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MindSkipperBro12, in It happens 🤷

Just accept the winning side.

BoastfulDaedra,

So, mind-skipper in that you forgot to pick one up when they were being handed out?

hikikoma,

This is bait right? It HAS to be…surely.

MindSkipperBro12,

No. I am not joking.

hikikoma,

You are the whole joke I’m afraid.

MindSkipperBro12, (edited )
pineapplelover, (edited ) in It happens 🤷
ricdeh,
@ricdeh@lemmy.world avatar

You don’t sound so bad for pushing 120!

bastion, in It happens 🤷

That just doesn’t happen to me.

I use rEFInd.

ExLisper,

That also doesn’t happen to me.

The last time I had Windows installed anywhere was around 15 years ago.

AbsurdityAccelerator, in Completely untrue nowadays...

I swear my 3d printer is more reliable than my paper printer.

EvilHankVenture,

At least if my 3d printer breaks I can fix it.

SpikesOtherDog,

I am wondering why there is no open framework for laser printing.

There are a few parts that would have to be made out of sheet metal. The sides could be stamped for the same pattern. You then need a back and a cross section. One could theoretically make them from ABS, but ABS gets brittle with heat and the sides will shatter.

One side of the printer is dedicated to running an ARM SOC. I’m not sure if the Arduino is up to the task, but it will need to control 3 motors, initiate a heating sequence, start a rasterizing laser, interpret a print job, communicate over network and USB, and monitor a bunch of sensors.

The hardest parts will be obtaining print cartridges, rollers, and fusers. Designing a standard to run off a certain vendor’s hardware will be a pile of issues, and nobody will just start manufacturing hardware for a handful of hobbyist printers.

Everything else is 3d printing, springs, and screws.

taladar,

I am wondering why there is no open framework for laser printing.

Besides the reasons already mentioned most people who would be interested in bleeding edge tinkering probably have moved on from paper at this point.

SpikesOtherDog,

Good point. Most people hate printing anyway.

frezik, (edited )

2d printers need to be a lot more precise. 300dpi means each dot is placed with less than a tenth of a mm, and that’s not even particularly impressive for a 2d printer. 3d printers get away with a lot more slop than that.

That’s only talking about greyscale. Color requires precise alignment of the cartridges for at least 4 base colors (higher end photo printers have even more) , and the mix of those colors must be carefully controlled to get accurate output.

SpikesOtherDog,

Yeah, that is one of the big problems I was considering. Even monochrome at 300 DPI would be a problem. The imaging array and drum would need to be manufactured separately and installed as whole unit.

jas0n,

At least it only needs to be precise if the register is adjustable. You would need some tiny stepper motors right? I’m not familiar with how register is adjusted on desktop printers, but I know it can be.

GTG3000,

Well, cartridges, rollers, and fusers are the important bits that can’t easily be manufactured by hand. And that’s a big part of the price of the printer.

You can’t really make them cheaper than mass-manufacture, and laser printers are already almost bulletproof from my experience.

SpikesOtherDog,

You are right. I think I rubber-ducked myself to the same conclusion.

MonkderZweite,

cartridges

Bottles are simpler.

GTG3000,

For laser printing?

adhocfungus,

My cheap old 3D printer requires constant fiddling before and after every print, yet still fails probably half the time. I avoid printing things sometimes just because I don’t want to deal with it.

I would still agree with you 100%. I hate my HP printer so much.

GladiusB,
@GladiusB@lemmy.world avatar

I too own an HP

Kolanaki, (edited )
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

Let’s go back to stone tablets. Only instead of stone, it’s plastic and resin.

“Here’s my report.” Slaps what appears to be 100 fast food trays down on the desk

desmosthenes, in It happens 🤷
@desmosthenes@lemmy.world avatar

you don’t have it default to linux…?

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

I do, but I sometimes need Windows and I get confused when rebooting “was I supposed to use Windows or Linux now 🤔”.

desmosthenes,
@desmosthenes@lemmy.world avatar

lol happens to me too ><

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

The struggle is real 😂.

AtmaJnana, in Your PC will thank you...

Linux is only free if your time is worth nothing.

bisby,

Windows is only $price if your data and privacy are worth nothing.

Gestrid,

The only thing Linux costs is your soul because you will be configuring and fiddling with it for all eternity.

Honytawk,

… so your time …

Integrate777,

That can be applied to most hobbies in general. Not using an automated coffee machine? Time worth nothing. Cooking rather buying takeout? Building your own pc rather than buying prebuilt? Drawing rather than generating with AI? Time worth nothing, that’s why.

