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geekworking, in Text editor war

+1 for nano. I just need to change two parameters in a config file, not join a religion.

skyin7,

Amen!

Damage,

When the holy war comes, you’ll be among the first sacrifices!

nyahlathotep,
@nyahlathotep@sh.itjust.works avatar

Ehh, that’s fine. I’m not too psyched about living in whatever comes afterward.

IWantToFuckSpez,

Wouldn’t the first be Vimulation users? They are the Pretenders.

bingbong,

Blasphemers!

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

I just need to change two parameters in a config file, not join a religion.

But Nano is a GNU utility what use Ctrl-O for Save.

laurelraven,

No wonder I can never remember how to do anything in nano, at least vi’s commands generally make sense

Kusimulkku,

I recently switched to micro that is similar but with more sane key combos.

Now I just mistakenly use nano combos. Back to nano it is lol

glasgitarrewelt,

Nano is only helpfull because of this nifty little info bar at the bottom… No one can actually remember nano-shortcuts.

GBU_28,

Up down left and right?

I guess ctrlx enter y ? But it has a prompt

cyanarchy,

Consider micro. The shortcuts for editing test are what I expect them to be everywhere else I edit text.

cows_are_underrated,

Nano Shortcuts are shit. Like CTRL+X to save. What the fuck??? Why not use CTRL+S for this?

lemmyingly, (edited )

Ctrl + X is eXit. Ctrl + S is Save without a prompt.

state_electrician,

I had to learn vi because it was installed everywhere and nano didn’t exist yet. I always thought the holy war to be very silly, and even though many treat it as such, there are too many who take it seriously.

BeigeAgenda, (edited ) in Using Fedora Atomic is like...
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Pro tip: Use /var/lib/flatpak instead of /dev/null for a neater result, you avoid having to clean up spilled bits.

shapis, (edited ) in Text editor war
@shapis@lemmy.ml avatar

I wish I could just edit text files as sudo with the default gnome text editor instead.

bronxasaur,

Does ’sudo gedit’ not work?

Disclaimer: I use neither gnome nor gedit.

shapis,
@shapis@lemmy.ml avatar

Does ’sudo gedit’ not work?

If my memory doesn’t fail me it used to. But gedit isnt the default text editor anymore. The new one is quite cool and clean.

It doesnt work with sudo though sadly. It’s not the biggest problem tho, just a small annoyance, using the occasional sudo nano to edit files isnt a big deal.

SaltyIceteaMaker,

I heard that it is safer to do sudoedit [file] instead of sudo [editor] [file]. At least it’s like this in vim. Idk about nano and Emacs tho

caseyweederman,

sudo XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/1000 DISPLAY=:0 DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=/run/user/1000/bus XAUTHORITY=/home/caseyweederman/.Xauthority gedit

shapis,
@shapis@lemmy.ml avatar

sudo XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/1000 DISPLAY=:0 DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=/run/user/1000/bus XAUTHORITY=/home/caseyweederman/.Xauthority gedit

Reported for hacking.

Andrew15_5, (edited ) in Useless messenger
@Andrew15_5@mander.xyz avatar

You shouldn’t use this app in the first place. It had many data breaches and it copy everything from Telegram (maybe everyone copies, but I don’t use other apps). I only mainly use Telegram and Matrix.

n1ved,

It’s impossible to convince that to friends and family. In my country everyone use WhatsApp as primary messaging app . It’s kind of like iMessage situation in US

Andrew15_5,
@Andrew15_5@mander.xyz avatar

It’s nice that a lot of my surroundings have finally jumped to Telegram. Previously it was Viber (bleh). But it’s much hard to go to Matrix because it’s much much less feature rich and less polished then Telegram. I can easily use it as a basic text messenger, but that’s about it. So Telegram is a solid middle ground. Can’t wait for the multi server Matrix accounts.

pewgar_seemsimandroid,

im fine with my family using viber tbh since it isn’t owned by Facebook or Amazon

wingsfortheirsmiles,

I feel that, a good chunk of my friends are on Signal thankfully but all of my family still use WhatsApp

Rai,

iMessage For My Blue Friends, Signal For My Green Friends

Ziglin,

For me it’s the other way around :/

TimeSquirrel, (edited ) in Text editor war
@TimeSquirrel@kbin.social avatar

I ONLY EDIT TEXT BY TOGGLING OUT ASCII CODES ON A ROW OF SWITCHES DIRECTLY CONNECTED TO MY PARALLEL PORT\n

ziggurat,

I know your lying, because if you did, you would write a mix of capital and lower case letter, because one of the switches would control that bit

TimeSquirrel, (edited )
@TimeSquirrel@kbin.social avatar

I COULD ONLY AFFORD SIX SWITCHES. BIT 5 HAS A PULLDOWN RESISTOR ON IT\n

bobo,

This guy did it back in the 80s:

archive.org/details/…/2up?view=theater

Veneroso, in Text editor war

Nano, based.

If I use VI or VIM I’m going to have to kill the task because I just tried to exit and uggggghhhh why!?

captain_aggravated,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

:q! or :exit or :quit or ZZ…there’s lots of ways to quit Vim.

Jolteon,

None of which are the same methods used by other programs.

lseif,

and why should it be? vim and its bindings are extremely popular. should window managers all use alt+f4 to kill programs, just because its familiar to new users?

Sanyanov,

Yes.

Abnorc,

There’s really no point in criticizing something like vim. It has a history and a following, and no one is forcing you to use it. (Unless someone is, in which case you should be annoyed with them, not vim.)

cyanarchy,

Yes.

konalt,
@konalt@lemmy.world avatar

Should word processors all use Ctrl-C to copy?

dipshit, in Text editor war

Oh, vim. I wish I knew how to quit you.

