wuphysics87,

God damnit… Btw

confusedbytheBasics,

Does not check out. My espresso machine is the mirror image of the one in this meme but I use Fedora.

Steamymoomilk,

Hold on, my coffee is still compiling from source. Ive been messing with funtoo and its ironically very fun.

wavebeam,
@wavebeam@lemmy.world avatar

All I’m getting from this is that arch is easier than I expected and will give me a much better end result than the distros I’m used to.

Pantherina,

It is very manual though. For rolling release BTRFS snapshots like on Fedora and Opensuse Tumbleweed are a total must.

FuglyDuck, (edited )
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

I suppose this depends entirely on your expectations?

DrRatso,

Absolutely yes to the first part, just use archinstall. The second is in large part up to you, but pacman + AUR are amazing.

Acters,

Yeah, this is the way, doing it manually is fun and all but its highly unnecessary extra effort as there are very little reasons as all of it is just configuration of the system. Archinstall is just the Text-GUI version that still offers the customize ability of the install. Heck you can load a configuration file that you can make before hand so that you don’t need to babysit the installation and can reproduce it in other systems/PCs.

bastian_5,

I use Ubuntu and that is literally the coffee machine I use… Except I don’t use the actual cups, I’m basically only using it as a source of hot water, and instead I use different cups that are reusable, and just are there to hold the coffee grounds. And similarly, I got flathub on Ubuntu, installed shit to get appimages working, and accidentally uninstalled gnome at one point, which took me an hour to fix mostly because it just stopped at a terminal I couldn’t input anything on, so I had to figure out that I could open up a new one that would actually let me log in and reinstall gnome.

Rootiest,
@Rootiest@lemmy.world avatar

mostly because it just stopped at a terminal I couldn’t input anything on, so I had to figure out that I could open up a new one that would actually let me log in and reinstall gnome

Ctrl + Alt + F3

bastian_5, (edited )

The problem was more that I didn’t even know what I was looking at. It just stopped at a screen with terminal output from it booting up, so I thought it was just stuck… After a bit I found something on an arch forum that mentioned opening up a new terminal instance (or something like that), and how to do it, which led me to realize that gnome got uninstalled.

Once I figured that out it only took 5 minutes to fix, but I only found that after an hour of assuming that it was frozen and trying to fix that.

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

Fedora should be French press but yeah lol

Pantherina,

True. Tooling but not too much.

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

Looks complicated to the uninitiated, works fairly quickly and simply to those that are familiar with coffee, but the output is divided between those that believe it to be a superior product for the commitment and those that don’t see it as worth it compared to other methods.

Sounds just like Fedora lol

Rootiest,
@Rootiest@lemmy.world avatar

Hannah Montana Linux: Red Bull

Kyrinar,

Mostly brew mine with the chemex, and the occasional moka pot. But I’ve been running Pop os

Nobsi,
@Nobsi@feddit.de avatar

Ubuntu User with a Gentoo Coffee Machine

al177,

Slackware is the 50 year old percolator in the break room of the DMV.

Hiro8811,

I’m to lazy to do my homework. Can anyone explain what’s wrong with Ubuntu?

neonred, (edited )

Ubuntu is a product of Canonical which are a pretty evil corporation and a submarine of Microsoft. What they don’t leech off Debian is proprietay and lock-in.

Hiro8811,

I’ll look into it. Thanks for the heads-up

MalReynolds,
@MalReynolds@slrpnk.net avatar

remember, do not feed the trolls… That said, snaps suck vs flatpak or appimage.

dejected_warp_core, (edited )

As a commercial OS, it’s fine. LTS releases, great headless experience, and dependency graph that is progressive but not as frozen in time as RedHat.

As an end-user OS, the dizzying number of ways to get usable apps into the GUI cut deep against advanced users. Especially when advanced use cases smash into incompatibilities and easy-to-make mistakes that break stuff. But if you’re willing to rock a lot of defaults and just slap things together from the package manager, it works okay.

neshura,
@neshura@bookwormstory.social avatar

Not too deep in that conversation but afaik it’s a series of choices that just continuously make Ubuntu less usable.

from what I “know” it seems to be mostly:

  • the baffling decision to keep riding the dead Snap train instead of the now widespread Flatpak one.
  • some drama around them switching from Gnome 2 -> Own Desktop -> Gnome 3 and related decisions, not sure what the problems there were but apparently a lot of people didn’t like it.
  • some stuff about telemetry, not sure how relevant this is currently but I heard some people complain about it.

