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OsrsNeedsF2P, in November Plasma 6 update

The return of the Desktop Cube effect (Vlad Zahorodnii)

Yes

squaresinger, (edited ) in System76’s Lemur Pro Laptop Is Just a Really Nice Linux Laptop

Sounds like a great laptop to run Windows on /s

Edit: quite surprising how many people don’t understand the /s.

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

I like how not even the “/s” saved you from the brainless.

squaresinger,

I guess, they, for some reason, do want people to run Windows on that machine^^

Or they are triggered so hard, that they couldn’t even understand the /s anymore when they got to that point of the sentence.

lud,

It’s just a bad joke.

possiblylinux127,

You can. There’s nothing stopping you

squaresinger,

I thought the /s should have been enough to tell everyone that this was a joke, but apparently not.

demonsword, (edited )
@demonsword@lemmy.world avatar

/s denotes sarcasm, which isn’t always a funny thing

possiblylinux127,

I think the precursor to a joke is that it has to be at least somewhat funny. Your joke is just a statement

DigitalPortkey,

And not even a remotely creative statement. 🙄

JoMiran, in System76’s Lemur Pro Laptop Is Just a Really Nice Linux Laptop
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

I just can’t get over the 1080p screen. It’s the one thing that’s always held me back from buying a System 76.

Acters,

Is it possible to buy a display off some marketplace with the same connector, and hopefully, the display controller plays nice with the motherboard?

JoMiran,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

I guess, but at that point you might as well get a different laptop rather than void the warranty if the System 76.

kevin,

Upgrading/tinkering doesn’t void your warranty. Explicitly.

And their customer service is top notch. I thought I bricked my gazelle when I upgraded the memory, but their customer service walked me through how to fix it - didn’t even bat an eye.

dan,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

Upgrading/tinkering doesn’t void your warranty. Explicitly.

This is generally true with everything in the USA (covered by the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act) even though companies are sketchy about it and try to convince people that it’ll void their warranty. The manufacturer has to prove that your upgraded part was the direct cause of the issue you’re trying to claim under warranty.

JoMiran,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

TIL

kevin,

I did not know that - my point is that system76 is not at all sketchy about it. They actively encourage tinkering, make it clear that you won’t void your warranty, and have extensive technical documentation to explain how to do upgrades etc

dan,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

I love companies like that. The world needs more of them.

MonkCanatella,

They sell laptops with 4k screens.

timicin,

i can’t get over how much more they cost than a similarly spec’ed mac with macs being superior in every single benchmark (except privacy and customizability)

erwan,

Mac are only competitive on the smallest configuration, as you start to add the same options to each the Mac pricing goes through the roof while this one’s price will only increase by a bit.

JoMiran, (edited )
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

My rule of thumb is HP for corporate clients that require Windows. ThinkPad for Linux running Pop!_OS Nvidia. Mac for music. Right tool for each job.

The pricing I think is a scale thing. System 76 is a small brand building systems, mostly stateside.

dylanmorgan,

My bet is that it’s to preserve battery life. Driving hi-res screens takes power.

MonkderZweite,

My 2018er Thinkpad x1 carbon has 1920x1080 and runs over 10 hours. And has better hw suppport than this “Linux Laptop”.

folkrav, (edited )

I’m curious. What do you prefer, some larger res with resolution scaling? How’s the scaling situation on DEs/WMs nowadays? Last I tried it, it was pretty abysmal. Admittedly it was years ago, but it used to be that mixed scaling wasn’t possible, so if my laptop was higher DPI and needed scaling, I’d need to run any external monitor with display scaling as well. I’ve avoided high DPI/display scaling on purpose for a while at this point because of it, and tend to prioritize usable pixel real estate.

JoMiran,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

That’s the odd part. I run Pop!_OS on a ThinkPad with a 4K touch screen at 175% scaling and it looks beautiful. The scaling on the DE is superb. I don’t understand why they don’t offer a HiDPI option on their laptops.

folkrav,

And it works fine with multiple monitors at different scaling ratios, or does it scale them all the same? That’s the actual part that didn’t work correctly for me, back then.

JoMiran,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

No problem. I have three screens, the built-in at 175%, the attached 1440p at 100% and the 1080p also at 100%.

folkrav,

Well damn. Interesting. Thanks!