Kanda,

The learning experience gained from the time worth nothing is also worth nothing

Anon124, (edited )

The thing is a PC isn’t a hobby, but a tool for most people.

bjoern_tantau, in Looks like I'll be distrohopping again!
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

That’s why God invented OpenSUSE Tumbleweed for all your stable rolling release needs.

hellfire103,
@hellfire103@sopuli.xyz avatar

Yeah, either openSUSE or Gentoo will probably fix my issues good and proper.

Heavybell,
@Heavybell@lemmy.world avatar

I use Gentoo. Most of my fstab entries are by partuuid, which works for me.

bjoern_tantau,
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

To be frank I went away from Gentoo for much the same reason. And the constant compilation. I only used it once after that for a small project where I needed to minimise what actually lands in the OS.

But all that was years ago.

callyral,
@callyral@pawb.social avatar

what about void linux

hellfire103,
@hellfire103@sopuli.xyz avatar

Despite its popularity, I’ve never had much luck with Void. However, I could try it again. 17th time’s the charm!

callyral,
@callyral@pawb.social avatar

what did you have trouble with?

hellfire103,
@hellfire103@sopuli.xyz avatar

Just the little things, really. App compatibility, xbps not having too many packages, issues with Musl, GRUB not loading on the LiveUSB, desktop/WM selection, and also I don’t like the way Runit works. I could make it work if I needed to, but overall it just seems like too much effort.

LainOfTheWired,
@LainOfTheWired@lemy.lol avatar

Void user here. If you’re having trouble with musl then just use the glibc base image. As they offer both C implementations.

hellfire103,
@hellfire103@sopuli.xyz avatar

The Musl issues were a while ago. The other issues were experienced on the glibc version.

Void is a distribution I keep trying, but I believe I’ll be either sticking with the Arch family or switching to Gentoo, openSUSE, or NixOS.

MrBubbles96,

As an Arch User who keeps hearing about OpenSUSE being a more stable rolling release…mind going into it a bit more? I’m happy on my system, mind, but idk, could be I’m missing out on something big for not making the jump. If nothing else, I’ll know my options

takeda, in Btw i used Arch!

Arch? That’s so 2020. With NixOS you can just rollback if you make a mistake.

i.redd.it/tlmg36zoel671.png

I use NixOS BTW.

neonred,

nix-env / nix-channels / nix profile / homemanager ?

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

You can do that with any distro and BTRFS.

takeda,

That’s just a snapshot. What NixOS allows you to create configuration that will deploy your OS configured the way you like, possibly post it on places like GitHub deeply a new machine confused the exact same way.

You can even do something like this: grahamc.com/blog/erase-your-darlings/

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

You can do the same with void-mklive. Boot, install, you have the same system that is on the live USB on your HDD/SSD.

platypus_plumba,

I’ve never used btrfs. Can you give an example of an error and how it is corrected?

takeda,

BTRFS and ZFS filesystems offer lightweight snapshots. So you can save the state of the filesystem and restore it. It is often integrated with the package manager and a snapshot is involved before you make change.

NixOS works differently. You have a configuration file, and each time you make change to it NixOS rebuilds itself to its specification from scratch (you might assume it would be a lengthy process, but because of caching only things that are rebuilt are things that you are changing).

This means that things like for example squeezing from KDE to Gnome or X11 to Wayland aren’t scary to try and you can easily revert things back, your home directory won’t be touched.

Also those things aren’t exclusive you can use BTRFS and ZFS on NixOS to and enjoy their benefits.

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

You can also exclude any directory you like from snapshots, including home, that’s not a problem.

takeda,

Yeah, you can if you plan well enough (typically. What I’m trying to illustrate is that this works by taking a snapshot of the disk in time. It’s like keeping a working copy of your system on your disk to be able to revert to.

While with NixOS you work with a “recipe” how your system is supposed to be configured. It is much lighter. It is declarative, you change the recipe and get what you described, you change configuration and all packages which you did not mention and are not used by anything are gone. If you update your system you can use the same configuration on it

The thing is that using can still get BTRFS or ZFS and use it to have snapshots too (for example your home directory)

bruhduh, (edited )
@bruhduh@lemmy.world avatar

Nah man, 3 months ago i had fedora 38 btrfs, timeshift refused to work because subvolumes wasn’t done, but i installed everything in auto gui mode, i did them by the manual after installation, timeshift started working just fine, a week further update to fedora 39 came, i updated, everything broke because of subvolumes, i loaded fedora recovery mode from grub, tried to roll back with timeshift btrfs, it rolled back to 38 but everything was still broke, and more over, whole ssd with this installation became locked, had to recover data from completely locked up ssd, in the middle of the process it locked even further, so i couldn’t even copy some files when disk was connected as external

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Have no idea what RH did that would do that during an update.

