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Annoyed_Crabby, in Which pill do you choose?

Blue, easy. A 6 years old me can’t do much even with my current knowledge, and i have to live through a childhood with my current world view and a slightly abusive father. Even if my goal is to redo everything it will take years for me to even have people taking me seriously, or have the “requirement” to set things up, i’ll be stuck in a child body with no one listening, that’s a nightmare.

10 millions though, i can set aside 50k to be used in the near future, pay off my mortgages, and the rest invest in a low risk profile and live off the rest of my life from dividends, and perhaps set up businesses in that actually reward blue collar worker.

psud,

Workers co-op is a good model for worker rewarding structures

thatsTheCatch, in Wrong explanations only

Rub the stick back and forth against the other to generate free wifi for the worms. They can’t repay you in away way but they will be very thankful

LemmyKnowsBest, (edited )

They can show their thanks by crawling into your bed at night when you are at your most vulnerable deepest stage of sleep.

thatsTheCatch,

I love how they feel

rekabis, in Which pill do you choose?

6 years of age would put me in 1978.

There is a lot I could do from that point onward, that would make $10M look like spare change. Like investing in Apple, or working with Tim Berners-Lee to more effectively launch an Internet that could better resist corporatization and enshittification.

psud,

Have you any ideas how enshittification can be prevented without preventing Slashdot and Reddit? Like you can’t make a non commercial rule without making a more barren internet. Maybe the best you could do is get a Lemmy-like thing up and open source before Reddit could emerge

numberfour002, in Which pill do you choose?

Ten million USD in 2024 is more than enough for me and my family to live out comfortable lives, to be honest. I’d just take that, live off the interest. It will present its own problems, of course, but I’m sure I can figure those out.

Going back in time with any specific goal or intent (like making lots more money than ten million dollars by 2024) is almost certainly going to end up being its own kind of hell in this situation and especially so when there’s no guarantee that I’ll actually be successful in that pursuit. No guarantee that I’d arrive at the new 2024 with more than ten million dollars, no guarantee I’d be able to “fix” anything without causing worse problems for myself and others, no guarantee that I’d get here alive again, sounds like quite a bit of a risk.

Plus, once I go back to age 6 and start making different decisions, a different future will necessarily emerge. Think about it this way, in order to not change the future (until you’re at a point where you can reasonably execute a plan to reach your goals), you’d have to make exactly the same decisions you did when you were 6. Pretty much nobody has that kind of memory/recall, so it would literally come down to sheer luck. And the further along in time things progress, as you make more and more different decisions than you did originally, the more uncertainty it would introduce to the new future. Eventually, you may even find that you basically have no more ability to recall/predict the future than you would have otherwise.

So if you’re in it for the money, just take the guaranteed money.

krashmo,

Sure all that’s theoretically possible, but realistically no one reading this post is influencing global events on any significant scale. Especially if you’re just doing normal kid stuff. A random kid ordering spaghetti instead of chicken nuggets is meaningless in the grand scheme of things. The same goes for just about any choice you’d likely be presented with.

numberfour002,

realistically no one reading this post is influencing global events on any significant scale.

I’m not really sure where influencing global events comes into play with my prior comment, but I agree with you. However, when I posted my comment, I really mostly only saw people discussing relative and personal changes they’d make, so I’m also sort of thinking that global events are mostly irrelevant.

Especially if you’re just doing normal kid stuff. A random kid ordering spaghetti instead of chicken nuggets is meaningless in the grand scheme of things. The same goes for just about any choice you’d likely be presented with.

If you’re focused on the ramifications of any one specific choice, then I feel like you’re missing the forest for the tree (to coopt a popular idiom).

Every choice you make and everything you do differently will change things in some way, even if only to an imperceptible degree. From the moment you arrive back at your 6 year old self, you will constantly be making different decisions and doing things differently, whether you want to or not. The cumulative effects of these minute changes over time will make things increasingly more unpredictable and the new timeline and old timeline will necessarily diverge.

Then consider that some things in life are literally a cumulation of everything that you’ve done and everything that happened to you up to that point. Even small changes will have an impact. For instance, think of someone with biological children who goes back in time. The children they end up the second time around will be completely different people because of how random the process is that leads to two specific gametes being involved in the fertilization process. Literally eating spaghetti as a 6 year old could affect the outcome there, let alone the millions/billions/trillions of different actions that person would make over the decade(s) leading up to their child/childrens’ conception. Perhaps having completely different kids is still inconsequential, but that’s literally just one example, so I wouldn’t get too hung up on the specifics.

psud,

I don’t think many of us are significant enough to change anything, at least until we time travel with intent to make enough money to fix some of the problems of now

SuckMyWang, in IDF be like

Serious question. Are there any reports of Hamas using white flags to trick IDF in the past?

Viking_Hippie,

Even if there was, that wouldn’t excuse shooting first and asking questions never like the IDF did this time and every other of the thousands of times they’ve murdered civilians.

SuckMyWang, (edited )

That doesn’t answer my question at all and jumped straight to what aboutism. Real constructive conversation

Viking_Hippie, (edited )

No, your question was itself a whataboutism (what about Hamas? Have they ever tried to trick IDF that way?).

