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smay, in linux phone with external camera?

i feel like this would just be better served by having a phone and a camera. a good large camera will continue to be a good camera for years and years past the time the phone is too old to be useful for modern needs. my almost 20 year old DSLR still outperforms my phone camera, and my phone is quite recent.

drwankingstein,

the general Idea I am getting from this would be something where the phone itself could be swapped out

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble,

Most nice modern cameras have either USB, bluetooth, or even wifi connectivity to connect to whatever you want. You could just have a normal phone and a normal camera and just copy the files off via whatever method you prefer.

juli,

That’s exactly why I want to replace the phone camera

conciselyverbose,

Excluding some of the smaller point and shoots, which are still more volume than most phones, DSLRs and Mirrorless cameras are way bigger than phones for a reason. It's because that's what it takes to take actual high quality pictures without cheating heavily with processing.

smay,

my point is that you might as well just have the phone be separate at that point. instead of having to frankenstein them together just have two devices. also, last i checked the linux experience on a small handheld device is not something you’d want to subject yourself to daily. android is much more what you’d want.

SuperiorOne, in Writing program

I recommend Obsidian with community plugins. Application itself isn’t open-source but your content stored as markdown files.

toastal,

Obsidian’s fork of Markdown. Don’t expect compatibility.

Euphoma,

There are extensions for obsidian compatability in Vim and Emacs.

toastal, (edited )

It’s not compatible with other Markdown forks, but the whole Markdown ecosystem is a mess duct taped together by more forks & extensions that aren’t compatible either. Even the common denominator CommonMark is feature-barren & isn’t suitable for documentation or technical writing, but boy howdy will the next guy have his Markdown contraption to sell you.

pelotron, in Experience with KDE on Fedora?
@pelotron@midwest.social avatar

I have no knowledge about or experience with immutable distros, but I’ve been maining the Fedora KDE spin on my laptop for several major releases now and so far have found no reason to switch away from it. The Plasma Wayland session has been solid from the beginning and everything has just worked.

mortalic,

Perfect, just what I was hoping to hear.

pingveno, in What distros have you tried and thought, "Nope, this one's not for me"?

Gentoo: I hated constantly compiling and configuring. It was incredibly time consuming. If I was compiling for uncommon cases it might make sense, but I am dealing with a pretty standard dev machine.

NixOS: The configuration is kind of a pain and never really got the extra features you get beyond package management working correctly.

RickyRigatoni,
@RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml avatar

I refuse to believe there are people who use Gentoo seriously. There is no possible way it’s not just a joke about how goofy a true stallman-esque approach to FOSS is.

moonsnotreal,
@moonsnotreal@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I can see it being ok if you cross compile for something like an old power pc mac. Even then there are still some distros that support power pc (Maybe bsds too?).

pingveno, (edited )

I used it on an old potato chip of a Pentium 4 (this was nearly 20 years ago). It took days to compile what I wanted, which was a basic system plus KDE. I don’t know what was going through my 17 year old brain. But hey, it walked me through some details of a Linux system that I wouldn’t have encountered otherwise. Now I would recommend Linux From Scratch for learning and a nice, stable distro with a large, supportive community for a daily driver.

pete_the_cat,

Are you me? I just posted the same thing above. I attempted to get KDE working during my freshman year of college (2004-2005) on what was either a high end P4 or Athlon X2, it would spend 10-15 hours compiling X and then break, leaving me no clue what to do but I went from using Ubuntu for about 5 months to a stage 2 Gentoo installation. I never did get it working.

pingveno,

I got it working, but KDE just didn’t work well with the resource constraints. I should have picked something more lightweight. Oh well.

racketlauncher831,

I’ll give you one reason for using Gentoo: option of no systemd.

Gentoo is one of the few distros which still offer a systemdless setup given its nature of high configurability. You can tell the system-wide config file to exclude systemd support in every package it attemps to compile.

