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danielfgom, in Ending support for Windows 10 could send 240 million computers to the landfill. Why not install Linux on them?
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It will be mostly Enterprise upgrading. The average consumer buys the cheapest laptop they can get. They won’t be upgrading. I think nowadays not many average consumers even use computers. They just do everything on a phone.

krolden,
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Most enterprise is going to continue to pay for extended windows 10 support especially for things like embedded control systems running windows 10 ltsc/iot.

danielfgom,
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It’s 50/50. The last Enterprise I worked at they would NEVER agree to pay that. They’d rather get new machines

catastrophicblues, in Just moved to Linux: a follow up

Borked your bootloader already? You’re a true Linux user lol. You’ll eventually learn to not do that (and back up regularly).

Good choice with Fedora! I love dnf and the choices Fedora makes overall.

MigratingtoLemmy, in KDE Plasma Mobile 6 Porting Underway

I would love to be able to use a Linux mobile as my primary but I know that’s not going to happen, unfortunately.

Contend6248, (edited )

Maybe some tech giant pumping money in a 3rd eco-system would help, i think it’s very likely to happen one day

adam_b,

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  • MigratingtoLemmy, (edited )

    I believe PostmarketOS with the PinePhone Pro is a decent experience. Nope, it’s not. Don’t get it if you don’t want to contributr your time to the project. With that said, I’m not too confident on its usability, 2 years after its release. What do you run and what has your experience been like?

    iturnedintoanewt,
    @iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee avatar

    Is the PPP any good now? I have one in the drawer, it was mostly unusable when I bought it.

    asexualchangeling,

    Until it can run my banking app it’s unfortunately not a contender, no matter how much I want it

    viking,
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    Is there any specific use case for the app that you don’t get with the mobile website?

    I’ve figured out that my bank’s app is basically a wrapper for the mobile website, the only thing they added being fingerprint login.

    Instantly deleted the app and use the website now, one less thing that can potentially spy on me.

    SciPiTie,

    I have several bank accounts and at least here they all use their dedicated app for mandatory 2fa - Bastards…

    And yes, literally: don’t want to use our app? Don’t get an account with us!

    lambipapp,

    Everything in Sweden is authenticated through the same app ‘BankID’. We even have our passports in there.

    SciPiTie,

    Not saying that I’m jealous or anything but… I am. Please insert here a personal insult that would offend you adequately!

    dewritoninja,

    You can always run android apps using wayDroid

    PixxlMan,

    Would a banking app with specific authentication requirements really work through that though? Reliably too?

    dewritoninja,

    I can’t speak for all of them, but I’ve tried the 2 apps my bank has and they work great

    chayleaf,

    what do you even mean “don’t support encryption”? Do you mean FDE? In that case PostmarketOS supports it, and you can get any other distro to use FDE if you tinker hard enough

    Pantherina, in openSUSE Logo Contest Concludes With Winners Selected

    In Germany we would say

    verschlimmbessert

    ISOmorph,

    Nonono, we would say ‘‘Geschmackssache’’

    cashews_best_nut,

    Do you prefer stollen to have marzipan?

    jxk,

    Everybody prefers Stollen with Marzipan

    cashews_best_nut,

    I’m looking for that one freakie German who doesn’t

    odium, in How do I get Nviddia drivers to work in arch?
    Liz_thestrange,

    I’m reading again everything to see for something that could help, it’s look like optimus could be a solution, thanks

    warmaster,

    Indeed, since it’s a laptop. It uses the iGPU for battery saving graphics and the Nvidia dGPU for performance. That’s hybrid graphics / optimus.

    That said, Nvidia is a pain. I always recommend distrohopping until you land on a distro that mostly works for your use case and go from there.

    navigatron,

    Optimus gets complex quick. You’ll be reading pci bus ids before you know it. Keep the wiki open, go slowly; you got this :)

    wiki_me, in Linus Torvalds on the state of Linux today and how AI figures in its future

    That said, Torvalds continued, “Rust has not really shown itself as the next great big thing. But I think during next year, we’ll actually be starting to integrate drivers and some even major subsystems that are starting to use it actively. So it’s one of those things that is going to take years before it’s a big part of the kernel. But it’s certainly shaping up to be one of those.”

    I don’t know about that, languages which are based on standards (c++ , javascript, c) seem to have much better enduring popularity, i don’t want to see rust becoming less and less popular which will lead to less available developers (like what is happening with ruby).

    jaybone,

    Yeah… rust in the kernel scares me. Lol they are already worried about not having enough contributors, so…?

    onlinepersona,

    they = rust or the linux kernel?

