Blows my mind that 50% of mobile visitors are Apple, when 80% of the world uses Android (Though I guess Ph is probably more popular in anglo/european countries which uses more iPhones anyway)
Fundamentally speaking, none of these people would’ve ended up as billionaires for long. Most FOSS heavyweights already gave up their chance at being much more wealthy for their current roles. That being said, I’m pretty sure Linus and a few others here aren’t exactly short on cash
Ubuntu is a product of Canonical which are a pretty evil corporation and a submarine of Microsoft. What they don’t leech off Debian is proprietay and lock-in.
As a commercial OS, it’s fine. LTS releases, great headless experience, and dependency graph that is progressive but not as frozen in time as RedHat.
As an end-user OS, the dizzying number of ways to get usable apps into the GUI cut deep against advanced users. Especially when advanced use cases smash into incompatibilities and easy-to-make mistakes that break stuff. But if you’re willing to rock a lot of defaults and just slap things together from the package manager, it works okay.
Not too deep in that conversation but afaik it’s a series of choices that just continuously make Ubuntu less usable.
from what I “know” it seems to be mostly:
the baffling decision to keep riding the dead Snap train instead of the now widespread Flatpak one.
some drama around them switching from Gnome 2 -> Own Desktop -> Gnome 3 and related decisions, not sure what the problems there were but apparently a lot of people didn’t like it.
some stuff about telemetry, not sure how relevant this is currently but I heard some people complain about it.
Again, not really sure that’s it but it’s what I recall hearing here and there.
What distro would you suggest? I abandoned windows 10 for Ubuntu but it didn’t grew on me. I know Linux Mint is friendlier but I thought giving Ubuntu a try
Depends on your use case honestly. Do you play a lot of games? If so I would recommend against stable distros like Mint. Without knowing more I’d probably say:
Mostly Browsing or Work in Office Editors: Linux Mint or Kubuntu since Updates are stable and generally don’t break anything.
A lot of gaming: Arch via Archinstall or ArcoLinux (ArcoLinux is imo a bit more confusing while getting the image file, after it is superior to ArchInstall for newbies because the installer is a bit more familiar) since you’ll benefit from a shortened update cycle. The drawback here is that occasionally (or often depending on what you install) updates break things.
Edit: Also a general recommendation: Stick to Windows-like Desktops for the beginning, these are (to my knowledge) XFCE and more prominently KDE Plasma. It will save you the additional task of getting used to your desktop environment while you get familiar with how Linux “works” as your main OS.
I played around with Kali(I know I know) and raspberry pi for a bit and I got the hang of it a bit. Think I’ll go with Mint on one drive for school and such and on the other drive Arch for gaming. Thank you for your time.
Think I’ll go with Mint on one drive for school and such and on the other drive Arch for gaming
Nothing exactly wrong with that but I don’t think you’ll need the extra layer of separation. Most Apps on Mint should be available Arch as well and run generally as Bug free as on Mint (Edit: a “graphical” representation of what level of Bugginess you can expect: Many Bugs > Some Bugs > Few Bugs > Windows 10 (personal experience) > Arch Linux > Almost no Bugs > Linux Mint > No Bugs). Not splitting the OS would save you some hassle (for example after school work is done you can start gaming faster as well as simpler disk partitioning) on the other hand depending on yourself it might offer advantages (can’t get as easily distracted from schoolwork with games if you have to reboot the PC for it)
I know that you apps are available across distributions but I wanted to use a stable distro for school that I trust not to brake and another one where I can experience and customize without worrying to much about breaking it.
as I said nothing wrong with it, just wanted to add some info in case the decision was made based on some misunderstanding. If you think that’s the best fit for you go for it
Debian sid is just as fresh and a (nearly) rolling release distribution. I game on it with Wine, Cyperpunk, X4, Baldur’s Gate and others are no problem.