Nyanix,
@Nyanix@lemmy.ca avatar

Also a great way to get more performance and increase battery life. On a laptop, most folks would be hard pressed to see the difference between 1080p and a higher resolution.

floofloof, (edited )

I’m using OpenSUSE Tumbleweed on a Dell XPS 13 9360 with a 3300x1800 13" screen and Wayland, and it works fine. There was one application (Sublime Merge) where I had to edit some scaling configuration settings, and there’s one tray-based tool (Jetbrains Toolbox) that comes up tiny, but for everything else the global scaling setting in KDE has done a fine job. It also handles dual monitors with different resolutions.

I don’t like 1080 screens because small text becomes unreadable more quickly on them. It’s less of an issue with a small screen, but it still counts against a machine for me.

folkrav, (edited )

Whatever works for you haha. Admittedly, I’m the kind of guy that’s running a 34" ultra wide + two 22" monitors on top, and is looking at replacing them with a single 42-43" 4k monitor right now just to have the equivalent of a bezelless 2x2 grid of 21" monitors lol. And they’re all budget/business monitors. So I may not be a reference on display quality… I’m obsessed with having tons of things on screen at once. The ADHD object permanence issues (“out of sight, out of mind” is my default state) might have something to do with it…

I’ll have to check it out again then, if display scaling got better since.

danielton,

The awful screen is one big reason I don’t use my System76 laptop more often. It’s the worst laptop screen I’ve ever seen, has terrible light bleed, and has a pink tint. And this is the warranty replacement they tried to charge me for. The first one had the same awful screen, but kept freezing on me randomly.

And the damn thing STILL has hardware features that only work on Windows 10, five years later (like multi-finger trackpad gestures). I’ll take System76 seriously when they start putting good screens in their laptops and get rid of nvidia.

antisoupbarrier,

Multi finger trackpad gestures work fine on PopOS? I’ve had no issues with them on my XPS 13…

danielton,

Great. I’m not using a Dell. I have a laptop from a company that supposedly supports Linux first. A company I will not be buying anything from in the future either.

possiblylinux127,

Really? I love the scream on my labtop. It isn’t super high resolution or anything but its readable in the sun and is pretty color actuate

stella,

Dang, looks like you got got.

fuggadihere, in System76’s Lemur Pro Laptop Is Just a Really Nice Linux Laptop

Modern standby really took things backward for x86 laptops

Fizz,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

What’s modern standby?

hardaysknight,

IIRC it’s something about not actually going to S3 sleep to keep stuff like networking alive

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble,

Your CPU never actually sleeps, it stays in S0 (on). The CPU is still active and doing things, but it’s in a “low power state”.

In quotes because it’s not low power at all. On one of my laptops S0 standby gets worse battery life than just actually being on.

Fizz,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

Speak for your own cpu. Mine definitely takes naps every time I try open Firefox

SkySyrup,

Yeah I mean I get C-states for things that idle a lot, like homeservers, but i still don’t see the reasoning for outright replacing traditional suspend on computers. Now you have to worry if some random pcie device is going to up your consumption by 5 watts during suspension. Well, at least that’s only a big issue on laptops.

Sorry for rambling

RedBauble, (edited ) in Linux on a 2in1 for Uni

I bought a used Thinkpad Yoga 370, with a 7th gen i5, 8gb ram (single slot sodimm, which is a real pity) which I later upgraded to 16gb. Also the pen slots right into the frame of the laptop for storage and recharging, so you don’t need to carry it around separately, though it may be a bit small for some people. I personally find myself comfortable with it.

I went right to arch (btw), as I was on both on my old laptop and my desktop, the archwiki has a page dedicated to this laptop, listing which features work and which don’t. If you mess around with the fingerprint sensor and python-validity package you can get it to work, but I don’t use it anyway. The rest works out of the box, though I have never tried the modem (my version lacks antennas and the module) and the express card reader.

I use xournal++ to take notes in uni. I tend to make a huge journal for each course (easily 150+ pages at the end of the semester), so make sure to disable autosaves as sometimes they hang up the whole program while trying to save.

At first I was using gnome on wayland, which has pretty good palm rejection, autorotation and sensor/webcam remapping and works great out of the box in general. Later moved to i3 on xorg as somehow a tiling window manager made more sense to me on a touchscreen device (android is kind of a tiling window manager if you think about it). Currently on i3, using touchegg to use custom gestures for the WM and specific programs. I am currently wondering whether to move to hyprland as I noticed slightly worse palm rejection on i3/xorg when compared to gnome/wayland (still very usable though), but I still want a tiling window manager and customizable touch gestures, which Hyprland should have a plugin for.

I general I find this laptop great, the x1 yoga should be good too, but I have never tried it on linux.

taanegl, (edited ) in So... how to fix this?