    The linux kernel doesn’t have enough contributors because it’s really difficult + the entire organisational side of it works on antique tech (IRC and mailinglists). The majority of the project itself is also in C which has a horrible developer experience: linting, documentation, debugging, code completion, and the lack of a proper IDE. The entire development cycle is convoluted. How do you seriously want to attract people to the project if everything looks like it’s still in a development cycle of the 90s?

    If I were to discover a one-line bug in the kernel by reading it, actually testing the one-line fix would take me, as a newbie probably a solid week. Getting it into the kernel itself would probably take even longer.

    The kernel is also known for Linus’ outbursts and being filled with neckbeard elitists. The project in my eyes has an image problem.

    As for rust, if that’s what you meant, I’d be interested in knowing the source for not having enough contributors.

    hansl,
    0ops,

    I assumed that he was talking about the fact the the languages he listed have a lot of syntax in common with each other, and with a few other languages. I could be wrong though

    GustavoM,
    @GustavoM@lemmy.world avatar

    I too can’t wait to compile the kernel (and its modules) on cargo.

    ikidd,
    @ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

    I’ll prep my supercomputer.

    TheFriendlyArtificer,

    Speaking as a non Rustacean, I’m pretty okay with it becoming more integrated.

    It’s safe, performant, and isn’t any more difficult to pick up than C++. C has a weird aura about it that makes it seem intimidating despite the fact that it is the simplest language (macros notwithstanding) that I’ve ever used.

    Based on Google’s recent track record of mind-boggling incompetence on all fronts, I want Go kept as far away from core functionality as humanly possible. This leaves either adding more cruft to an already ungainly C++, continuing to use Boost (another Google product) with C, or to pivot to a more modern language.

    caseyweederman,

    Agreed re: Google.
    I dunno what the solution is. The world without Google is going to be a very different place. Do you think it’s even possible for them to turn things around?

    TheFriendlyArtificer,

    I think it would take a pretty major sea change for them. They technically split up into Alphabet, but I don’t know of a single person that actually uses that when describing them.

    Even if they did change things around, and I would wager that the entrenched bureaucracy will make that impossible, their name is toxic to a lot of tech nerds. We may be a minority, but we talk and people listen. Even the non techies in my life know that they can’t maintain a simple messaging app, responded to (rightful!) concerns about data loss by locking the support threads, and has jacked up the price of YouTube on a yearly basis.

    They’ve spectacularly failed at video game consoles, social media, banking/credit cards, IOT, messaging, video, and can’t even maintain a semblance of consistency in their office suite. At work I have three different ways to receive instant messages, and it’s a crapshoot as to which one a coworker will use.

    And let’s not even get into how absolutely useless their search is now that everything has been gamed by SEO. Duckduckgo has been my default for years, but now it’s consistently returning better results than big G.

    If they managed to correct course tomorrow, it would take multiple years for me to even begin to trust them again.

    caseyweederman,

    Yeah. Extremely unlikely and probably impossible.
    It’s incredible how very much they have been able to fail but still continue operating.

    testman, in "We are looking for Text-To-Speak (TTS) expertise to help or advise us on improving the default voice of the Linux desktop."

    Check if whatever is left of Mycroft AI has anything useful for you.

    franzcoz,
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    Mycroft is dead?

    semperverus,
    @semperverus@lemmy.world avatar

    Patent troll murdered them

    Deebster,
    @Deebster@programming.dev avatar

    Death by patent troll 😞

    franzcoz,
    @franzcoz@feddit.cl avatar

    What?? Noooo :(

    caseyweederman,

    Fuck

    Infiltrated_ad8271, in systemd 255 Released With A "Blue Screen of Death" For Linux Systems
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    • Hibernation into swap files backed by Btrfs are now supported.

    So, with btrfs on ssd, is there any use case for a swap partition?

    falsem,

    Use case is not having enough RAM?

    bdonvr,

    I think what they mean is that you can just make a swap FILE instead, which you can grow and shrink as needed. No need to mess with partitioning.