I made the switch to daily driving Linux on my laptop for work and play a few months back with a dual boot setup with Windows, and changed over mine and my partner's gaming desktops to do the same, and they recently got a Steam Deck OLED as well. Honestly I can't say this is true. It depends on the distro, but I went with Pop OS, and it has been ridiculously pain free to game on. I play a large variety of weird, old, indie games, and I've encountered a single game that didn't work on Pop OS that I needed to play on Windows (WRC 4) and that particular game BARELY worked on Windows as well and took lots of setting up and fixing. More often than not I'm finding things work better on Pop OS (GTA IV doesn't crash when changing multiple graphics options like on Windows, and GTA IV and 2013's Tomb Raider both get better frame rates) than Windows.
This is all particularly notable because I didn't go in as some Linux expert touting the superiority of it (I chose Pop OS because I'm a noob, and it's easy to use), and fully expected to have all sorts of issues. My biggest complaint is that I should have set my dual boot partition for Pop OS way bigger because I barely need to use Windows anymore! My absolute #1 annoying niche issue that I can't figure out is that the VPN I need to use to remote into my work 1) will work on Windows, 2) DID work on Pop OS when connected to my phone's data but not my home wifi (???), 3) no longer works on either my phones data or wifi. Gaming though, has been a cakewalk, you should give it a go. Install proton, maybe grab a glorious eggroll, and you're set, they're support for NVIDIA cards make it equally pain free (across the 3 systems I mentioned we're gaming on Intel, AMD, and NVIDIA gpus, and all are equally pain free).
Even controllers are no problem, but I haven't messed around much with my wheel, or VR headset though, so we'll so how that goes.
Sorry I meant steam link is launched on quest. So you can connect wireless with the quest headsets. At least on Windows, not sure how well that works on Linux.
That said I have no experience with any of it as game pass sounds very unappealing to me as someone who prefers to own her games and not buy subscription services
Honestly gaming hasn’t been a problem for me on Linux. It is a bit more work in some games to get them up and running, but windows 11 started waking up without any reason so I abandoned it and think the extra work is worth it.
But I understand why someone wouldn’t want to go through it.
No I checked before I went to Linux. There was no obvious reason anywhere and nothing in the logs. It just decided to wake up every afternoon. Whatever, I’m done with the OS.
You are on Linux, obviously that fixed your problem. But yeah, the setting for faster wakeup from sleep is hidden somewhere, and Microsoft does not want that to be toggled off and may even ignore it, lol
Windows keeps the computer awake and does not do sleep like it used to anymore. S3 sleep, that is. Keeps wifi connected and all that jazz. Battery drain is significantly worse now.
Only if you play CoD, Fortnite, or Destiny 2. If you’re technically inclined and don’t mind working around some issues, gaming on Linux has come a long way and can be used for pretty much anything else. I used to dual-boot Windows for games, then I went to booting Windows in a VM and gaming with a spare, passed-through GPU. But I haven’t booted my VM in months, and I play lots of games.
So my options are install OS, install GPU drivers, install games, and then play games, or install OS, read 50 different guides, fight iommu or some other configuration, eventually get it working enough to install another OS in a VM, fight getting that performing well, install games, and then play games with potential for worse performance.
I love Linux, but claiming these two things are comparable is ridiculous. I work with Linux all day at work, I don’t want to work with it at home when I just want to relax.
The point I’m making is that you don’t have to read 50+ guides anymore. Install a distro with a good gaming track record (Nobara, Garuda, Pop_OS, Bazzite) and play games. Linux gaming has come a long way.
That said, I understand where you’re coming from. I’m just trying to say it’s easier now than it’s ever been before.
See, that's the thing: I very much mind "working around some issues" in gaming and in gaming alone. I'm as much of a tinkerer when it comes to software as the next guy, but now with a child and all of those pesky responsibilities that slowly pile up as you age, gaming time is
a) scarce and
b) the only real "wind down" time I get
I have time for other things that make me happy mind you, but gaming time needs to be different you cannot dive into an RPG and do subtle story Sidequests and whatnot if you can't dive into the game fully, switch off everything else for a time. Whenever I can do that, any "small issue" I'd need to work around would make me MAD.