I hope you or anyone who just enjoys their linux machine running fine and happily, now be able to see what freedom can mean in the open source universe. Cheers.

technologicalcaveman,

I use it, been using it for a while. Both my desktop and laptop run it. I like it a lot and find it really easy to use. Amytime I find an issue I can pretty quickly fix it and keep my system clean. Games run great, my music production software is great, it's fast, and just overall very enjoyable to use.

BaldProphet, in Ending support for Windows 10 could send 240 million computers to the landfill. Why not install Linux on them?
@BaldProphet@kbin.social avatar

The problem is most people don't have the technical ability or interest in switching to Linux. Here is the solution:

  1. We, as Linux users, must be better advocates for the platform to untechnical people.
  2. We should make ourselves available to help people make the transition.
Wermhatswormhat,

Exactly. I tried using Linux and I just don’t understand how to use it, and I consider myself fairly tech savvy. It would bring my productivity to a grinding halt if I had to switch to Linux.

BCsven,

Did you install gentoo or something? Zorin or Mint is just install and use it (just like Windows)

TheGrandNagus,

I’m like this with windows these days tbh

I get to the desktop and I’m like how the fuck do I even use this thing

TrickDacy,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

Exactly. I’ve not used many Linux flavors that are as confusing as what they have done to windows since v7

smileyhead,

There are many many outdated patterns how to do things in Windows that are cemented in public knowledge. Running random executable installers from the web giving them superuser permissions is I thing the most popular one.

How to share all user settings between system installations? How to change the logo in the desktop bar? How to add a directory to an applications bar? How to change system build-in keyboard shortcut? How to reinstall just the system keeping the programs? How to make a file run on a shortcut? Those are things I use daily, that are impossible or need some hacky programs to work on anything other than Linux, I would die if I had to switch back now.

Lionel,

I would use Linux but I heard that it doesn’t work seamlessly with NVIDIA gaming hardware

EuroNutellaMan,
@EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world avatar

Depends honestly but for most people it will work fine if you use something like Pop OS, Nobara, or other distros that set it up for you (or you know how to set it up yourself but that’s unlikely to be the case)

Deebster,
@Deebster@programming.dev avatar

It is far too confusing what to use - even as someone who uses Linux on various servers, a media centre, WSL and used to run a Gentoo laptop I still don’t know which distro to use, let alone which of KDE/Gnome, X11/Wayland, init/systemd etc.

smileyhead,

Use whatever is popular and has a cool logo. Distro is basically a software library, preinstalled programs and default settings. You can transform any distro to behave like the other one.

KDE, Gnome, XFCE…? Which is looking better for you or which one was default. Init system? Which was the default. X11/Wayland? Wayland. Go with X11 only if Wayland is having problems with your graphics card.

Jumuta,

just try one in a vm?

also, most of the differences are not that big, any one of them will work fine for most people.

anon5621,
@anon5621@lemmy.ml avatar

Make correct marketing,create tools which will user switch OS with one click,create tech support gor usual people with small prices

smileyhead,

Marketing is monopolized with Google and Facebook. Manufacturers and Microsoft won’t make one-click installs happen. Tech support would be chicken and egg problem. Ugh…

admiralteal, (edited )

I'd also bet that a huge portion of those offices rely on at least some kind of proprietary software that doesn't play nice/officially support Linux. MS Office, for example, or Autodesk's stuff. When I saw what a headache it would be to get these working on Linux, I just shrugged and decided I'd keep my dual boot available for when I inevitably have need.

You're turning up the cost dial for every additional workaround or adjustment you ask of people. Just to save what is fundamentally seen as $50-200 up front cost on a system for a new Windows 11 Pro license.

TrickDacy,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

The article and post title itself alludes to the fact that windows 11 won’t support millions of machines, so a w11 license is useless. And if you meant you can buy a PC that supports w11 and is worth using, for $50, I need to consult with you for the world’s best shopping tips

EuroNutellaMan,
@EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world avatar

Tip 1: it’s free if you steal it.

Transcendant,

Linux doesn’t support my DAW or audio interface. I’m not throwing away thousands of pounds of software and equipment to use Linux.

