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ILikeBoobies, (edited ) in Text editor war

I approve this message

For advanced text editing (and project management) though, I have to give a shout out to Obsidian MD (markdown) and whomever made the code plugin for it

librecat,

Obsidian is proprietary FYI I know this is Linux memes and not FOSS memes but I think it’s still important to point out.

fl42v, in Linux mint = best beginner distro

Quit Linux? More like quit [non-server revisions of] Ubuntu… Besides, I somehow have an impression that preinstalled crap is among the popular reasons to why ppl leave windows

TetHead, in Everyone loves snaps

OK I am more of a baby Penguin here, why do people hate Snap and Flatpack?

kogasa,
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Flatpak is fine. Snap is Canonical’s proprietary version, which ties you specifically to their app store. It’s not designed to be an open standard but Canonical has made it compulsory in one of the largest distros (Ubuntu) and its derivatives. There are also problems with its sandboxing mechanism competing with AppArmor.

lemann,

AppArmor and SELinux sandboxing stuff pushed me to only install services with Docker on my headless machines 😣 found out most services can’t write to their own homefolder

ILikeBoobies,

You could be a vet

People shouldn’t hate either

brenno,

This hate comes mostly from Linux communities like here and on Reddit. When you see actual numbers, both are widely used for production use. They have lots of active users as reported in their respective blogs and websites.

That said, it is aware that both had problems. Most hate towards Flatpaks that I can see is from purists that prefer their distro shipping their packages with dynamic dependencies and uprated by their package manager. Also there is complains with outdated runtimes and stuff like how sandboxing works.

Snaps has all problems than before with some extras. When they were released, because of compression, they were painfully slowly to open and they affected boot time. Nowadays this is mostly gone, but they still keep a proprietary store, inability to have multiple repositories (stores) and they don’t respect your home directory structure by placing a “snap” folder in your home.

Personally I use both and I’m happy with them. The proprietary store stuff does not bother me because I’m already trusting canonical binaries by using Ubuntu and they are easy to use and be productive with them.

CeeBee,

There was an Ubuntu developer that left Canonical about a year or so ago. His reason was that he had spent a number of years (possibly over a decade, can’t remember) optimizing some code and the kernel to get the fastest boot time possible.

Then he saw Canonical practically throw his work out the window by introducing snaps, which until recently was plagued by serious slowness on the first start of a snap.

He said it felt like his years of work just meant nothing at that point.

There are a number of reasons Flatpaks are a better open source option, even if they aren’t perfect.

mightyfoolish, in Useless messenger

Facebook couldn’t bother making a proper Android app for years. Now you want them to make Linux apps? The likelihood is small…

agent_flounder, (edited ) in Text editor war
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:.,$d**iuse whatever works best for you, k?? esc :wq!

Moshpirit,
@Moshpirit@lemmy.world avatar

Why the :.,?

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

Replace the meme text. :)

emptiestplace,

dG

sanosuke001, in Everyone loves snaps

I can’t even use my smart card because Ubuntu keeps trying to install the snap version of Firefox which can’t access the hardware. Why does it keep swapping out every time I update releases? Why won’t it let me be happy?! /cry

TooLazyDidntName,

This is exactly why I’m switching to fedora. Just installed 23.10 and Firefox became a snap again. Ive been with ubuntu for over 10 years now, but I’m done.

DAMunzy,

You could use Arch, btw. 😜🤣

LazaroFilm, in Text editor war
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sudo nano

callyral, in Debian being insanely stable
@callyral@pawb.social avatar

i use void linux and apparently it is a stable rolling release

spookedbyroaches,

Yeah and I’m a small-headed Arch user

linearchaos, in Text editor war
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

I only use Vim, but I appreciate nano as a choice and don’t even really mind visudo opening nano

somenonewho,

I appreciate nano as a choice. Sure. But if visudo opens in nano and suddenly I have a bunch of “yoi:wq” in my sudoers I’ll be upset.

