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MentalEdge, in One of the few times I've downvoted
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A bit of an elitist gatekeeper, are we?

db2,

It’s a screenshot of a post by someone that fits that description. The OP here tried to show that but it isn’t clear.

MentalEdge, (edited )
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The original post is a perfectly humorous meme on the idea that “maybe enabling users doing things via gui isn’t a horrible idea”.

Posting a screenshot of someone else’s post, with a clearly negative note, in hopes of provoking… What? A hateful echo chamber around it?

There’s nothing funny here. It essentially just boils down to “look at how dumb this reasonable opinion exaggerated for comedic effect is” which is little more than toxic slander looking for validation.

TexMexBazooka,

I too consume my memes with a pinky out

mavu, in Completely untrue nowadays...

Just don’t buy HP/Epson/Canon.

Buy a Brother Laserprinter, and never worry again for the rest of your life.

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Trouble is, no parts for Brother over here 😔. HP has the market here and parts for them are dirt cheap.

Sure, I can order from AliExpress, but it’ll take months to arrive here.

Telodzrum, in It happens 🤷

People are still using GRUB to dual boot? It’s not 2010 anymore. systemd-boot is the objectively superior choice.

maryjayjay,

Is systemd-boot a bootloader?

Telodzrum,

It’s a boot manager, technically.

nixcamic,

How does it compare to refind?

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Good for people that use systemd… what about the rest of us…

Telodzrum,

All six of you Luddites? You figure it out.

0x4E4F, (edited )
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

You should really take a closer look at the Void user base…

Telodzrum,

Loud doesn’t mean numerous. Ubuntu, Mint, Debian, Fedora, Arch, and Manjaro take up almost all of the desktop install market.

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yeah, and it’s a big market… all 6% of it.

My point was, systemd is not the only init system, there are others. Just because it’s used by over 90% of the Linux distros out there, doesn’t mean it’s the only one, thus offering a solution that is tied to systemd is not exactly a solution. Grub already has it figured out, why complicate things further.

Agent641,

I just unplug the exposed SATA cable from one ssd and plug it into the other SSD. I am the bootloader

callyral,
@callyral@pawb.social avatar

does systemd-boot require a distro that runs systemd or is it just the name

Telodzrum,

It’s part of systemd, just for those that use it.

AVincentInSpace,

laughs in rEFInd

also systemd-boot is just worse GRUB, CMV

Telodzrum,

I have no desire to engage with an objectively incorrect view. However, you are the second person to mention refind which I am unfamiliar with and I’m intrigued.

AVincentInSpace, (edited )

systemd-boot is GRUB but without customization and fewer supported features (LLVM root etc). What more is there to say?

rEFInd is (as the name implies) an EFI bootloader that, on every boot, scans all attached storage devices for a bootable partition and presents all those found in a boot menu with a quite nice graphical theme

onlinepersona, in There is no such thing as too many fans...

If that’s for FF, what about chromium?

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

mumblerfish,

With both X and Wayland support!

PainInTheAES,

Compiling chromium crashed my laptop lol

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yeah, same thing.

JATtho, in Looks like I'll be distrohopping again!

So it is btrfs snapshot time again and making it a bootable backup before pacman -Syu?

I have had only single time I remember when the Arch upgrade truly fucked up the system: libreadline.so was broken so bash didn’t work. :D

I always have a second bootable system in case the main system is unable to boot… So I can at least troubleshoot the main system.

hellfire103, (edited )
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I have multiple devices, but I just use my trusty KNOPPIX LiveCD to unlock the disk and move everything onto an external hard drive before either troubleshooting via chroot or just doing a clean install.

laurelraven, in There is no such thing as too many fans...

Not enough fans, I want it to ruin my hearing too

jenny_ball,
@jenny_ball@lemmy.world avatar

still quieter than laptop fan

LainOfTheWired, in It happens 🤷
@LainOfTheWired@lemy.lol avatar

You guys have windows partitions?

cyanarchy,

Not on bare metal, for this reason

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Need for interacting with hardware, so yeah, have it on bare metal, plus in a VM.

herrvogel,

Any reason you can’t just pass the hardware through to the vm?

0x4E4F, (edited )
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Because it needs SATA emulation (needs to communicate natively with SATA devices), and that’s still not a thing in KVMs as far as I know.

acockworkorange,

Always use a condom to interface your bare metal and windows.

Shady_Shiroe,
@Shady_Shiroe@lemmy.world avatar

I keep dual windows on laptop for rare occasions cuz I don’t like dealing with passthrough for special USB cables that require their own drivers on VMs

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yep, pretty much the same reason, just have to use it, mostly because of software that interacts with hardware, in one way or another.

