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rattking, (edited ) in It's been compiling for two days straight...
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*laughs in i93900k. -j 32 goes brrr!

I kid, I kid. -j 32 actually goes kernel: Out of memory: Kill process 10665 (cc) score 666 or sacrifice child ;)

chellomere,

Hmm you need to download some more RAM

Elliott, in It's been compiling for two days straight...

Let me take this opportunity to tell you I use arch linux…lol

snugglebutt,
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hilarious

rtxn, in Screw init wars, real OGs discriminate based on DE

If you think the init wars are stupid, take a look at the FSF people’s (attempted) war against Libreboot and their absolute humiliation by the project leader..

Adanisi, (edited )
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To be fair, while it’s the Libreboot creator’s project and they can do whatever they want with it, I can see why people are upset that Libreboot has had the “Libre” in it’s name seemingly neglected.

The FSF is an ideological organisation. It’s important that they exist. It’s also important that pure free software exists. Pragmatism is also important, but without any purity, the “extreme” of software freedom gets watered down, and so the window of an “acceptable” amount of proprietary-ness shifts as a new, less hardline “extreme” takes it’s place, if that makes sense. We should be striving for full software freedom, even if it’s currently just a dream.

Libreboot was a pure libre software project. Now it isn’t. Originally, a fork called osboot was created with the new blob reduction policy. That was fine, because it was a different name that didn’t mislead (also because nobody knew osboot as the fully free BIOS replacement). Then that policy became Libreboot policy. Libreboot is no longer fully libre, despite it having been exactly that for it’s whole life. It had an established name as the fully free BIOS replacement. It was known for that. Hence the upset.

Also, I see Canoeboot as a success. Rowe seems to be doing it out of spite, but it’s achieved what the GNU project wants. It has successfully pushed Rowe to at least provide some sort of fully free release again.

TheOctonaut,

Yeah, I wish someone released software to my exact requirements out of spite. They can release it out of race hate if they like

gaael,

I agree with your point on the necessity of FSF and pure free software. Your comment seems to describe pretty well the Overton Window

zephr_c,

The point isn’t just pragmatism. The point is that you’re running closed source software either way. Even ideologically, running out of date closed source software because it’s built into the chip isn’t actually any better than running a current version of the same software from a drive. Maybe that distinction made sense in the 90s when mircocode updates weren’t a thing most people dealt with, although honestly even back then it was a little weird. Now it’s complete garbage. The FSF is an important organization, which makes it all the more important to call them out when they’re wasting time and money on stupid nonsense.

MigratingtoLemmy,

Wtf, I didn’t know that Libreboot wasn’t fully libre any more. I agree with the FSF’s ideology here. The only reason to run Libreboot over Coreboot was 100% FOSS, and if that’s not the case, then there is no point to it anymore.

Thanks for mentioning the other projects, I’ll take a look

penquin, in It's been compiling for two days straight...
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Serious question, how long will it take to compile the whole thing if you had a ryzen 9 maxed out or an Intel i9 or whatevet those crazy CPUs are with all top specs PC?

ichbinjasokreativ,

I have a laptop with a Ryzen 4700u and gentoo with KDE compiles in a virtual machine in like 2 hours iirc

carl_the_llama,

My IBM took 1h30m to compile vim… (:

penquin,
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Is there a particular reason why you prefer Gentoo over other distros? Can’t you run a conventional distro that doesn’t need to compile? Just curious, no judgement. I know that Marcan, the dude who reverse engineered the apple M1, runs Gentoo. Always been curious as to why some folks prefer it

ichbinjasokreativ,

I dont use gentoo, I was just messing around with it out of curiosity

rattking,
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  • penquin,
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    So the joke doesn’t run on your build then. lol

    Rooty, in Screw init wars, real OGs discriminate based on DE

    I am not interested in being preached at unless you have a workable alternative and a good reason why should I switch over.