    Infiltrated_ad8271,
    @Infiltrated_ad8271@kbin.social avatar

    Yep. In fact my comment seemed so clear to me that I assumed it was some kind of joke, but looking at the votes, maybe swapfiles aren't as well known as I thought.

    lemmyvore,

    Swap is not “disk RAM”.

    falsem, (edited )

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_memory

    What would you describe it as? With virtual memory it pretty much functions that way, no?

    lemmyvore,
    wmassingham, (edited )

    I’m not sure what that post is meant to show, if swap isn’t “disk RAM”. That post even concludes:

    Swap […] provides another, slower source of memory […]

    lemmyvore,

    Um, you really need to read the entire phrase and not pick out only what you want from it. 😃

    Swap can make a system slower to OOM kill, since it provides another, slower source of memory to thrash on in out of memory situations

    It means that if you try to use it as a source of memory, when you run out of actual RAM it will make your system almost completely unresponsive due to disk thrash, instead of allowing the kernel to just kill the process that’s eating your RAM. So you’ll just end up hard-booting system.

    wmassingham,

    Yes, and that’s a good thing if you don’t want it to start killing processes. You have that extra time/space to deal with the out-of-memory condition yourself.

    Or you can ignore that condition and continue using the system in a degraded state, with swap as “disk RAM”.

    lemmyvore,

    Like I said, the system will be almost completely unresponsive due to disk access being several orders of magnitude lower than RAM and allocation thrashing… you won’t be able to do much, the mouse, keyboard and display will react extremely slowly. There may be situations where you’d prefer this to an OOM kill, for example if you’re running a test or experiment where you’d rather have it finish even if it takes a very long time rather than lose the data. But if you’re a regular desktop user or server admin you’ll probably just reboot.

    rotopenguin,
    @rotopenguin@infosec.pub avatar

    Do you mean that you don’t have to find the LBA of the extents of your swap file, and put that into a kernel argument anymore?

    Cuz that is a nasty, skanky hack.

    Infiltrated_ad8271, (edited )
    @Infiltrated_ad8271@kbin.social avatar

    I've never heard of that, it's beyond me. So it's an increased risk when tweaking the kernel? As an average home user it's all right?

    OsrsNeedsF2P, in This week in KDE: changing the wallpaper from within System Settings

    Interesting to see 3/5 “Very high priority Plasma bugs” bugs are X11

    GravitySpoiled,

    Why are they high priority then? 😅

    KSPAtlas,
    @KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz avatar

    Believe it or not, some people still use x11 (i dont, but many do for many reasons)

    warmaster,

    Could it be related to XWayland?

    onlinepersona, in What's your experience with bluetooth audio?

    Fuck Bluetooth. I’ve seen it multiple times this week that wireless headphones have failed on Linux, Mac, and Windows. “Shit, let me reconnect my headphones”. Also the switching from “high quality audio” to bullshit mono audio when calling.

    Fuck bluetooth.

    TheAnonymouseJoker, in Why didn't anyone remind me the dual booting exists?
    @TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

    Buy a $30 SSD and put Windows on it. Boot to SSD when you want to use Windows, and put it down the booting order list in BIOS, so Linux always gets booted by default.

    You will hear less about dual booting in Linux community because Windows loves to destroy GRUB bootloader, and also Windows is just becoming more and more annoying so there is a “nudging” or push to adopt Linux, forcibly or otherwise.

    JPAKx4,

    My current setup is two drives, a 500gb with windows and a 1tb sad with my Linux install on it. I set the 1tb to my first boot drive, so hopefully no windows shenanigans. I’m going to see if I can set up automatic backups soon just in case

    callyral,
    @callyral@pawb.social avatar

    wait, you can have two different systems, on two SSDs, on the same computer? this will be useful once i get to build my pc. Thanks!

    i’m guessing having windows on a separate drive will mean that it won’t break GRUB?

    Froyn,

    Muahaha, long ago had a system with a removable 5.25" HDD bay. Matching drives in enclosures, 1 linux, 1 windows. One "permanent" drive in the machine for user data.
    Super easy to swap between the OS when you're physically changing the first drive on the IDE chain.

    mateomaui, (edited )

    I triple boot Windows with a Debian distro and an Arch distro. Windows is on one drive with its boot loader there so it doesn’t mess with the linux boot loaders and vice versa, and the two linux distros and their boot loaders are on a second drive. Just make sure Windows is already there and the linux boot loaders will pick it up.

    bellsDoSing,

    Yeah, AFAIR, the issue of “windows messing up grub” could happen when it’s installed on the same disk (e.g. on a laptop with one disk). Something about it overwriting the “MBR sector”. At least that was a problem back before UEFI.

    I too have been dual booting Windows 10 and Linux for many years now, each having their own physical disk, Linux one always being first in boot order. Not once did a Windows 10 update mess up grub for me with this setup.

    TheAnonymouseJoker,
    @TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

    Many ThinkPad models have a separate extra M.2 WWAN slot for 4G SIM modem, something you can check with respective models’ PSREF sheet. You can put either 128 or 256 GB (whatever specified) M.2 SSD of sizes either 2230 or 2242, which I was able to do on my L470 (a very modern laptop).

