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TCB13, in Best Linux distro for gaming on a crappy integrated graphics old PC?
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What games are we talking about? If they’re Windows games you may be better using Windows, no extra overhead and complexities.

KISSmyOS,

It depends. Old Windows games actually work better in Wine than on modern Windows.
Newer games usually work out of the box via Steam and Proton, often with better performance than on Windows. Especially on a pc with ATI graphics.
AAA titles with anticheat often don’t work, but it doesn’t sound like that’s what OP is after.

TCB13,
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It depends. Old Windows games actually work better in Wine than on modern Windows.

Never saw this happening. Also wine has overhead.

Patch, (edited )

Wine doesn’t have any inherent overhead. It’s a native reimplementation of the Windows APIs (and not an emulator), so there’s no inherent overhead compared to Windows itself. It can be faster or it can be slower, but this has more to do with optimisation and implementation than anything inherent.

kurcatovium,

Well, I’m playing Fallout: New Vegas on linux right now and it works way better than other Bethesda games I’ve played on windows. And FNV has a reputation of being really glitchy/buggy with lots of crashes. Yes, it crashed twice so far, but for 70+ hours and constant alt+tabbing it doesn’t sound that bad!

wombatula,

The entire point of this post is I want to leave windows, I am sick and tired of microsoft spyware and bloatware slowing my already old computer down, and Windows 10 will not be supported for much longer.

Seriously why do you think I even brought up switching to linux if I wasn’t trying to leave windows?

TCB13,
@TCB13@lemmy.world avatar

I am sick and tired of microsoft spyware and bloatware slowing my already old computer down

You know this can be changed right? Windows 10 Enterprise + www.w10privacy.de/english-home/ + …microsoft.com/…/manage-windows-21h2-endpoints

wombatula,

Yeah, I’ve tried, and it doesn’t help. Also that does nothing for the fact that they are going to stop supporting Win10 sooner than later, and since my computer won’t run Win11 that means losing all security. Not to mention the microsoft using my data for nefarious reasons, constantly adding new bloatware garbage, and harvesting my data to use to train their AI.

I am done with windows, I am done with microsoft, and why am I having to explain my reasons and motivations for this in the Linux lemmy of all places? Do you work for microsoft or something???

TCB13,
@TCB13@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, I’ve tried, and it doesn’t help

You didn’t try hard enough. Windows 10 Enterprise with that app + manual tweaks in group policy described by Microsoft can be turned into a system that does zero reporting / calling home and one that runs very smoothly. For what’s worth you’ll spend less time changing those settings than what the time it takes to have a usable desktop experience under Linux with a few games working.

they are going to stop supporting Win10 sooner than later

Current EOL for Windows 10 Enterprise is 14 Oct 2025 and there’s a petition going on to extend it.

Do you work for microsoft or something???

Of course I do, soon to be instated as CTO at Microsoft.

wombatula,

Literally why are you even here? I am not interested in your bullshit, I am done with windows, and I don’t understand why the fuck you seem to feel the need to argue with me and disrespect me. Microsoft doesn’t care about any petition, linux works fine for every game I play, and you are being an aggressive douche to me in your Microsoft dick sucking fanboyism.

Go find a better hobby, you should be blocked from this sub for being such a troll.

TCB13, (edited )
@TCB13@lemmy.world avatar

and you are being an aggressive douche to me in your Microsoft dick sucking fanboyism.

What, you make me laugh. Someone is touchy. Now seriously and just to be clear I don’t work for Microsoft and I don’t like their bullshit nor I endorse it and I would rather never touch their solutions in my life.

However, I’m not “delusional” about Linux desktop nor I’m so out of touch with Windows’ reality to the point I say that you can’t disable the spyware like you did - because you can do it and you can also prove it with Wireshark.

Microsoft doesn’t have your best interests in mind, that’s for sure, they won’t probably care about the petition but at the end of the day history repeats itself and there will be a lot of companies and governments using Windows 10 that will essentially make them (pay) to extend its lifetime. About spyware, those same countess companies and government agencies force Microsoft to have group policy settings to disable the “spyware” otherwise they can’t use it. In short, Microsoft has all the right incentives to properly document Windows’ spyware and develop options to disable it.

kylian0087, (edited ) in So... how to fix this?

