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tkk13909, in I feel like breaking my windows install was a rite of passage

I too screwed up a duel boot which led to me simply wiping Windows! I’m glad it worked out for you.

cetvrti_magi, in I feel like breaking my windows install was a rite of passage
@cetvrti_magi@lemmy.world avatar

This reminds me of my first time installing Linux. I tried to install most recent version of Ubuntu at the time but for some reason it couldn’t install and it wiped out Windows partition. Fortunetely, I was able to install LTS version in first try.

I’m glad you are enjoying Linux. Welcome to the penguin land.

hardcoreufo, (edited ) in What distros have you tried and thought, "Nope, this one's not for me"?

Ubuntu - Loved it in 2006-2012ish but I jumped ship when Amazon appeared in search. Great place to start my Linux journey at the time.

Manjaro - Only distro to ever break entirely on me. I didn’t care enough to try and figure out why.

Tried endeavor and stock arch but they weren’t my cup of tea. No real issues with them though.

Fedora - I liked for a few years but abandoned after the RHEL drama this summer. Seems to be going the way of Ubuntu. Maybe that’s just my opinion.

I use and like Solus a lot but they didn’t update anything for 2 years until this summer. I use it on my gaming PC and an old laptop for web browsing but nothing important. It’s always been solid for me, I just worry about it going extinct. They do have an updated road map and seem re-energized though. I also think it’s a good beginner distro because you don’t have to dive into terminal much, and a good distro if you are a pro, but kind of bad if you are an intermediate user because there aren’t a ton of resources on it that bigger distros have.

I mostly use Debian these days. Stable on my server. Testing on everything else. I don’t see me abandoning it anytime soon.

Aman9das, in I feel like breaking my windows install was a rite of passage

Pretty cool

DannyBoy, (edited ) in What are the differences between linux distributions?

The differences between distros are the things you mentioned. They all use the Linux kernel, so the differences are in the DE, installer, theme, default packages, and package manager. These changes come about from design choices: rolling vs versioned releases, stability goals, FOSS vs proprietary packages/repositories, things like systemd vs alternatives, and overall goals/use cases (lightweight, server, etc).

A distro can be as little as a theme change. The famous Hannah Montana Linux is KUbuntu with a custom theme, icon pack, and Hannah Montana as the background.

linuxreviews.org/Hannah_Montana_Linux

majestic,

So basically if i have all Voidlinux’s programs installed on NixOS, i can have some decent amount of packages (that are not heavily depending on init systems or some other non trivial stuff) from Void repos running on NixOS?

Dotdev,
@Dotdev@programming.dev avatar

I wouldn’t compare void and nix since both of them follow very different approaches. Void is more like a traditional distro while nixos on the other hand uses configurations for setup.

And no you can’t use void on nix os as said above. Hannah Montana linux and kubuntu uses Ubuntu as the base that’s what he meant.

majestic, (edited )

Im not talking about comparing these distros, nor using void on NixOS. Im asking if i had all packages that are preinstalled on void, present on NixOS as well. Would i be able to run some packages from void linux repos on NixOS? If i make nix derivation with package from void repo and install it, would it work?

Looks like the answer is “Yes”, but im not sure.

Dotdev,
@Dotdev@programming.dev avatar

If the same void package exists in the nix os repo then sure. You can’t use a void package in nix os is the thing I would like to point out other than using distrobox.

majestic, (edited )

Hannah Montana Linux

Yeah, love it

Draconic_NEO, in What distros have you tried and thought, "Nope, this one's not for me"?
@Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Ubuntu, because snaps break shit and don’t work right a lot of the time, also they left people hanging with 32 bit support which isn’t great (for being a Legacy OS for weak computers it’s not a great look for them, or all the Linux distros that followed them).

There were a lot of problems with Fedora and CentOS, none of them as bad as Ubuntu though. Most were either instability or software availability due to lacking RPM versions of the software I needed.

Arch itself hasn’t given me many problems but it is ideologically problematic for a lot of reasons (mainly the elitism) and it is also a rolling release which isn’t great if you don’t like being a guinea pig and getting software before all the bugs have been ironed out.

oresafa, (edited ) in What distros have you tried and thought, "Nope, this one's not for me"?