    RattlerSix, in A distribution for the systemd haters around here.

    I feel like this is a Slackware joke

    bhamlin,

    Nah, if it were slackware there’d be more Bob.

    BrianTheeBiscuiteer, in An unbiased comparison of linux distributions' setup

    BSD users standing outside, face pressed against the glass, gently weeping.

    _cnt0,

    For shits and giggles I actually used NetBSD as a daily driver for ~1 year on my laptop while studying.

    fry,

    Yes, a tear of joy.

    sundrei,
    @sundrei@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    cries in broadcom wireless card not supported

    thelastknowngod, in nixCraft 🐧 (@nixCraft@mastodon.social)

    This is dumb.

    You could do all that stuff with bash scripts but it would be a management nightmare. You’d also be completely reinventing the wheel.

    If anyone seriously thinks this is a good idea, please post your LinkedIn so I know to never hire you.

    nevemsenki,

    It depends. I use k8s a lot, and annoyingly enough we still happen to use cronjobs and bash scripts to “automate” certain tasks. Maybe it’s inertia, but bash is certainly easy to fall back to…

    thelastknowngod,

    Yeah I am deep in the kube world as well. Since this industry-wide shift started happening, I feel like I write essentially no code anymore outside of bash scripts to glue things together. It’s essential but it’s not a replacement.

    This cartoon seemed to me to be suggesting that you could implement the behavior of kube with bash. That’s obviously absurd.

    bradbeattie,

    Totally possible to go overboard in either spectrum of complexity. But yeah, take Prometheus for example. It’s super easy to set up and does a great job of metrics. Reimplementing this in bash would require… a lot of work.

    possiblylinux127, in An unbiased comparison of linux distributions' setup

    Old comic

    _cnt0,

    Yes.

    AVincentInSpace,

    And inaccurate

    viperex,

    Just plain illegible

    cadekat, in It's been compiling for two days straight...

    I recently discovered emerge --jobs 8 --load-average 8 instead of just make -j8. Not gonna help much on a 900MHz pentium, but it has really sped up my build times.

    magikmw,

    Me: Use threads!
    Single core CPU: Do I look like a loom to you?

    carl_the_llama,

    I have to set -j1 because of low ram. Yes I can just increase swap space to “add more RAM” but it will be swap on a 2001 HDD so it’s slow as hell

    devfuuu,

    DownloadMoreRam

    ilovetamako, in Screw init wars, real OGs discriminate based on DE

    As an OpenRC user, Systemd is fine. I prefer openRC but I have systemd on my server and all its LXC containers and I have had no issues with it.

    malockin, in So, timeshift or NixOS?
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    I’ve been running the same installation since 2012.

    obligatory: “arch, btw”

    db0, in A distribution for the systemd haters around here.
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    Tmux over gnu screen? Too progressive for me!

    PlasterAnalyst, in nixCraft 🐧 (@nixCraft@mastodon.social)

    This is not realistic, you also need aliases.

    Moshpirit, in An unbiased comparison of linux distributions' setup
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    I’m vegan btw

    RubberElectrons,
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    Brave little lightning rod we’ve got here, eh? You must also use Arch!!! (Just playing)

    Moshpirit,
    @Moshpirit@lemmy.world avatar

    I actually do use arch haha Also this user has died due to protein deficiency

    RubberElectrons, (edited )
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    hahaha

    It’s weird how much people hate on arch. I’m a Ubuntu/debian guy, but the arch wiki has helped me a few times for sure.

    Moshpirit,
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    I think it’s just a meme. I don’t think people hate arch. Same thing happens with Ubuntu, but for being too easy to use/being the default linux distro (beyond Canonical and Snap). And yes, forums and wikis are amazing tools! Linux wouldn’t be the same at all without them z39eohcrv4e31

    RubberElectrons,
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    That’s hilarious 😂

    Moshpirit,
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    It’s been almost 9 years collecting memes hahaha

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