Tip for when you need to use the power button and do a force shutdown. Try the following first Alt+SysRq r>e>i>s>u>b

blog.kember.net/…/2008-04-reisub-the-gentle-linux…

SomethingBurger,

Raising Elephants Is So Utterly Boring

MimicJar,
@MimicJar@lemmy.world avatar

I always preferred BUSIER backwards. It’s shorter and alliterative., but whatever helps you remember.

ElderWendigo,

I’ve always just dropped down into a different virtual terminal with CTRL+ALT+F#, killed the bad process and/or just rebooted from there. Is that not a thing anymore? I haven’t had to do it in so long because of improved stability and not using the DE on my server much, so maybe I’m out of the loop.

SomethingBurger,

Sometimes it’s not possible if everything crashed.

turbowafflz,

Annoyingly sysrq is disabled on a lot of distributions by default now, so you often have to manually enable it for this to work

kylian0087,

It is? I never noticed it being disabled honestly.

turbowafflz,

At least arch and opensuse do, I haven’t used anything else much lately

kylian0087,

Those are exactly the ones i never noticed sysrq being disabled. I use the resisub quite often on tumblweed. and used to on arch.

Strit,
@Strit@lemmy.linuxuserspace.show avatar

Seems correct: wiki.archlinux.org/title/Keyboard_shortcuts#Kerne…

SystemD defined default it looks like.

bec,
@bec@lemmy.ml avatar

That’s very useful, I’ll try it next time, thanks for the tip!

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Petter1, in Imagine Linux on an Arm SoC that benchmark better than Apple's M2 Max!

I hope for Microsoft to just give up and build a new "windows“ which is just an other Linux distro xD

Ducking windows can’t even clone the Linux kernel right now

jsh,

That’d be based, but I don’t think there’s anything in that for them.

Petter1,

Well, I’m sure they find a way.

Duxon,

They’re a platform company that provides services. They could build proprietary services on top of a Linux distro. Basically the same as they’re doing now with Edge.

Cysioland, (edited )
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They’ll probably sooner embrace-extend-extinguish Linux with WSL

vanderbilt,
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IIRC Microsoft’s woes in the ARM space is two-fold. First is the crushing legacy compatibility and inability to muster developers around anything newer than win32, and second was signing a deal to make Qualcomm the exclusive ARM processors for Windows for who knows how long.

the_lone_wolf,
@the_lone_wolf@lemmy.ml avatar

Deal is going to expire in 2024!

calmluck9349, in GitHub - SerenityOS/serenity: The Serenity Operating System 🐞
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Horsey, (edited ) in Imagine Linux on an Arm SoC that benchmark better than Apple's M2 Max!

I can’t wait for the hardware Android continuity… that’s the only thing I’m waiting on now to switch to Android besides the raw performance being equal.

smileyhead,

Hardware continuity, what do you mean?

alphapuggle, in Is an unknown supervisor password for ThinkPad bios an issue if I've already installed linux?

Try this

bios-pw.org doesn’t explicitly say it supports any Lenovo products, but I’ve had luck using them with Dell products before. No clue if this will work for you or if it’s a generic article meant to suck you in and grab ad revenue.

BrownianMotion, in Is an unknown supervisor password for ThinkPad bios an issue if I've already installed linux?
@BrownianMotion@lemmy.world avatar

…lenovo.com/…/ht036206-types-of-password-for-thin…

Reset forgotten supervisor password

If you forget your supervisor password, Lenovo cannot reset your password. You must take your computer to a Lenovo Service Provider to have the system board replaced.

GarytheSnail, in What's new in Fedora Workstation 39
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I dont like how gnome doesn’t make buttons look like buttons. It’s just text that you hope is clickable.

db2, in Why aren't linux hardware shops on Ubuntu's certified hardware list?

At a guess, probably because the ones made with Linux in mind aren’t the ones you won’t be sure of.

onlinepersona,

I’m not sure I follow. Won’t be sure of what?

boblin,

Take a machine with Linux preinstalled. Will it run Linux without problems? Yeah, of course.

Take a machine with Windows preinstalled. Will it run Linux without problems? Check the list.