Wilzax,

: q !

bort,

unless you accidentally pressed “q” to early and entered recording-mode…

pete_the_cat,

Only if you don’t want to save the file

:x saved the file and exits.

LainOfTheWired,
@LainOfTheWired@lemy.lol avatar

Or :wq

callyral,
@callyral@pawb.social avatar

or Shift + ZZ

Wilzax,

He said quit, not save and exit

bazzett,
@bazzett@lemmy.world avatar

ZQ

Damage, in Linux community be like ...

Dead horse

_cnt0,
MeanEYE, in Bye bye edge
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

Are we still forgetting that Win12 will have subscription? Or at least it might. Then their terms of agreement state clearly that they will collect your personal data and share them if they see the need for it. I mean there’s more to it than being able to uninstall IE.

Mako_Bunny,

Windows 12 is not going to require a subscription

MeanEYE,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

I too doubt this will be the case but there was a news report claiming Microsoft is contemplating such a thing.

hottari, in I am THIS close to joining the Chromium monopoly gang

Join the Chromium monopoly it is the superior browser. Aside from not having tab containers, it beats Firefox is almost every other way.

Sonotsugipaa,
@Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Yeah no tab containers is kind of a deal breaker, thanks for letting me know.

nogrub,

one word manifest v3

hottari,

Did you know Firefox has also adopted manifest V3.

nogrub,

oh no i didn’t know that seems like i live under a rock

Sonotsugipaa,
@Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I think that was because Google dropped the controversial part of it or something, idk for sure since I don’t even bother keeping up with web dev. There was the whole WEI stuff to make up for that…

Knusper,

Nah, Mozilla just won’t implement the arbitrary restriction that Google set for content/ad blocking. They’ll be 100% API compatible, without limiting how many blocking rules there can be, which is the only bad part about v3 (or really the deprecation of the unrestricted v2), as far as I’m aware.

Mozilla can also continue supporting v2 for as long as they like. And they can provide additional APIs, which they already do, which is why uBlock Origin is, in fact, already better on Firefox today: github.com/…/uBlock-Origin-works-best-on-Firefox

@nogrub @hottari

quantenzitrone, in Pick wisely

hail satan😈

TetHead, in Everyone loves snaps

OK I am more of a baby Penguin here, why do people hate Snap and Flatpack?

kogasa,
@kogasa@programming.dev avatar

Flatpak is fine. Snap is Canonical’s proprietary version, which ties you specifically to their app store. It’s not designed to be an open standard but Canonical has made it compulsory in one of the largest distros (Ubuntu) and its derivatives. There are also problems with its sandboxing mechanism competing with AppArmor.

lemann,

AppArmor and SELinux sandboxing stuff pushed me to only install services with Docker on my headless machines 😣 found out most services can’t write to their own homefolder

ILikeBoobies,

You could be a vet

People shouldn’t hate either

brenno,

This hate comes mostly from Linux communities like here and on Reddit. When you see actual numbers, both are widely used for production use. They have lots of active users as reported in their respective blogs and websites.

That said, it is aware that both had problems. Most hate towards Flatpaks that I can see is from purists that prefer their distro shipping their packages with dynamic dependencies and uprated by their package manager. Also there is complains with outdated runtimes and stuff like how sandboxing works.

Snaps has all problems than before with some extras. When they were released, because of compression, they were painfully slowly to open and they affected boot time. Nowadays this is mostly gone, but they still keep a proprietary store, inability to have multiple repositories (stores) and they don’t respect your home directory structure by placing a “snap” folder in your home.

Personally I use both and I’m happy with them. The proprietary store stuff does not bother me because I’m already trusting canonical binaries by using Ubuntu and they are easy to use and be productive with them.

CeeBee,

There was an Ubuntu developer that left Canonical about a year or so ago. His reason was that he had spent a number of years (possibly over a decade, can’t remember) optimizing some code and the kernel to get the fastest boot time possible.

Then he saw Canonical practically throw his work out the window by introducing snaps, which until recently was plagued by serious slowness on the first start of a snap.

He said it felt like his years of work just meant nothing at that point.

There are a number of reasons Flatpaks are a better open source option, even if they aren’t perfect.

Smoogs, in Pick wisely

Cool….circa 1990 game graphics. How quaint.

brothershamus, in Need to switch to Hanna Montana Linux now
@brothershamus@kbin.social avatar

what telemetry?

RmDebArc_5, (edited )
@RmDebArc_5@lemmy.ml avatar

Which version of Ubuntu you’re installing (including which flavour), Whether you have network connectivity, Hardware stats, including CPU, RAM, GPU, etc, Your device vendor (e.g., Dell, Lenovo, etc), Your country (based on the time zone you pick, not IP), How long your install took to complete, Whether you have auto login enabled, Your disk layout (how many hard drives and partitions you have), Whether you chose to install third party codecs, Whether you chose to download updates during install

(According to OMG!Ubuntu) Most distros offer optional telemetry, but Ubuntu’s is opt out not opt in (for GNOME you have to separately install the telemetry)

IsoKiero,

Ubuntu’s is opt out not opt in

I haven’t installed ubuntu in a while, but in EU you need to have prior consent from the user to gather any kind of data and if I remember correctly I haven’t seen such thing. And it’s not enough to bury that into documentation and say ‘if you use our software you allow us to blah blah’, you must get consent via an action from the user which spesifically allows that, so if telemetry comes silently with ‘apt dist-upgrade’ it’s not enough.

InFerNo,

I wish you the best in filing a complaint

brenno,

In Ubuntu in the post install screen theres is the telemetry screen where they explain it, allow you opt out and give you a json example of the data they’re collecting from your machine.

someacnt,

That sounds surprisingly tame list.

muntedcrocodile, in Pick wisely
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