Again, not really sure that’s it but it’s what I recall hearing here and there.

vox, (edited )
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

and they’re using gnome 40+ now, but gnome 40 is actually great, unlike gnome 3

Hiro8811,

What distro would you suggest? I abandoned windows 10 for Ubuntu but it didn’t grew on me. I know Linux Mint is friendlier but I thought giving Ubuntu a try

neonred,

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www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyADkmRVe0U

neshura, (edited )
@neshura@bookwormstory.social avatar

Depends on your use case honestly. Do you play a lot of games? If so I would recommend against stable distros like Mint. Without knowing more I’d probably say:

  • Mostly Browsing or Work in Office Editors: Linux Mint or Kubuntu since Updates are stable and generally don’t break anything.
  • A lot of gaming: Arch via Archinstall or ArcoLinux (ArcoLinux is imo a bit more confusing while getting the image file, after it is superior to ArchInstall for newbies because the installer is a bit more familiar) since you’ll benefit from a shortened update cycle. The drawback here is that occasionally (or often depending on what you install) updates break things.

Edit: Also a general recommendation: Stick to Windows-like Desktops for the beginning, these are (to my knowledge) XFCE and more prominently KDE Plasma. It will save you the additional task of getting used to your desktop environment while you get familiar with how Linux “works” as your main OS.

Hiro8811, (edited )

I played around with Kali(I know I know) and raspberry pi for a bit and I got the hang of it a bit. Think I’ll go with Mint on one drive for school and such and on the other drive Arch for gaming. Thank you for your time.

neshura, (edited )
@neshura@bookwormstory.social avatar

Think I’ll go with Mint on one drive for school and such and on the other drive Arch for gaming

Nothing exactly wrong with that but I don’t think you’ll need the extra layer of separation. Most Apps on Mint should be available Arch as well and run generally as Bug free as on Mint (Edit: a “graphical” representation of what level of Bugginess you can expect: Many Bugs > Some Bugs > Few Bugs > Windows 10 (personal experience) > Arch Linux > Almost no Bugs > Linux Mint > No Bugs). Not splitting the OS would save you some hassle (for example after school work is done you can start gaming faster as well as simpler disk partitioning) on the other hand depending on yourself it might offer advantages (can’t get as easily distracted from schoolwork with games if you have to reboot the PC for it)

Hiro8811,

I know that you apps are available across distributions but I wanted to use a stable distro for school that I trust not to brake and another one where I can experience and customize without worrying to much about breaking it.

neshura,
@neshura@bookwormstory.social avatar

as I said nothing wrong with it, just wanted to add some info in case the decision was made based on some misunderstanding. If you think that’s the best fit for you go for it

Hiro8811,

I’m not yet sure but I’ll try them out. Thank you for taking the time

neonred,

Debian sid is just as fresh and a (nearly) rolling release distribution. I game on it with Wine, Cyperpunk, X4, Baldur’s Gate and others are no problem.

neshura,
@neshura@bookwormstory.social avatar

Didn’t know about that, would go into the same category as Arch then.

neonred,

Been using my Bialetti Moka Express… for 10+ years… I use Debian btw…

Agent641,

Mint linux is a cup of tea.

JoeKis,

*Mint tea precisely

Anti_Face_Weapon,

I’m really sad there isn’t a French press on here. That’s what I use and I was hoping to discover what my coffee distro is :-(

SpaceCadet,
@SpaceCadet@feddit.nl avatar

I’m really sad there isn’t a French press on here

Nor a moka pot, which is my preferred way.

dejected_warp_core,

Seeing as how the grounds are still sitting in the finished product, I’m going to say BSD but you don’t clear out the ports tree.

Anti_Face_Weapon,

I’m not a BSD guy, but I like your analogy

keefshape,

As a French press user, I also opt for easier routes to Arch (EndeavourOS), and my head canon says so do we all.

aniki,

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  • keefshape,

    Still scarred from my first Arch introduction years ago, I guess. Before it did.

    Anti_Face_Weapon,

    It has a step-by-step guide on the wiki lol

    keefshape,

    Yup, those scars.

    Cowbee,

    This meme is fake! Espresso only takes 15 minutes from start to end! At least, if you cut out preheating the machine…

    cries

    YodaDaCoda,
    @YodaDaCoda@sh.itjust.works avatar

    I worked out that I can better/ more quickly preheat my portafilter using the water from the kettle for the wife’s instant coffee.

    Cowbee,

    Giga brain Chad over here! Nah, my partner and I wake up at different times, and she doesn’t even like coffee in the first place. I usually start preheating my machine before taking a shower in the morning, and that gives enough time for my flair to preheat. All I need to do is manually grind, start the kettle, and do my puck prep, then good to go!

    It’s honestly a comfy ritual, plus you get to pull a great turbo shot every morning for pennies compared to even a Starbucks, for far better quality. Does it “save” money? No, but it’s a hobby I love!

    qprimed,

    everyone needs a good vice hobby.

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