I would happily give it a go if cubase / uad interfaces were supported.

indigomirage,

For me, it’s the lack of support for the audio HW. Infuriating.

smileyhead, (edited )

Your DAW and audio interface doesn’t support Linux.*

Yeah, it’s a bummer, but you are in a small portion of effected computer users, still others can benefit from longer support.

Transcendant,

None of the main adobe suite works on Linux either, so let’s not pretend my use case is so narrow. Literally none of the programs I use to work (Cubase, Audition, After Effects, Illustrator, Premiere, yes I can install a virtual windows machine but that completely defeats the purpose) works with Linux. And from what I gather last time I researched this, hardly any audio interfaces are Linux compatible. Most of the games I want to play also are not Linux-compatible.

Fact of the matter is, despite the large dedicated userbase (which I appreciate), it still has a giant gap where many prosumers and casual users cannot utilise it. It’s no good saying “ahhh well YOU’RE not compatible with US! No u!”. I’d love to switch and tbh am strongly considering a setup for live PA that’s Linux based, in the hope that it brings greater stability. But it’s going to be a large investment of time, and I’ll have to buy a different audio interface if I have a hope of making it work.

smileyhead, (edited )

And this is a huge barrier for a lot of users, a massive roadblock. But the article talk about houndres of millions of computers, my point was just about that even if millions like you cannot switch, still in this statistics are millions that can especially non-professional that do not make audio or video, but that are going to throw away a working machine.

I feel like you might feel being personally directed by my comment, because of your respond with “YOU’re not compatible”. Maybe it was bad wording, sorry. What I ment was that it can be frustrating to see “Linux doesn’t support …” when actually it has everything needed to support this software and the burden to make it available is on the software developer. Like saying that USB-C doesn’t support iPhone 13. Lack of it still hurts the Linux side anyway, but I just don’t want misconsaptions about which side should make a port happen.

Transcendant,

Yep I definitely took it wrong, one of the problems with text only communication… No body language or audio cues! No worries.

The devs of my audio interface have definitely been asked a fair bit about Linux compatibility… But considering they’ve not even bothered bringing their new DAW to PC, it seems they’re strongly focussed on mac ecosystems only for the foreseeable.

Personally I think compatibility should be a two way street pun not intended! But unfortunately companies tend to vote with our wallets, so until Linux becomes even more established I doubt they will dedicate much if any resources to making their devices work on it. Shame.

I bought a new audio interface for live work a few months back, went for an audient id24 partly because it’s Linux compatible (although no native drivers). So I will get stuck in at some point. I started using PCs back when floppy disks were actually floppy so I’m not afraid of command line stuff!

indigomirage, (edited )

For me, it’s not the DAW (Reaper works fine), but this is not the case for every DAW and it must be recognized that switching DAWs is non-trivial (nor should it be expected). In my case, it’s the HW. I can likely get my interface to run (unsupported) but my Maschine is a non-starter. Yes - I know there are a few drivers for similar HW around written by clever folk who’ve done reverse engineering, but it only covers a few minor use cases and is, at best a science experiment and not something one should ever depend on even if it did work.

SW is a problem too - yes most plugins can be coaxed into working, but certainly not all. Add to that the underlying tech is usually wine, and it’s a perpetual game of whackamole to maybe get the stuff you paid for to run.

The folks writing these bridging tools are not too blame - it’s brilliant, wonderful work. Fundamentally, it’s an act of good will that one can’t rely afford to fully depend on if it even does work. I love FOSS, but it’s not everything - I certainly don’t expect a free ride, but I do want the option to pay to run what I want.

The issue is the HW and SW manufacturers - they need a critical mass of potential users to be bothered to commit to developing for Linux. My hope is that as user bases grow (in places like India) the cost/benefit analysis shifts.

Transcendant,

This is interesting and concerning… I don’t need a lot of plugins for live stuff, but I was definitely planning to use my Maschine!