Firstly, check the logs directly to get a more concise error that we can analyse. journalctl is the standard systemd logging client you can use in the terminal. By specifying the unit (units can be socket files, timers, services) you can get logs specifically for said unit.


<span style="color:#323232;">journalctl -u udisks2.service
</span>

You can also specify binary, if said binary logs to journalctl, like so (if the binary path exists):


<span style="color:#323232;">journalctl /usr/lib/udisks2/udisksd
</span>

You can also check kernel messages (dmesg) by using the -k flag, like so:


<span style="color:#323232;">journalctl -k
</span>

You can utelize flags such as -e to scroll to the end of a journal, -f to follow a journal in realtime and utelize the -p flag to set priorities like error, crit, warning (-o error) and others to filter away common journal entries so you don’t have to scroll through every line in the log.

Secondly, and this is gonna sound weird, but reboot into windows twice. The first time you boot windows run diskchk on the partition(s) in terminal/powershell/command as administrator. If it tells you it needs to do an offline scan, reboot and you’ll see an offline diskchk screen on boot before login. If not, reboot again into windows anyways, and then reboot into Linux.

The reason is that NTFS has a weird failsafe flag that NTFS on Linux considers a no-go, and it’s usually set if the system crashes more than twice, but not always. If Linux NTFS drivers see the flag, it won’t mount as a precaution. The only way to reset the flag is to reboot in windows twice. Not once, not three times, but twice.

This might be outdated info, but that was the fact some years ago. There might be a way to fix it with modern day Linux, but I don’t know, especially when I have no direct and informative errors to go by.

journalctl is your friend :)

PrivateNoob, in Best distro for my Laptop?

Dell laptops are usually pretty good in Linux support afaik so go with whatever you like.

CalicoJack, in Best distro for my Laptop?

You should be fine on basically anything. I have a similar-spec machine running Arch with KDE and it’s rock solid.

nobloat, (edited ) in Best distro for my Laptop?

Software information says you’re already using Fedora ? Do you mean you want to switch distros ? If so, it’ll be useful to say what you’re looking for and why Fedora didn’t fulfill those needs so we can recommend alternatives.

alt, (edited ) in Best distro for my Laptop?

We would love to help you! But please consider helping us by providing more information:

  • Do you actually want to switch distros? Or just interested in what’s out there?
  • If Fedora 39 didn’t satisfy you, then what exactly is bothering you?
  • What is it that you seek from your distro? Being out of the way? Freedom? Polish? Blank slate? Security? Privacy? Ease-of-use? Up-to-date? Big repos? etc
Synopsis0795,

I have distro-hopped before so i don’t mind switching

I need a distro which is package-agnostic since i use a lot of old ooen source academic software and they alternate between being only supported on RHEL or Ubuntu

Fedora 39 is great except when i need to build the above mentioned software from source and i spend 2 hrs failing to match the dependencies from Ubuntu

Also want to improvey laptop’s battery life, but i think i can’t get it much better than in Fedora

alt,

Thank you for responding!

I need a distro which is package-agnostic since i use a lot of old ooen source academic software and they alternate between being only supported on RHEL or Ubuntu

Perhaps you should look into container solutions like e.g. Distrobox. You can basically install/run any package; just ensure usage of the correct container environment.

Fedora 39 is great except when i need to build the above mentioned software from source and i spend 2 hrs failing to match the dependencies from Ubuntu

If you’re otherwise content with Fedora, then perhaps consider installing the aforementioned Distrobox; which happens to be found within Fedora’s repos and thus one sudo dnf install distrobox away from being installed on your machine.

Also want to improvey laptop’s battery life, but i think i can’t get it much better than in Fedora

I’d argue that Fedora is not best for battery life, though. Minimalist distros tend to be a lot better at this. Installing auto-cpufreq in Fedora Silverblue on my AMD-powered laptop did come with significant improvements, so perhaps you could prolong your battery life by utilizing it or similar programs; think of TLP, thermald etc to name a few.

Synopsis0795,

Thank you for the fast reply

I looked into distrobox and checks all the boxes but there is the issue of my lack of storage space(currently only 130 GB left out of 240)

Also thank you for the suggestions regarding battery life, will look into those.

alt, (edited )

I looked into distrobox and checks all the boxes but there is the issue of my lack of storage space(currently only 130 GB left out of 240)

It can definitely fill up space if you’re not careful. Just ensure that only the minimal amount of containers and their respective images are on the system.

I would assume one container each for Ubuntu and Arch should suffice for most people. Sure; this will likely take up to 10 GB of extra storage in total (eventually), but foregoing this solution means that you’d likely have to settle for Arch (because of the AUR) or something like Gentoo (because no other distro does compiling and building from source like Gentoo does).