I simply replied to the underlying assertion that, if they have, then the IDF are somehow the least bit justified in assuming that it was Hamas. Which they wouldn’t be.

One of them shouted “look! Terrorists!” and they just started shooting without ever considering that he might be wrong.

SuckMyWang, (edited )

No, no it’s not. It’s a reasonable question to do with the actions of the ADF. I never even said I support the ADF. Really just a weird response at the end of the day, I can only deduce (because you’re refusing to go near any answer to my question) that they may have done it before. If they had never done that you could have confidently just said no. Hamas would never do such a thing but here we are still communicating while I get no closer to any information on whether or not Hamas have done that in the past

Viking_Hippie,

It’s a reasonable question to do with the actions of the ADF

It categorically isn’t. There are ways of verifying other than shooting them to bits and then identifying them afterwards. Also, it’s IDF.

I never even said I support the ADF.

All the more reason not to try to justify their murder. Also, it’s still IDF.

I can only deduce (because you’re refusing to go near any answer to my question) that they may have done it before.

I honestly have no idea. I haven’t checked because it makes no difference in whether the IDF were justified in their murder. They weren’t regardless.

If they had never done that you could have confidently just said no.

That would be lying, though, since I don’t know if they have.

here we are still communicating while I get no closer to any information on whether or not Hamas have done that in the past

Because I refuse to answer your irrelevant whataboutism question and you keep insisting I do. If you want to know, find out for yourself and THEN pretend that it justifies anything.

yewler,

Can I ask what use this information would have to you?

psud, in Which pill do you choose?

These “would you rather” memes are mind poison when both sides are impossible fantasies

WaxedWookie,

Why?

I think they can be useful thought exercises to tease out people’s priorities and values.

psud,

I’ll grant they’re fun

lazylion_ca,

They are a way to get to know each other.

Aggravationstation, in Which pill do you choose?

With the red pill, do I go back in time to when I was 6 with all of my knowledge or become a different 6 year old now with all of my knowledge?

AlfredEinstein,

Becoming some random six-year-old would be pretty jarring

Aggravationstation,

Yea, or do I become me as a six year old in the modern day?

If it was a monkey paw type of situation you’d probably become a six year old child in pre-historic times.

Morcyphr,

You become a 6 year old in the present, and you spawn at Point Nemo.

psud,

Monkey paw is supposed to suck, not be instant death

SatansMaggotyCumFart, in No one can stop me

That’s how I make fridge cheese.

dubyakay,

Story time: back when I lived with my parents and siblings, my “room” was a loft above the open concept living + dining + kitchen room, covering most of the living room part. It was a 30sqm room with 4m ceiling height mind you, so even the loft was pretty spacious, giving me about 1.8m height (plenty for me) and 10sqm living space.

The fridge and kitchen was in the opposite corner of the stairs leading up to my loft. Since warm air rises, I’d get all the nice smells stuck in my loft area, unless I opened the small window installed for the express purpose of ventilation.

Since my family members would sometimes come up to the loft to the dresser containing most sheets, or to bother me while playing vidya, on the way up they’ve started making remarks like “Eww Dubya Kay. Open the window and go and shower already!” I’ve noticed a particular, rotten milk smell as well, so I’ve complied, reluctantly. However the smell did not go away.

This went on for about two months, during which time we’ve established that the smell did not emanate from me, but it was indeed strongest opposite the fridge in the corner, on top of the stairs leading to my loft. There were a bunch of books on a shelf there, so we went through them but nothing. Then we looked under the stairs with the couch, but again nothing. So we thought it must come from our fridge. We’ve defrosted and cleaned it out. Voila!

This lasted for a day or two until the smell was back with a vengeance. Strong rancid cheese smell, slightly burnt undertones. We were certain now that it’s the fridge, so we figured something must have gotten onto the mechanics part of it. We unplugged it again and then pulled it away from the corner it was in… and lo and behold, there was the nastiest orange cheese-like substance covering some of the heat dissipating parts on the bottom, along with some stuck on one of the caster wheels and some on the motor housing as well. We figured it must have been some milk that somehow spilled from the top.

SatansMaggotyCumFart,

Did you use it to make a grilled fridge milk cheese?

ShaggySnacks, in Which pill do you choose?

Fuck binary choices. I’m taking both. Radical free will baby!

psud,

Taking them in the best order will be hard since the blue pill or its 10M would be left in the old timeline - or if there’s only one timeline, left in the lost future

You could take the blue pill and live it up for however long, try not to die suddenly, then take the red pill. That sounds risky to me

kittenzrulz123, in God bless the imperial system and bald eagles 🦅🦅🦅🦅 (oil too)

NYC subway isn’t that bad, yeah it’s not mind blowing but it works and when you need to commute that’s all that matters

drbluefall,
@drbluefall@toast.ooo avatar

I would contest that it is mind-blowing.