Ubuntu Reason : Canonical

RiderExMachina, in I feel like breaking my windows install was a rite of passage

Linux is great about providing that feeling of discovery. New tools, new processes, new paradigm… It’s the best way to breathe new life into an old piece of hardware.

If this is your first major step, congratulations! If you’re a regular, great job, keep it up; eventually you’ll be a grey beard with the rest of us.

Mio, in Why do you use the terminal?

Because there is no native gui. For most things to configure in Linux there is a webui but not a simple Gui built in. Configuration files like squid.conf smb.conf nginx.com… then we have logs but here I think I never checked for a Gui, does it work for remote ssh easily? Can you restart service easy?

normalexit, in Why do you use the terminal?
  1. Scripting is easier. Apps and commands can be composed together in simple repeatable scripts.
  2. looks cool.
  3. Remotely administer machines with the same interface and little lag.
conciselyverbose, in Techrights — The Effort to Silence (Squash) GNU/Linux Advocates and Press Coverage

This is a mess and a half.

jdrch,
@jdrch@lemmy.world avatar

I used to subscribe to this blog. The takes were so bad I’d deliberately share the links the author was railing against.

conciselyverbose,

I couldn't even come up with a take. I guess a conspiracy theory that Microsoft is kidnapping the internet's families to keep them from talking about Linux.

It's mostly just babble.

MasterNerd, in Based KDE 🗿
@MasterNerd@lemm.ee avatar

Kinda weird that they’re calling it an OS, but ig they’re just trying to cater to the windows audience

killerinstinct101,

KDE neon is what they’re selling

glibg10b,

Selling as in advertising, I might add. Neon is free

rwhitisissle,

Which is…still not an OS. It’s a distribution. Specifically, it’s a fork of Ubuntu. To reiterate what the OP was saying, they’re catering to the Windows audience, who understand the concept of a “new Windows version,” but who wouldn’t understand the concept of a distribution.

Kusimulkku,

It’s actually not even a distro, according to their own description at least

Is it a distro?

Not quite, it’s a package archive with the latest KDE software on top of a stable base. While we have installable images, unlike full Linux distributions we’re only interested in KDE software.

rwhitisissle,

Sounds like a distribution that they don’t want to call a linux distribution.

Kusimulkku, (edited )

They probably feel like the name distribution means more than just slapping a DE on it and basically a PPA. Then again, haven’t stopped loads of distros from doing that hah.

Could be another way to discourage people using it as a beginner distro or something.

rwhitisissle,

I mean, there’s over a thousand linux distributions already and it feels like they just don’t want it to be another drop of water in the ocean.

killerinstinct101,

What exactly is an OS to you? All distros are operating systems because they ship all the tools and utilities need for the system to function (on top of a package manager).

The fact that the KDE devs didn’t write that code themselves doesn’t disqualify it from being an OS.

rwhitisissle, (edited )

An OS is the interface layer between hardware and software. It’s the first code that runs after the boot loader, and it exposes an API for syscalls that allow user processes to allocate typically restricted resources, while also tracking and maintaining those allocated resources, doing process scheduling, and a bunch of other critical tasks.

All distros are operating systems because they ship all the tools and utilities need for the system to function

All distros contain operating systems (or, more accurately, kernels), or, rather, are built on top of them. A distribution is a collection of curated software, along with an init system and, for linux, package manager, and, frequently, a particular desktop environment. These pieces of software are, on some level, superfluous. You can have an OS without them. They don’t comprise the OS as a distinct conceptual layer of a computer system, of which there is the hardware, operating system, application, and user layers. The operating system is just Linux - because that is the interface layer between the hardware and software.

Saying “all distros are operating systems” is like saying “all cars are engines.” It’s just wrong. And I don’t care what wikipedia has to say about it.

Kusimulkku,

Neon is more of a testbed than a proper distro (they don’t actually even use that word).

Is this “the KDE distro”?