So is that confirmed completely inoperable in Linux? No idea how I’d trigger parts without it.

indigomirage, (edited )

At most, you might be able to get midi mode to work (if you scrounge the internet for experimental and old reverse engineered scripts.) But almost certainly not the core Maschine functionality (ie - the main reason for buying maschine in the first place).

Even if you can get it to work none of it will be supported and you’re always at risk of an update rendering things inoperable.

It’s worth noting that only the old Native Access installer runs in wine (with coaxing). The newer one does not, and from what I’ve read, the break points are features that will never be supported in wine.

Wine is clever, but it’s always an incomplete game of whackamole. A workaround at best.

The whole thing is truly frustrating.

(your luck may be better than mine of course!)

Transcendant,

Well this doesn’t sound appealing! And this just speaks to what I was trying to explain to the person at the start of this thread… Linux may be growing rapidly but there’s still giant holes in the driverset etc for many tasks.

I think prob the best solution will be to perform a hard reset / clean on the laptop, remove any bloatware, keep it offline once I’ve installed necessary updates / plugins, and only have live PA software installed.

indigomirage,

The Adobe case is a big one. For me, it’s lightroom that has no real Linux counterpart. The app itself isn’t where the magic is - darktable exists. The magic is in the interapp interoperability - bi-directional syncs and edits in any platform. FOSS is very unlikely to create something like this (would love to be wrong) as it’s less of a tech challenge than an enterprise architecture challenge with a component systems falling in line. This sort of thing requires money to be executed effectively, unfortunately.

Really hope overall user base in Linux can grow enough to catch attention of SW/HW manufacturers, but have been hoping this for many, many years…

jaykay, (edited )
@jaykay@lemmy.zip avatar

Maybe there should be a centralised GitXXX documentation „Windows to Linux” with everything from choosing a distro to troubleshooting and links to appropriate wikis. There are so many guides/blogs, each saying something different

BCsven,

Windows now has a How to Install Linux tutorial…which seems odd.

Bitrot,
@Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

There have been. Creating another one creates another one. Not that someone shouldn’t, but it will always be one among many.

jaykay, (edited )
@jaykay@lemmy.zip avatar

True, but I’m sure there could be something like „awesome-xxx” that’s just… one main one. Maybe I should just try doing that myself with my limited knowledge, I can’t really code, but I always wanted to contribute somehow

mondoman712,
voidMainVoid,

The solution is donate them. Don’t send them to a landfill. Give poor students a free laptop with Linux installed, etc. There are probably thousands of uses for an old computer that are better than sending it to a landfill.

Da_Boom, in Just install EndeavorOS lol
@Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

Bruh, if you’re going to insist on someone installing arch, at least sit by their side and walk them through it.

Having installed arch multiple times before, I can get a base system with networking and desktop environment up in half a day to a day depending on which DE.

Pantherina,

Is that… fast? Haha but yes of course it helps

Da_Boom,
@Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

I’m not saying it’s particularly fast, but having someone who knows what they are doing drastically reduces the time.

I could probably make it quicker if I set up a bunch of scripts for initial installation.

That said the whole point of arch is DIY, lightweight - people forget the kinda of people arch is for, then complain about how long it takes to install. If you complain about install times, then the distro is not for you. (For more about the point of arch, see the arch way principles.design/examples/the-arch-way)

But it can be a great platform for learning about the inner workings of your typical Linux system, and that’s why it’s great. If you’re willing to learn and look things up it can be the best option.

If you want it here and now with no fuss ,it’s the third worst system to use- followed by Gentoo and lastly, LFS.

And heck once it’s installed you can be as pedantic or as lazy as you want - my main system has had the same install of arch for multiple years - it’s a mess and I havent really maintained it well, I just fix it when it breaks and use it like a regular system. It’s just the set up process that takes the most effort.