laurelraven,

When visudo opens nano, I get unreasonably angry about it. I typed “visudo”, not “nanosudo”

Moshpirit,
@Moshpirit@lemmy.world avatar

I prefer micro over nano. It’s like a middle term

captain_aggravated,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

Vim user here: Nano is a good text editor, takes a lot less training to pick up and use, and it’s surprisingly capable. If I’m teaching someone how to use the Linux terminal, I’m going to teach them Nano, because they already have enough to learn. Vim is a separate class all its own.

appel, in Text editor war

“Vim? Nah, no need”

ramius345, in Text editor war

Just use sed -i like God intended.

badbytes, in Text editor war

I’ve been using Vim for years, cause I can’t figure out how to close it.

Curly722,
milicent_bystandr,

You came because it looked exciting…

You stayed because you couldn’t leave.

darvocet,

You open up a new session and reboot. Always works for me.

bazzett, in Debian being insanely stable
@bazzett@lemmy.world avatar

I really like Debian, but for some reason my not-new-laptop didn’t liked it. Issues with suspend, the WiFi and the NVME drive made me to nuke it last Wednesday and in its place I installed Fedora, which seems to play better with the hardware. At least I don’t have problems with it in my desktop.

ComradeWeebelo, (edited )

If you’re running Debian stable, your hardware was probably too new for the kernel. Unless they changed their development paradigm when I last ran it, stable is always 2-3 years behind mainline Linux software aside from security patches. It’s one of the key reasons why it’s so stable.

See the Don’t Suffer from Shiny Stuff Syndrome on the official wiki.

bazzett,
@bazzett@lemmy.world avatar

I mean, my laptop is a Dell from 2018-2019 with a 8th gen Core i5, so I don’t think is too “new” 🤷🏻‍♂️.

lemann,

That’s surprising. Dell should have good Linux driver support, seeing as they offer Ubuntu pre-installed in some markets.

Saying that, we have work issued Dell Precision mobile workstations and there are constantly hardware and driver issues under Windows, where you’d expect things to work just fine…

  • the internal microphone not working (handy for meetings!)
  • the 3.5mm combo jack not working (ah, great, no backup for when the internal microphone stops working)
  • the battery handshake failing, causing the machine to not charge, stay stuck in a low performance mode, and constantly pop up Windows notifications saying the battery is not genuine
  • the presence sensor locking the laptop while you’re literally working it

Now I use a USB headset, disabled the presence sensor, and reboot the laptop repeatedly until the battery is detected as genuine

Johanno,

Go to debian-testing. Your dayli updates are back too

bazzett,
@bazzett@lemmy.world avatar

Been there, done that. It wasn’t a bad experience, but also not a good one.

lodaket,
@lodaket@lemmy.world avatar

A testing/sid hybrid is awesome on my hardware. These guides are pretty useful for keeping things sane:

Agent641, in The successor should be called Plan 69 from Bell Labs

I installed plan 9 successfully about 15 years ago. And then I did not know what to do.

Eldritch,

There was at one time a group pushing to make a more active up to date. User friendly plan 9. Distro if I remember correctly called Harvey OS. They may still be at it. But such a small group means that it’s going to take a long time combined with a lot of effort. And at this point so many things have moved on and become rather linux specific even. That the task only keeps getting more and more difficult.

Honestly, in the interim, many of plan 9’s better features were adopted in some small part or completely by other operating systems. Definitely not quite as elegantly.

What I really want to know is why is nobody here talking about inferno. It’s what came after plan 9.

acockworkorange,

Sounds like my experience with QNX 6. It was fun for a while, especially with the microkernel novelty. I could kill the mouse driver and bring it back to life. It was interesting to have that on a 486 with memory corruption issues.

peopleproblems, in Text editor war

it doesn’t matter to me.

I’ll have to Google it anyway. then complain about it, and never actually take the time to learn these neat tools

0xD,

Do you like playing games? 😁

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