Batbro,

USB cables require drivers? 👀

Shady_Shiroe,
@Shady_Shiroe@lemmy.world avatar

Well USB to serial port to some weird custom 6 pin connector for a certain machine.

Or car data link adapter

SorryQuick,

The ports do, it’s just that they’re built in every kernel nowadays.

Jack3G,
@Jack3G@sh.itjust.works avatar

I’ve been delaying moving my root arch patition from my HDD to overwrite my old windows install on my SSD for months.

I feel like the potential problems that that could cause aren’t worth the better loading times from the SSD.

exoplanetary,
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I installed one when I made my first Linux PC last month in case I needed to use Windows for anything that wouldn’t work fine enough on Linux.

One month later and I still haven’t used it for anything. I think I may have underestimated how fleshed out the Linux ecosystem is these days.

user224,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I do. I wanted to finish something there that I couldn’t easily move to Linux. A DVD project using files scattered accross the system in DVDStyler. I didn’t notice DVDStyler works on Linux.
Now I am basically keeping it due to sunk cost fallancy. It has lots of menus and videos, plus some of them I cut myself. But I don’t even remember where I ended. There was also something about color limitation in menus I wanted to fix. I last shut it down during an update about 2-3 years ago.
But who knows, maybe later at some point…

But I could really use those extra 400GB. I only have 15GiB free right now…

acockworkorange, in It happens 🤷

Windows is installing update 2 of 48…

0x4E4F, (edited )
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yeah, that was back in the WinVista/7/8/8.1 days, it doesn’t show the number of updates any more. Plus, a lot of the updates are cumulative, they abandoned their earlier model.

And, I have to admit, the update process is a lot faster now and a lot less error prone.

someguy3,

it doesn’t show the number of updates

Huh didn’t think of that.

greencactus,

Admittedly, when you run apt-update on a freshly installed system, you get a whole lot more updates. But at least they finish in a a few seconds, compared to Windows’s somewhere between now and the end of time. Who knows ¯_(ツ)_/¯

acockworkorange,

The are no forced updates ever, no forced restarts, and by golly no multiple restarts.

greencactus, (edited )

Admittedly, good point. I completely forgot by now how annoying the experience was :)

only0218, in It happens 🤷

You can quite easily set grub to remember the last picked option

0x4E4F, (edited )
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

That is not the problem. It’s whether I wanted to pick Windows or Linux in this reboot that’s the issue.

gogosempai, in It happens 🤷
@gogosempai@programming.dev avatar

Ah old days… I used to boot into Windows 10 just for gaming but when Valve’s Proton matured to the point that all my games could work on Linux I very happily nuked it out of existence. But yeah if someone plays Fortnite or needs Adobe products then you still can’t do much unfortunately.

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

I don’t do either, but I still need Windows. Some software just needs native communication with hardware devices and wine is still not there yet.

ExLisper,

That’s what virtualization is for.

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

You can’t have native SATA support with virtualization… at least not that I’m aware of… and I need that.

BirdyBoogleBop,

Doesn’t that trip anticheats?

redditReallySucks,
@redditReallySucks@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Only problem is gamepass

gogosempai,
@gogosempai@programming.dev avatar

I only played via Steam so I wouldn’t know. I hear it’s a good deal, but I’ve made it a point to not accept such good deals from BigTech. Have gotten screwed over too many times. Remember when Google Photos allowed unlimited storage?

redditReallySucks,
@redditReallySucks@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Then piracy it will be. For now it’s more convenient than piracy.

BoastfulDaedra,

This isn’t a real solution, but I’ve run it fine through Amazon on Chrome while using Linux.

Caboose12000, (edited ) in It happens 🤷

does anyone know how to actually reorganze a grub menu? every time I try to Google it I only get results for some old software that hasnt been updated in over a decade 8 years. its a huge pain to have to select the distro I want every time just because its not first

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

Yast on openSUSE does this and is maintained.

0x4E4F, (edited )
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Grub Customizer. Just don’t change it too much (names of menu entries for example) cuz most package managers won’t recognize that that menu entry is actually a menu entry for it’s own install and won’t replace it with a new one when doing a kernel update. So, basically, one of two things will happen. You will either be left with 2 menu entries (one for the new kernel and one for the old one, with the old one being the default) or two, you’ll still be booting the old kernel, even though you have the new one installed (no changes to grub whatsoever). Just rearanging the menu entries is fine though, most package managers won’t mangle that and will recognize the menu entry as part of the OS they’re updating and replace that one with a new one.

