple cameras.

    The youtube and tiktok generation will mount the phone to the top of the camera, usually using the flash mount, and face it forwards. This way they can see the screen while they’re facing the camera, and be able to see the framing of the shot while they’re shooting.

    The biggest problem you’ll find is that the phone apps are designed for Android and Apple, or maybe Windows Phone. I haven’t used a Linux phone, so I don’t know if they run their own apps, or if they run Linux programs. If they run Linux programs, then it’s just a case of finding one that controls your specific camera, and has the controls that you want.

    drwankingstein,

    so I don’t know if they run their own apps, or if they run Linux programs. If they run Linux programs, then it’s just a case of finding one that controls your specific camera, and has the controls that you want.

    we can run linux desktop, linux mobile or android apps, but camera support in waydroid is broken for a while when using v4l2

    juli,

    Thx for the input! I’ll research in the direction of it further more - maybe first with android in mind.

    lemann, in linux phone with external camera?

    Would recommend using an external camera to be honest.

    There is a ton of software needed to get the most out of a camera, and from the little I understand about embedded image processing a lot of it happens inside proprietary blobs. You can get the image directly as an alternative, but it will look like garbage without reprocessing the input (preferably inside an open source component, with the downside of sometimes being unable to use the hardware to accelerate this)

    Right now if you wanted a high quality, mostly open source Linux device with a camera, IMO you’d be looking at the Raspberry Pi, and there is still a ton of work to do. The work being done there, as well as Libcamera, the V4L2 replacement for MIPI/CSI cameras, should eventually make its way into Linux phones - but no idea when that will happen

    juli,

    I thought about tethering. I’ve played with tethering in the past for astrophotography which is working alright.

    I don’t want to mount the sensor directly to the computer - that’s impossible for a camera noob like me.

    Quills, in Pony approved distro
    @Quills@sh.itjust.works avatar

    YES lol Derps everywhere!!!

    uis,
    @uis@lemmy.world avatar

    Should I call Littleshy?

    uis,
    @uis@pone.social avatar

    @LittleshyFiM did you install Derpian?

    turkalino, in Fuck it, give me your most OVERRATED Distros
    @turkalino@lemmy.yachts avatar

    Arch

    • Being 64-bit doesn’t make you special, my Nintendo 64 is 27 yrs old and it’s 64-bit
    • Being bleeding edge doesn’t make you special, all I have to do is sit on a nail and now I’m bleeding edge too
    • Rolling releases don’t make you special, anyone can have those if they take a shit on a steep slope

    /s (was hoping we’d be able to leave this behind on reddit, but alas, people’s sense of humor…)

    polygon,
    @polygon@kbin.social avatar

    I know you're making a joke but I was convinced recently to try out Arch. I'm running it right now. I was told it's a DIY distro for advanced users and you really have to know what you're doing, etc etc. I had the system up and running in 20 minutes, and about an hour to copy my backup to /home and configure a few things. I coped the various pacman commands to a text file to use as a cheat sheet until muscle memory kicked in.

    ..and that was it. What is so advanced about Arch? It's literally the same as every other distro. "pacman -Syu" is no different from "zypper dup" in Tumbleweed. I don't get the hype. I mean it's fine. I don't have any overwhelming desire to use something else at the moment because it's annoying to change distros. It's working and everything is fine. As I would expect it to be. But people talk about Arch like its something to be proud of? I guess the relentless "arch btw" attitude made me think it would be something special.

    I guess the install is hard for some people? But you just create some partitions, install a boot loader, and then an automated system installs your DE. That's DIY? You want DIY go install NixOS or Void, or hell, go OG with Slackware. Arch is way overrated. That doesn't mean it's bad, but it's just Linux and it's no different from anything else. KDE is KDE no matter who packages it.

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