LordKitsuna,

Or, just use Endeavor OS and be done with it. It uses the Upstream repositories, the only thing in their customer repositories are some desktop wallpapers and a theme so you can safely remove it without breaking anything. It’s a great way to get a base system in a known good configuration up quickly and from there the arch Wiki can help you tweak things to your desire it’s a much better way to learn than just throwing someone into the deep end of the pool

Scary_le_Poo,
@Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org avatar

I can have windows up in 15 minutes

liforra,
@liforra@endlesstalk.org avatar

Really? It always took me an hour including forced update, and from a usb

MaxHardwood, (edited ) in Nobara 39 Officially Released

This is a shit-tier post. Why hide the relevant information that’s 2 sentences long?

Relevant information:

Better integration with Steam. By default the Steam Deck uses KDE as the desktop mode. This inherently means it receives updates from Valve in terms of desktop related fixes, and they are actively working with KDE developers to bring updates to KDE (reddit.com/…/is_there_any_cooperation_with_valve_…)

simple,
@simple@lemmy.world avatar

I know reading is hard but you realize this quote was reason #5 of the many reasons listed… I’m not going to copy-paste the article, it’s all relevant info.

Dirk, in Beachpatrol: A CLI tool to replace and automate your everyday web browser (Wayland support)
@Dirk@lemmy.ml avatar

What can you automate with Beachpatrol? The sky is the limit:

  • Check your email.
  • Login to your bank account.

[…]

Oh hell no!

GustavoM, (edited )
@GustavoM@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah… I’d rather spend some time doing those manually and not risk losing money (or even worse) because of a mere couple seconds less on the internet.

rufus, (edited ) in Recommendations

Ask your Linux group. Seriously. They should know best what kinds of issues their ‘users’ frequently face and what kind of information there is.

I learned Linux by doing. Set up a webserver, set up a network share, assemble a RAID with 2 old HDDs. Install Steam and play around a bit. Try LaTex and write your next homework assignment with it. Set up a Python / R / C++ development environment. All of that is good practice and you’ll understand the concepts and specific issues once you do it yourself. Imho that’s better than a theoretical course. You can do this in VMs or find old hardware. Some people in such groups have good connections.

Also a university library should have some free (for you) material (books) on Linux.

amanneedsamaid,

LaTeX was my entry point into plain text (and honestly computing in general), really good recommendation.

rufus, (edited )

Thanks. Yeah I spent some time with it and drew some finite-state machines with TikZ(?), other diagrams, we assembled a few physics homework assignment scripts to tidy the data from experiments, do linear regression and generate beautiful diagrams. It also taught me a bit about typesetting and proper formatting. I ‘wasted’ quite some time with it but a homework assignment in TeX looks almost like a scientific paper. Depending on the later career it’s a good skill to have. And I still prefer writing stuff with that instead of fighting LibreOffice. YMMV, since I also like programming and prefer text and the command line over GUIs.

SteveTech, (edited ) in Need some help with Xubuntu networking please.

Have you disabled auto start in the DHCP profile?

Edit: Also you should probably think about getting a cheap UPS if you can afford it, if your power is that bad during storms.

Tippon,

Apologies for the slow reply, I accidentally switched accounts on here without realising >.<

Have you disabled auto start in the DHCP profile?

I have no idea. That’s a setting that I didn’t know existed until now. I’ll have a look tonight and see if I can find it.

The power here is usually fine, but a transformer blew during the storm, and the one I’m on apparently took some of the strain.

SteveTech,

Apologies for the slow reply

No worries, I’m also not that much of a fast replyer.

Have you disabled auto start in the DHCP profile?

I probably could have been a bit clearer what I mean too: Those profiles with DHCP enabled in network manager should have a ‘Connect automatically’ toggle, maybe try just turning them off instead of deleting them, and make sure they’re turned on for the static IP profile.

I also haven’t used Xubuntu in a while, and this is mostly for Debian KDE and Ubuntu, so I’m hoping it’s the same.

Tippon,

I thought that might have been it. The DHCP profiles didn’t exist last time I looked, but the static address profiles were set to auto start.

I noticed last night that the ethernet adapters changed, and the static profiles didn’t update to match. The adapters were named something like enp6so, but used to be enp2so, for example.

The DHCP profiles matched the new device names, and the static profiles were stuck on the old names.