I may be biased since I live in the city, but being able to get damn near anywhere (that’s not Staten Island, but fuck Staten Island) for the price of a bag of chips is pretty cool.

kittenzrulz123,

That’s what I meant, you won’t find grand architecture or fancy stations but you can get anywhere (I also live in the city)

lemmefixdat4u, (edited ) in Which pill do you choose?

Assuming that the red pill lets me revert to a 6YO (thus preserving my knowledge), and not time traveling back to when I was 6, I might be tempted to do a lot of unethical stuff to make a ton of money, provide for my family, convert the remaining assets to BTC, memorize the wallet details, then take the red pill. As a 6YO, the government can’t hold me responsible for my adult conduct.

If it’s a time travel situation, there’s no contest. Red pill after studying the history of inventions. Start out by inventing the Pet Rock (near zero initial investment), reinvest in the fidget spinner, Pokemon, D&D, and writing the scripts to all the blockbuster movies. Provide technical details to the right industries for a royalty. Invest heavily in the creation of the Internet, then start Facebook, Google, and Amazon, bypass the PC and jump straight to smartphones. I’d be the patent king of the world.

With the trillions of dollars, I’d heavily influence politics. I’d fully fund the campaigns of moderates, institute free Internet-based accredited college, set up work training programs to support industries I intentionally locate in depressed areas, and make most of my business non-profit. And maybe, just maybe, avoid the cesspool we have today.

Edited for spelling

dutchkimble,

Or, you could just get a sports almanac

lemmefixdat4u,

Yes, you could memorize an almanac ala “Back to the Future”. But sporting event outcomes are often dictated by random events that may or may not happen. Your best bet is to build on your own efforts based on generalized trends.

psud,

You’ll want to be pretty old to get in before some of those inventions.

skulblaka, in Which pill do you choose?

Red pill, buy bitcoin, easy win

Hawk,

Nothing has been said about time travel though

psud, (edited )

It must be time travel or it’s a bad deal - become 6, also orphan or effective orphan, also undocumented, become a missing person in your old self

If that was the deal, the millions side would have conditions like it’s stolen money and the mob know who has it

And where’s the fun in any of that?

DragonTypeWyvern,

Don’t buy, produce.

BulbasaurBabu,

Instructions unclear, I am pregernate

Palkom,

Yoy got it, no buying produce.

7u5k3n,

0.00099 was the lowest price at the start… $500 then wouldnhave gotten you 505,050.50 coins at $50k /per

Would be $25,252,525,252.526

That’s all you’d need to do… never mind the knowledge of apple Google Amazon etc stock.

greenskye,

Actually managing to sell that many coins would be pretty difficult. I remember exchanges crashing on the day it peaked as everyone was trying to sell. It’d still be way to make a lot of money though.

7u5k3n,

Yeah that’s very true… Heck like you said that’s a lot of money… You could.have started selling 100s at a time for much lower years prior… it would have been easier, 100 a day of Bitcoin being sold would raise flags and you’d still make absolute stupid money.

Ah well. If only lol

psud,

Selling thousands at a time as you get closer to the peak.

militaryintelligence, in Which pill do you choose?

Money. I ain’t doing this shit again.

WarmSoda,

Amen

Razzazzika,

But you can do it better the second time. Also you can be rich if when you turn 18 you invest in things you know succeed like Apple, Microsoft, amazon… granted I dunno how young you are, but I’d be going back to the early 90s, and could invest in stuff in the early 2000s

WarmSoda, (edited )

It doesn’t matter how young or old anyone is. Living another 12 years as a child is not worth any amount of money.

Unless you really love the idea of going thru K-8 and then highschool again as an adult in a kids body…

TheBat,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

Unless you really love the idea of going thru K-8 and then highschool again as an adult in a kids body…

But you know so much now, exams would be a piece of cake.

BunEnjoyer,

Haha, not when it’s memorizations. I’d doubt I’d pass most of my exams in uni.

psud,

With adult knowledge, but your brain would be your age. You’d have the kid ability to learn. Become fluent in another language if you want

WarmSoda, (edited )

Yes, I’m aware of what we were talking about.

You don’t need to be a child to learn another language.

Zerush, in Which pill do you choose?
@Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

With the red pill, the blue pill is redundant.

YoorWeb,

Imagine all the sweet sweet bitcoin that you’ll sell to invest in Gamestop stock at just the right time.

psud, (edited )

I’d probably make the first money on Apple. Maybe on the up part of the dot com bubble.

Betting on elections too.

People looking at your history would notice your exceptional luck

I wonder if the effort to make money would break some of the big moving companies, prevent Bitcoin

Gotta remember to big short 2007

BunEnjoyer,

It’s just a question of whether or not you want to repeat, for many that’s a solid no

52fighters, in Which pill do you choose?

There’s nearly 0% odds I end up with the same wife and kids twice and I hit the jackpot the first time around. Give me the money.

DragonTypeWyvern,

But with enough money you can buy a better kid!

Annoyed_Crabby,

But this one will grow up to be a goat!

psud,

It would be so creepy trying for the same partner. So much of relationship building is learning about each other and you’ll never be surprised by their side of those conversations

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