If you feel particularly adventurous, you could also consider Nix and/or NixOS; though you’d have to ensure that said packages are available as a nixpkg. Nix can also be installed on Fedora; consider Determinate Systems’ installer for that*.

MonkCanatella, (edited ) in System76’s Lemur Pro Laptop Is Just a Really Nice Linux Laptop

The Lemur Pro starts at $1,150 for an Intel i5 machine with 8 GB of RAM and a 256-GB SSD.

Seems a bit expensive no? About dead on with macbook air pricing

if you’re strictly looking at value, it’s a better value to buy a macbook air with m2 and the same stats and just install linux on it.

steal_your_face,
@steal_your_face@lemmy.ml avatar

Only asahi linux works on Apple m chips right? Is it even stable?

MonkCanatella,

Ah shit, you’re right, pardon my ignorance.

herrvogel,

No. Asahi unfortunately has a long way to go. Last I checked it didn’t even have proper audio.

possiblylinux127,

I’m pretty sure system76 will would way better with Linux.

los_chill,

I was doing a similar breakdown back when I bought my System76. The difference was upgradability. If I ever thought I might need more RAM I’d have to buy that up front on the MacBook air, putting its price over 1,700 off the shelf for the max ram. System76 cost close to the base MacBook air model, but I can add RAM and upgrades at my choosing, find the best price, and install them myself when I need them. That was worth it for me.

Tak,
@Tak@lemmy.ml avatar

The issue is that the M1 (M2 and M3) chips are way more efficient than X86 chips and they gets really good battery life compared to standard PC hardware. So I can hate on the software, the price, the lack of expand-ability, and so much more but I can’t get that efficiency anywhere else.

System76 doesn’t have some massively efficient ARM chip and system to separate them from any other windows laptop maker I just put linux on. You buy System76 because you like System76. I can live with that and I am very willing to spend more for less in places I feel matter.

nathris,

For the nearly $1500 spec they tested you can basically get a Framework 16, with much better upgradability and a 2560x1600 165hz vrr display.

MonkCanatella,

Yeah actually much better comparison.

ArcaneSlime,

I’m looking for a new laptop and really don’t know much about hardware these days (been running my old 2015 toshiba sattellite lol, I usually just have hand-me-downs), but I’m looking at getting something that doesn’t make me sacrifice my firstborn to an eldritch being to change the goddamn battery. So far I have sys76 and framework on the list, are there any other manufacturers I should also look at? And any reasons I should or should not get a laptop from any of these companies (like this one above, which is a point for framework)?

governorkeagan,

I was looking at getting a laptop from System76 but the shipping to Europe is insane. I’ve heard some good things about Tuxedo Computers. I don’t have personal experience with any of them so can’t comment on that

stella,

It’s definitely ridiculously expensive.

onlinepersona,

Install linux on the m2? Is Asahi linux good enough to daily drive already? 😮

(Also, why give Apple money?)

wfh, in Why aren't linux hardware shops on Ubuntu's certified hardware list?

This is corporate-grade stuff. That’s why only Dell, HP and Lenovo bothered certifying their laptops. They hold an oligopoly for fleet laptops.

onlinepersona,

Hmm… it would make sense for the linux vendors to get on the corporate list then, no?

wfh,

No chance.

Imagine, you’re in a large company and buying (or more likely, leasing) several thousands laptops each year. This is corporate world, you need to minimize expense, downtime and failing that, someone to blame.

You need to have a supplier with sales, 24/7 support and logistics in your country. Who has stock available at all times is able to replace any broken piece of equipment in less than a business day. Even if you keep a small inventory at hand, this inventory needs to be replaced quickly.

Trust me, corpos never buy from small vendors. They always go to the big brands.

joel_feila, in Firealpaca (Proprietary Painting Software) Releases Linux Version
@joel_feila@lemmy.world avatar

Now how about medibang for linux

supervent, in Best distro for my Laptop?

I would say debian but as others said, are you on hopping distros? Do you have any problem with fedora 39?

Synopsis0795,

I have almost nothing to complain about Fedora, but more so about the dependancy hell i face while trying to build any of the software i require. I want something like NixOS but without the learning curve of learning config file syntax.

Chais, in Is an unknown supervisor password for ThinkPad bios an issue if I've already installed linux?
@Chais@sh.itjust.works avatar

You can either try to contact the seller and ask for the password or just erase the UEFI settings by shorting some jumper or something. There should be instructions how to do that for your specific model.

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