Nope. KDE believes it is important to work with many distributions, as each brings unique value and expertise for their respective users. This is one project out of hundreds from KDE.

rbits,

It’s a proper distro, that’s just saying it’s not THE official one

Kusimulkku,

Uhm

Is it a distro?

Not quite, it’s a package archive with the latest KDE software on top of a stable base. While we have installable images, unlike full Linux distributions we’re only interested in KDE software.

neon.kde.org/faq#is-it-a-distro

rbits,

Oh ok

FangedWyvern42,
@FangedWyvern42@lemmy.world avatar

I feel like they intended to mention KDE neon (which is the official KDE distro).

KISSmyOS, (edited )

I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux is in fact KDE/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, KDE plus Linux.

the_post_of_tom_joad,

I finally get this reference! I think this could mean im ready to try Linux again

KISSmyOS,
aberrate_junior_beatnik,

It’s time to write free software and defend rapists, and I’m all out of programming talent

theshatterstone54,

Haha (but in all seriousness, his lack of understanding of the issue was embarrassing, even if he did apologise afterwards; it’s like Ballmer: everyone remembers him saying “Linux is a cancer”, yet nobody remembers him apologising, when he saw Satya Nadella found a way to make money off Linux, rather than look for ways to tear it down as competition). In both cases these men saw that a change in their stance would allow them to achieve their goals (of promoting free software, and making money, respectively) much more easily).

So here you can see me behaving like the average Linux user, hating on Microsoft and being elitist about my distro, and I’m done ranting about M$.

I use Arch BTW.

k_rol,

I don’t :(

the_post_of_tom_joad,
psud,

You can’t say that without explaining the reference. How can they be one of the lucky 10 000 when they still don’t get it?

the_post_of_tom_joad,

hmm, looks like my link still works… clicking on any of those words should take them to the answer, which is a bit too involved for me to summarize :). if for some reason your client isn’t reading it, here’s the naked link:

wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Interjection

d_k_bo,

I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Windows, is in fact, Adware/NT, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, Adware plus NT.

theshatterstone54,

Adware + New Technology (from the 1990s)

troyunrau,
@troyunrau@lemmy.ca avatar

What if you’re running KDE stuff on *BSD. Or on Windows, for that matter…

(eg: I use Kate on windows as my primary text editor on my work computer…)

hottari, in The Distro Wars are good actually.?

A distro isn’t just a way to interact with the Linux operating system. It’s a collection of tools that helps you do it. Some tools are just sharper that others. The community just likes debating about this important nuance. It’s not that complicated.

My tools of choice come from the famous blue logo distro.

theshatterstone54,

Blue logo distro

Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?

(Fedora, Arch, Kubuntu, Zorin, ElementaryOS, ArcoLinux and surely many more I’m forgetting)

BackOnMyBS,
@BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world avatar

I think it’s fairly obvious that they mean Arch because they are sharing which distro they use without being prompted, which is inline with a common running joke about doing the same thing, btw.

hottari,

Out of them all, the most famous one is the one I use. Kept the name a bit of a mystery to avoid the resultant argument about it btw.

theshatterstone54,

No point, the btw gave it away

DasSkelett,

Ah, clearly Fedora then.

Auli,

Sure except every district has the same tools. I distribute is more of a toolbox then a tool.

ErnieBernie10,

Fedora? 🙂

neytjs, in Why do you use the terminal?

I use the terminal in a variety of circumstances (like working on Node.js and other programming projects) where there is either no good GUI alternative or using a CLI is actually faster. I’ve been using computers since 1989 and my first operating system was MS-DOS, so the thought of using a CLI when necessary doesn’t bother me.

Frederic, in Does `cp -v` print out the file name when it starts copying it or when it's done?

I think the one being currently copied? take a look at github.com/coreutils/coreutils/blob/…/cp.c :)

flux,

Another way to check is to


<span style="color:#323232;">strace cp testfile testfile2
</span>

and the sequence in which the message is printed and operations performed can be studied.

It’s perhaps a lot to read, but linux tracing tools are worth learning!

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