Gaming is the one thing where I don't want the super customizable OS that works exactly as I want that I can get with Linux. I want to press play and be taken to a place where peasants will task any random stranger to bring their child somewhere and any Lord will entrust his kingdom into some random dipshit he just.met.
And not wanting to do that makes perfect sense. I don’t really want to either, of course, but I’ve decided that if I as a person who can do it actually switch to Linux that must mean that some others of similar minds are going to do it as well.
When it reaches critical mass it’ll just become easier and easier. It already is much easier than it has been, but not having time is a totally valid reason not to do it yet.
But at least for my personal experience the kinds of issues I encounter gaming on Linux are typically less frustrating than the ones I encountered gaming in Windows.
To pretend that either experience is pain-free would be dishonest but I’ve had less difficulties since switching fully to Linux and actually seen a noticeable improvement in performance on many games as well.
I think in reality if stability and never having to “fix” issues or bugs is your biggest concern you are probably more suited to console gaming
As a Linux newcomer the Wayland/X11 thing has been the most confusing thing I’ve witnessed.
Surely the average person will just use what works best on their system at that time? I don’t get people wishing to throw Wayland in the trash or the people who take issue with people still using X11.
Kinda just seems like arguing because you have nothing better to do.
Ubuntu LTS and 23.x are both Xorg. Latest has Wayland. If 24.04 is to be LTS though, I don’t think they’d release it with Wayland as default. I’d think they’d switch to Wayland on 24.10 so there’s 3 more releases to get good before the next LTS build.
I don’t usually “trust” vendor support for Linux though…Linux is usually a second-class citizen and “support” means there is either a single grey-beard or an intern that’s answering emails about it. Idk about StudioOne, but unfortunately it’s usually expected to not have feature parity or complete documentation for commercial software on Linux. IME, YMMV, etc.
It’s an age old Linux tradition. We argue about window managers, init systems, sound systems, and anything else we can. Often it’s because people have built a hacked together system based on what used to work for them. Relevant XKCD
And it’s fine when it’s about a roughly equal choice. But Wayland is vastly superior in support and X11 vastly superior in functionality, so I don’t get this argument.
If I could find a compositor for Wayland (and a simple terminal emulator like urxvt, no opengl for acceleration please) as easy and quick to set up as cwm for X11 (with something like dzen2) or fvwm - the issue wouldn’t exist for me personally.
And, here me out here: this is a good thing. Nay, a beautiful thing. There are no better things to do because these people care and have a voice. We argue about things for years and make slow progress as people agree or capitulate, and there will always be a fork to avoid those changes people care to enough. No one can just buy the Linux ecosystem and make unpopular changes without broad support. I’m pretty sure a negligible number of people have genuine hatred or prejudice for those using a technology they don’t like. The arguing of Linux and Open Source is a reflection of the most successful form of worldwide democracy ever implemented by mankind.
The difference between paranoia and fear is the difference between not wanting to buy a Google Home because it listens to you and not wanting to buy a Google Home because you’re afraid you’ll break it.
That is actually a great metaphore. I always just used:
It’s like me not wanting to use google photos because they scan your photos to train algorithms vs my mom not wanting to use google photos because she is afraid all of her photos will get deleted.
i actually kinda like gnome since gnome 40 release.
it still sucks to use on small displays like laptops tho due to all the padding everywhere
also gnome’s touchpad gestures and multi-desktop management is superior to that of kde.
Luckily Xfce exists which gives you back all of the configurability of old Gnome.
Move those panels around, add as many as you like!
Me, I’ve just looked at screenshots of old gnome and can’t remember why I ever thought 2 panels visible at all times were a good idea.
I love current gnome, cause with a single extension I can hide literally all of it until I need to bring it up with the super-button. And then I have my favorite apps, open windows, workspaces, systray, clock and a search field all visible at once.
I actually switched to openSUSE Tumbleweed from Ubuntu and love it. I know it’s not as popular, but I can’t see why. Rolling release, compatibility, support, it’s awesome!
Q : How/why did you make such a great OS?
A : I thought - what would attract young users to Linux? So I created this idea after a lot of reading and work.
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