Changing the static profiles to match the updated device names and deleting the DHCP profiles seems to have worked for now, but I don’t know why they changed in the first place.

om1k, in Writing program

Neovim

toastal,

That’s what I use for my reStructuredText documents!

Sims, in linux phone with external camera?

Just a thought, but in a few years all old ugly photos can be refined, upscaled, content edited, rotated and animated - in 32K ultra. It could even recognize the exact mobile model a random photo was taken with and pre-set the best filters.

It prolly won’t matter much if the photo is taken with a hundred year old handheld plate camera or a brand new digital mounted one - it will look great regardless.

Are you sure photo hardware is the way to go ? I think I would just use whatever you already have and upgrade the pictures later when the software allows it.

Dio9sys,

There is really only so Mich software enhancement can do. At a certain point, there’s not enough data to interpolate.

juli, (edited )

Upscaling isn’t really the holy grail

And it can’t definitely make up for the subpar image stabilisation of the pixel.

conciselyverbose,

I really doubt that. Computational photography is only as good as it is because of how heavily it processes all sorts of data that can't make it into the jpeg that gets spit out.

I would love to see what an Apple camera with the hardware they leverage on iPhone, but a full frame sensor and real lens could do, because what they manage to pull out of the trash ass input is impressive. But it's already processed to absolute hell. There's nothing left for further passes to pull out.

juli, in Experience with KDE on Fedora?

I’d recommend fedora kinoite fedoraproject.org/kinoite/ because noone can fuck up the system unintentionally

sanpo,

Is this just Silverblue but KDE?

RmDebArc_5,
@RmDebArc_5@lemmy.ml avatar

Yes

trevor, in Beachpatrol: A CLI tool to replace and automate your everyday web browser (Wayland support)

This is really cool! Do you have a rough timeline for Firefox support?

sebastiancarlos, (edited )

It should be pretty soon. I’ve got it working already, but I need to test it more and figure out how Firefox profiles work with Playwright.

If you want you can just clone it and replace “chromium” with “firefox”. It should just work, and it shouldn’t take too long to figure out the rest.

vort3,
@vort3@lemmy.ml avatar

Let us know when it’s ready, I’d like to try that.

sebastiancarlos,

Will do, bossman

Shimitar, in What distros have you tried and thought, "Nope, this one's not for me"?

To all gentoo detractors… 20 years ago compiling a browser would take 5 days (as in 24 x 5 hours…) So you are not allowed to complain TODAY about compile times ahahahaahaha ahahaha ahah haha aaaaaaaaah ಠ_ಠ

pete_the_cat,

I remember jumping from Ubuntu (my first distro) to a Gentoo stage 2 install in 2005. I was using it on my desktop so I needed a GUI. I was using either a high end P4 or an X2 Athlon. I attempted to compile KDE and all the deps. It would compile X for about 10-20 hours… and then the compilation would break with a seemingly obscure error message.

I tried a few times and never did get a GUI built.

Shimitar,

Today on Intel i7/Xeon with 16gb ram I go from a stage3 to full GUI (plasma, no libreoffice or such) in a few hours.

pete_the_cat,

I’ve considered giving it a go again since I have a 24 core Threadripper which could easily compile everything pretty quickly, I just never got around to it.

porl,

Try accidentally emerge world on a full desktop environment with open office and said browser on a Pentium 2 after changing some base level compile flags… Oh, and I was on dial-up. Didn’t do that again.

I got Gentoo on a DVD with instructions in a magazine for a Stage 1 build. No internet connection at that stage so I had to work through problems myself. Took a few goes but I learnt a heck of a lot about how Linux boots.

Been a very long time so apologies if I got some details wrong.

JeffKerman1999,

Yeah I remember trying it out on a k6-2 400 MHz (maybe? I don’t remember if that was it’s rated speed of it it was with the bus at 112mhz) and it was days of downloading sources and even more for compiling. I think there was a bootable CD bundled with some zine that allowed you to have something running on your machine

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