I manually set up BTRFS every time, haven’t had any problems. But, I use Void, not Fedora.

HuntressHimbo,

NixOS ended up disappointing me a fair bit. I just tried it recently and the KDE support seems very rough so far, or at least I couldn’t find good answers to how to configure it and theme it.

vox,
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

kde theming os pretty much independent of your distro tho?

HuntressHimbo,

One of the main draw of NixOs is the reproducibility of builds, meaning that redoing the build will provide the exact same output each time, so Nix encourages you to make configuration changes through the package manager. I’ve mostly overcome my theming woes with home-manager now, but this comment was speaking to a little wrinkle I had when I was trying to learn and take advantage of the OS’s features as best I could.

takeda,

Home manager is the way to do it though.

The main configuration handles configuration of the system, home manager project was created to bring similar functionality for the user home directory. That’s where the name comes from.

Home manager also works great when using Nix on other systems to manage for files, for example on OS X.

MonkderZweite, (edited )

NixOS would be top and bottom, and the Orca, alltogether?

trackcharlie, in It happens 🤷

When the windows update bricked my OS I sighed in pure relief as I could finally stop using windows forever. As an added bonus I didn’t lose any work because the drive was fully accessible to arch… after windows said it had encrypted the drive.

Absolute trash operating system and I have zero regrets leaving.

pewpew,
@pewpew@feddit.it avatar

Same, Windows also bricked my Grub install (which was on another drive). Too bad I have to use that trash for school

trackcharlie,

I very much understand your pain, my drive died mid-year while I was at university, I just cleaned it up and added it to a virtual machine with win10 to finish projects with the windows based programs.

Worked surprisingly well. I used virtual machine manager on arch (and now endeavour, I can’t stop distro hopping but I’ve stayed on endeavour the longest)

pip1,

Yup a Windows update messing with the bootloader before gracefully failing (blue screen) was the nudge for me to remove it once and for all

key, in It happens 🤷
@key@lemmy.keychat.org avatar

Does grub even support mouse? Wouldn’t you have to arrow down to it and hit enter?

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yeah, so you jump an entry or get confused and puck it by mistake. Happens to me all the time 🤷.

backhdlp, (edited )
@backhdlp@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

no and yes

QuazarOmega,

To which question?

narrowide96lochkreis,

Yes

QuazarOmega,

YESSS

backhdlp,
@backhdlp@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

The second one, failed to specify that

CrayonRosary, in It happens 🤷

Is her wall made out of glass?

TimeSquirrel, (edited )
@TimeSquirrel@kbin.social avatar

'Murican walls. Made of paper, glue, and chalk.

MonkderZweite, in Oh boy, goodie!

XFCE is the Mickey Mouse under the desktop environments?

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

I hope not…

NickwithaC, in Completely untrue nowadays...
@NickwithaC@lemmy.world avatar

Stop printing.

Honestly who NEEDS a printer anymore? We’ve moved on from printing out driving directions from MapQuest and burning our own DVD collections. We should ditch home printers and only use online printing services whenever you want something physical so it’s made nicely by someone who knows what they’re doing.

A_Random_Idiot,

You must be an executive with impeccable logic such as that.

Emerald,

Many people still use printers.

dnick,

Yeah, he was basically telling them to stop, or maybe more generally he was telling them to take a look at whether they really need to print things.

Ziglin,

It can still be nice to have one so you can print out more pages in parallel than you have space on your screen and using a pen to annotate a document.

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Basically, I don’t see any other reason, except for annotation.

RacoonVegetable,

A tablet with a stylus: im about to ruin this lemmitor’s whole career!

AngryCommieKender,

First time I’ve seen lemmitor… Not sure if it’s better or worse than lemming…

tuxrandom, in It happens 🤷

The same applies for the other way around when I need Windows for something.

I apparently magically attract computers with a horribly slow UEFI so it takes a while to reboot regardless of the OS.

0x4E4F, (edited )
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

If it takes too long to load the EFI binaries, that might be BIOS setup issue. Have you tried other filesystems except FAT32 for the EFI partition? I’ve had luck with just FAT (FAT16) on some rigs that just refused to read FAT32 (still don’t know why).

Also, make sure the drives are in AHCI mode. Though this is mostly the default nowadays, I’ve seen weird BIOSes that defaulted to IDE mode.

TimeSquirrel, in It happens 🤷
@TimeSquirrel@kbin.social avatar

What Windows? I got Debian, and some shit that tests my memory.

Asudox, (edited )
@Asudox@lemmy.world avatar

Your memory or your computer’s memory? Huge difference.

user224,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

“I forgot”

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Doesn’t seem to work…

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