RickyRigatoni,
@RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml avatar

Counterpoint: All the hardware and software with broken official linux support with the justification of “linux users can fix it themselves they’re used to it”.

rufus, (edited )

I don’t think that is how these programs work. Community made lists an Wikis, yes. But this requires some corporate contracts, money being paid and some laptop samples being send to a laboratory where they will be kept for years and continuously tested for years. I suppose it’s going to be quite pricey and no-one will do that to a random windows laptop. Unless someone says I’m going to buy 7000 of those if they have that ‘certified’ sticker on them.

But I get how a company like Sytem76 would say, we won’t pay for that, we have Linux in our name and are just selling to consumers.

This certification program is for big companies that have requirements and contracts. They need to buy certified stuff. It’s not meant for consumers or small companies at all. That’s also why the featured laptops are a shiny Dell XPS 13 and a Thinkpad P16. Something you’d find at work.

Well more than half of that list is Dell products. Followed by some Lenovo and HP. That’s it. (except for servers.)

ook_the_librarian,
@ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world avatar

When I bought a system76, I didn’t think for a second to check whether it was on Canonical’s list. I didn’t even know there was a certification.

So I believe the poster meant, a buyer can be sure they are getting hardware with linux support regardless of a list kept by ubuntu. But if you are buying from a brand that has no pledge to be linux friendly, a list of what works out of what’s available helps.

user224, in Linux holds more than 8% market share in India, and it's on the upward trend
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August 2022

Old data, man.
https://i.imgur.com/jtKYVLN.jpg
It’s even better now.

morrowind,
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Those wild spikes don’t give me a lot of confidence in the data

velox_vulnus,

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  • ShitOnABrick,
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    This makes alot of sense I’ll imagine the folk using Linux aren’t using it out of choice but out of necessity due to linux being kinder to older hardware

    morrowind,
    @morrowind@lemmy.ml avatar

    That explains the popularity of “unknown OS” but not why it swings so wildly

    XTornado,

    Uhm what’s re they using for this report… I would have assumed they would have gone with just taking the User Agent and similar which I guess that wouldn’t matter on the modifications you say.

    velox_vulnus,

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  • XTornado,

    Yeah sure but you usually fake a real existing one so it would go into one of the categories not the Unknown.

    kalleboo, (edited )

    The biggest spikes look like the correspond to new year. So my guess is that the spikes are vacations and show the difference between home PC and office PC usage.

    You can see the same spikes on e.g. Googles IPv6 chart - when people are away from work IPv6 penetration goes up, when people are at work it goes down.

    Sir_Simon_Spamalot,

    Damn, that’s a lot, and within a year too!

    Also, at least half of that ‘unknown’ is probably Linux too.

    folak, in Best Linux distro for gaming on a crappy integrated graphics old PC?

    Which game do you play ?

    wombatula, (edited )

    Lots, mostly older ones.

    Edit

    Why downvote? Am I supposed to give a list of every game I play? What does it matter to you?

    folak,

    Yes you have to give the list of your game because a lot of game (specialy multiplayer) doesn’t work on linux. See : www.protondb.com and areweanticheatyet.com

    wombatula,

    Look, this is gonna sound rude and maybe it is, but I am not a fucking moron and I know that’s how it works. I specifically stated that I have used linux in the past, and I can easily google any specific game and find out if it does or doesn’t work.

    I was asking what distro is best for people to give current opinions on the subject, not because I cannot google very basic cut and dry info. I appreciate that you are trying to help but I am not about to sit here for hours typing the name of every game I might be interested in playing, so that someone else can read it and check it for me, were you about to spend your entire night checking games I listed for me? Of course you weren’t, and the entire idea of either of us doing that is insane.

    With all due respect, if you have any opinion on which distro is currently the best for gaming feel free to share it, don’t waste both our times with useless basic linux info that I already knew about.

    GustavoM, (edited ) in Custom shell prompt tips and tricks?
    @GustavoM@lemmy.world avatar

    Use PS1=“▌t▐nw→” to display your local time each time you press enter. And make aliases of lengthy commands such as alias internettest=“curl -s https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sivel/speedtest-cli/master/speedtest.py | python -” (You need to install python to run this.)

    Vqhm, in Is an unknown supervisor password for ThinkPad bios an issue if I've already installed linux?

    It won’t matter that much UNLESS a specific setting you might want is disabled such as virtualization.

    Consider checking now if virtualization is enabled or disabled. If your BIOS settings are fairly permissive it isn’t that big of a deal. But if they are restrictive it can make it a pain in the ass to work around.

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