    On a desktop, it is obviously easy, but on laptops, it depends, but you will find ThinkPads to be the most pro-consumer and pro-poweruser laptops.

    LeFantome, (edited )

    I think they may actually be suggesting that you let each OS be the primary OS and then just control which one you want via boot order in the BIOS.

    But yes, if Windows is able to install its boot loader on its own drive, it will not mess up the Linux boot loader on another drive. The Linux boot loader can detect Windows though and allow you to boot to it ( and Linux too of course ). That is why you make sure Linux boots first.

    YurkshireLad, in Why didn't anyone remind me the dual booting exists?

    I installed a second SSD into my new laptop and installed Debian on it. I set the new drive as the primary boot drive so windows doesn’t get a say and only loads when I select it from the boot menu. This way windows can’t trash the boot loader when it updates.

    DudeDudenson,

    So much this, having each OS in a separate drive saves so many headaches

    TeryVeneno, (edited ) in Why are there so many (rust) GTK apps and so little Qt ones?

    I think there’s a pretty big thing here that people are kinda missing and it’s the ease of app creation. Recently gnome has done a lot for app developers to make the experience really good. Workbench, gnome builder, biblioteca all combined with the ease of libadwaita and the gnome circle make app development significantly easier for gtk than qt. There’s a big community now with a lot of inertia. I think workbench has around 100 tutorials now or so. Super low barrier to entry. Also libadwaita is pretty.

    I already use gnome now, but even before I had settled on a DE, I took a look at both ecosystems and was heavily leaning towards gtk because of all these factors and against qt because of its reliance on c++. Until all of those factors are replicated well for qt (and by extension kde), I don’t think they’ll see the same level of development.

    bruhduh, in PipeWire 1.0 Released For Managing Audio/Video Steams On The Linux Desktop
    @bruhduh@lemmy.world avatar

    Hol up, 1.0? I’ve been using it and thought it was around for few years already

    waigl,

    In F/OSS, it is not unusual for software to stay below 1.0 version for a long time yet still get a lot of use. Just look at how long OpenSSL, for example, was at 0.9.something, while already being of crucial importance to a lot of internet infrastructure.

    The reasons for this are varied, but the most important is probably simply that free software developers don’t feel the pressure to call a product 1.0 when they don’t believe it is ready to be called that.

    Maestro, in Preparing to move from Ubuntu to Fedora
    @Maestro@kbin.social avatar

    Why not move to Debian? Ubuntu was born in a time when Debian stable had a really long release cycle and wasn't desktop ready. But times have changed. Debian is a great desktop without all of Canonical's Ubuntu "experiments" like snap.

    Aatube,
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    arch!endeavouros

    thayer,

    That still wouldn’t answer their dilemma of older versioning of packages, unless they went to Sid.

    Maestro,
    @Maestro@kbin.social avatar

    Debian stable has newer packages than Ubuntu LTS. Debian has pretty regular releases these days.

    joyofpeanuts,

    I second this. I have been using Ubuntu for at least 10 years by I really do not like snaps or flatpaks for that matter. So, after some disappointing attempts using Debian in the past, I had a new go at it 1-2 years ago and I was positively surprised: Ubuntu without the useless bloat - kind of normal because Ubuntu is based on Debian. For sure the my next PC will be using Debian: efficient, highly configurable, and quite user friendly once you understand it’s ways of configuring things.

    pound_heap,

    I see your point… I use Debian for my self-hosted environment, so having similar system on desktop may save some cognitive load. My main arguments against Debian are (maybe misinformed though):

    • No btrfs support in installer OK, Debian wiki says it’s there
    • Major annual upgrades to keep up with stable look more scary than more incremental and frequent updates of Fedora. And using Sid as someone suggested sounds too crazy for main PC

    So yeah, looks like it’s just upgrades… Gives me something to think about while I’m moving my apps to flatpaks

    GustavoM,
    @GustavoM@lemmy.world avatar

    This. Edit /etc/sources/apt, switch to sid, sudo apt update and you’ll have “a better ubuntu.”

    Pantherina,

    Crazy, that works?

    KISSmyOS, (edited )

    If you’re on Debian Stable, yes. On Ubuntu, hell no.

    GustavoM,
    @GustavoM@lemmy.world avatar

    Yep. Did this on my orange pi zero 3 (which has no support on Linux) and it worked. :^)

    KISSmyOS, (edited )

    If that worked, it was pure luck.
    Do NOT do this!

    Edit to clarify: Do not do this on Ubuntu!

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