Caboose12000, (edited )

is there a fork of grub customizer somewhere thats being maintained? that was the software I was talking about in my original comment* and unless im misreading the GitHub page for the project, the last update was 8 years ago.

*I mispoke when I said it was over 10 years out of date, it was updated in 2016.

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

launchpad.net/grub-customizer/

I think that GH repo is just for reference… or maybe they (whoever made it) stopped syncing it to the main repo, IDK. 5.2.4 is the latest version and it’s released late 2023, so yeah, it’s still under active development.

laurelraven,

The old GRUB was easy, just a text file… I think I’ve done it once in the new one but it’s way too long since then

I bet either the Gentoo or Arch (or probably both) wiki has enough details on how to manage GRUB to do that

okamiueru,

I think arch install defaults to systemd-boot these days. But, I realise that doesn’t negate anything you said… So. Hope you’re having a nice day.

laurelraven,

Just checked and they do have it, I think this is the section they need if they want to go that route

wiki.archlinux.org/title/GRUB#Custom_grub.cfg

BoastfulDaedra, in It happens 🤷

Just pray to God you didn’t pick “Windows Boot Repair” or you’re going to spend a while recovering your partition labels…

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Not an issue, I still use MBR boot.

BoastfulDaedra,

I hear you.

The first time WBR killed my partition labels, it was before I could even properly restart. I removed the GRUB entry after that mess, once I repaired their labeling; but at least at the time, it would come back after every GRUB update. Later I just moved Windows to its own hard drive and left it there.

Now I don’t even feel the need to bother with it at all.

Evil_Shrubbery, in It happens 🤷

Just hold the power button until it gets quiet.

shush, don’t fight it, it will be over soon.

macaroni1556,

I always imagine this when hard rebooting any device

Darken,
@Darken@reddthat.com avatar

same thought when hard rebooting the last time before formatting

Evil_Shrubbery,

Oh yeah, deleting partition tables always felt a bit like (mini) scorched earth past-denying genocide. Gone but not forgotten. But also mostly forgotten. Nevertheless you legacy will live onwards through volume labels that I always use.

0x4E4F, (edited )
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

I know, I know… we were just not meant to be, sorry…

shalva97,

It could be installing updates

Evil_Shrubbery,

You are right, but I always risk it (restore points work most of the time anyway).

Darken, (edited )
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Unless u have a ntfs shared drive which gets locked by windows if u don’t restart (or disable fast startup for a real shutdown) so it releases the lock without having to unlock it inside Linux (and sometimes failing because it’s not always locked the same)

“locked” the drive is read-only in Linux until windows unlocks it or Linux does using a tool

0x4E4F, (edited )
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Unless u have a ntfs shared drive which gets locked by windows if u don’t restart…

One of the main reasons why I let ot boot all the way. If nothing else, it’ll mark the partition as dirty 😒. Sure, I can sudo mount my way into it, but I really have no idea if everything’s OK with it. So, I have to reboot, boot into Windows, mark the partition for a consistency check, reboot, boot into Windows again so it could do the check, then reboot again and (finally!) boot into Linux 😒… I mean, just let it boot all the way the first time, it’ll be over rather quickly.

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  • 0x4E4F,
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    Really? I think it shows the files as locked, but you can actually do whatever in root 🤔.

    In either case, it’s just more painless to actually let it boot all the way than to interrupt the boot process.

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  • 0x4E4F,
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    lol 🤣. Good info though 👍, I will have it in mind.

    Evil_Shrubbery, (edited )

    Oh yeah, I’ve had that happen to me (only the one time, like a decade ago), once I realized what gives I solved it easily with GParted ‘repair’ or something like that (iirc?).

    Edit: ohh, I think it was a (full distro) live-boot CD that I used.

    LovePoson, in It happens 🤷

    Me with only linux installed: not a problem i face, no

    greencactus,

    Yesss, Linux gang for the win!

    HouseWolf, in It happens 🤷

    I haven’t booted into my windows 10 drive in months, I fear the amount of updates it will force apon me if I accidentally do.

    callyral,
    @callyral@pawb.social avatar

    remove windows if you’re not using it

    0x4E4F,
    @0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Use Windows Update Blocker to block them.

    tuxrandom,

    At that point I'd just get rid of Windows entirely. I used to have it on my laptop, and the updates it installed after booting for the first time in months broke networking. I never used that install so I decided to use the storage space for more sensible things.

    sorrybookbroke,

    I was in that situation a while ago, so I booted in to try and keep it up to date. Well, in reality I booted into recovery mode as it decided to die. Anyway I’m now duel booting arch and tumbleweed

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