In the spirit of bashing Ubuntu, I’d like to propose we stick with the swiss army knife. But it’s one of those strange Kickstarter projects where it’s entirely controlled by an unnecessary phone app.
Arch being something that requires some research and prep beforehand makes sense through. As well as having fans who will swear that is actually quite enjoyable if you try it.
Counterpoint, Ubuntu is popular because it usually has what you need. For home stuff especially the limiting factor is usually time, not processing power.
I’d challenge that asking what do you really need above base Debian?
I’ve got a script to set up my debian servers and it doesn’t include much beyond adding docker, assigning users to groups, and adding a couple tools (just looked them up: sudo ca-certificates curl gnupg ufw).
I saw a significant decrease in idle CPU and RAM load by switching from Ubuntu-server to Debian Bookworm + those tools.
Anyone who bashes distros hasn't really understood Linux. The fact that you can choose gives us the ability to choose the right tool for the job. Ubuntu has pushed a few weird things into the Linux world, but the distro itself is still legit.
Seems like you’re currently using Pop! OS. Just wanted to give you some tips: Don’t install Manjaro, AFAIK their packages are mostly outdated and the distro says it supports the Arch User Repository when it clearly does not and breaks the system. Some more distros that you can use are Nobara (which is Fedora based so there is a chance you will face the same issues), Linux Mint, KDE Neon and Ubuntu.
After researching Nobara was actually my first choice of OS! Sadly, I couldn’t get the live USB off their site to work, all I ever got was a black screen when booting from the USB. When I did it in command line it threw some kernel errors.
Fedora KDEPlasma was my second choice as I liked the desktop layout. It didn’t like it when I installed the nvidia drivers.
Fedora 39 workstation was my last fedora. I actually got Nvidia working on it. But when I tried to play a video from my NAS server it was choppy and would crash when tracking within the video file. Which I’m guessing is some Nvidia compatibility issues based on what I was reading on the forums, which is apparently a known and unresolved issue in Fedora 39 as of now.
Pop!OS just worked. Off the rip, zero issues whatsoever with Nvidia or graphics issues. Most issues have been caused by my inexperience so far.
You can read about my experience with Fedora on my day 1 post if you’d like. Bottom line, there were a TON of issues with Nvidia compatibility, and VLC ran like garbage on it.
Linux users say that this is some kind of easy to use, can replace windows at any point in time, yet one of the most popular distros in existence is definitely not ready for prime time.
My day 2 and 3 posts have been pretty highly upvoted! Almost like linux users only like hearing the good and not the bad.
You came in here and started this saying it’s basically my fault I had a bad time with Fedora. Your condescending and pretentious attitude has been noted, but I’m a new user to Linux my man. None of this is familiar. As my day 2 and 3 posts show I can actually troubleshoot and fix things, if I couldn’t figure it out, I’d say it’s indicative of production and deployment issues on the developers end.
But please feel free to not respond, you’re exactly the kind of Linux user that gives the community it’s negative stigma.
[…] and started this saying it’s basically my fault I had a bad time with Fedora.
It is/was.
[…] Your condescending and pretentious attitude has been noted, […]
I’ll come back to this further down.
[…] but I’m a new user to Linux my man.
And evidently a very ignorant one at that. You come at it with preconceived notions of how distributions should work, and then get angry when they don’t, when five minutes of googling could have prevented your problems. Only to be followed by troll-level low effort rants on the internet.
None of this is familiar.
And blind trial and error is no good way to change that.
As my day 2 and 3 posts show I can actually troubleshoot and fix things, if I couldn’t figure it out, I’d say it’s indicative of production and deployment issues on the developers end.
Or, your aforementioned ignorance and wrong preconceived notions of how you think things should work.
As your day 1 post shows, you have the attention span of a squirrel and frustration tolerance of a toddler. Your assumption, that your opinion on a distribution, after spending less than one day with it, has any merit or value is plain arrogant.
But please feel free to not respond, […]
You can always walk away from this.
[…] you’re exactly the kind of Linux user that gives the community it’s negative stigma.
You are exactly the kind of person, why I’m in favor of something akin to a drivers license for computers.
[…] Your condescending and pretentious attitude has been noted, […]
There’s nothing noteworthy about your arrogance, ignorance, lack of frustration tolerance and attention span.
Then feel free to fuck off.
Your opinions have the substance of a vacuum and structural integrity of a house of cards. Do yourself and “us” (the linux community) a favor and kindly fuck off yourself.
I did. As someone who is also new to Linux and to programming, I’ve run into similar hurdles and it is frustrating. Now I’m not trying to build a gaming system, but just something to learn on. I’m still learning to read through and interpret documentation and it often get way too over my head that I need to ask the community for help; and honestly, I don’t like to because of reactions like yours.
It’s really disheartening to come to the community, try to ask for help and to be told that I should just do it right, or to catch flak for not asking the rifht question, or to have someone share a chunk of code and say, “just use this,” which doesn’t help me learn.
To be clear, my previous comment was a pre-coffee and just irked me in the wrong way; I do owe you an apology for that so, sorry.
I’m still learning to read through and interpret documentation and it often get way too over my head that I need to ask the community for help; […]
And there’s nothing wrong with that. And if you just ask, not even nicely, you’ll usually get productive help. I know I’ve provided help many times, no matter how “noobish” the question.
[…] and honestly, I don’t like to because of reactions like yours.
If you don’t act like a massive asshole, you don’t get such reactions.
It’s really disheartening to come to the community, try to ask for help and to be told that I should just do it right, or to catch flak for not asking the rifht question, or to have someone share a chunk of code and say, “just use this,” which doesn’t help me learn.
He didn’t come and asked. He ranted and shat on everything and everybody. He even received some help despite that. His reaction was offensive and more verbal diarrhea.
To be clear, my previous comment was a pre-coffee and just irked me in the wrong way; I do owe you an apology for that so, sorry.
I hear you I hear you. Whenever people ask me about my device I usually tell them that you just exchange the windows problems for linux problems. I don’t mind fixing things as much because the device really feels like my own so I am more forgiving than I was on my other devices. Don’t know how that is for other distros since there are so many but in my experience but yeah I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve had to repair my bluetooth audio.
Linux users say that this is some kind of easy to use, can replace windows at any point in time, yet one of the most popular distros in existence is definitely not ready for prime time.
Well should we consider device specific issues? First of all thoose device manufacturers never made it for linux and when a new device comes in, its likely broken.
What I would say linux can easily replace windows is when a working linux install(i.e. when its running in a fully compatible device), can do all computing needs. And I think linux actually does that.
I know you wouldn’t buy a new device for linux but even windows when you manually install in a device requires much setup and driver installs to get working well. But in the windows side, drivers are always availiable unlike in linux where community needs to reverse engineer and make the drivers themselves, which is always late than windows.
Yeah I think that’s kinda the point. Fedora does a bunch of things in really specific ways that aren’t at all like Debian based distros or Mac or windows. Eg - Selinux. So you, initial experience is pretty poor if you don’t know a decent amount about what’s going on
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