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problematicPanther, in Tick tock...
@problematicPanther@lemmy.world avatar

i’m about as useful as a screen door on a submarine today

neonred, (edited ) in Bankruptcy is lifesaving

Filing for bankruptcy is offloading your responsibility to others who then have to pay with their money for your faults.

It’s a cheap way out for people that do not act responsibly.

Bankruptcy? Okay, but then lose all saying in your money spending because you just proved you can’t handle it yourself.

louisinidus,

Can you please explain briefly plz bro. I know pretty much nothing about bankruptcy.

YeetPics,
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It’s irresponsible for banks to loan money, they pay many people salaries for risk assessment before loaning it. Also their loan is insured so even if you don’t pay it back they write the loss off.

neonred,

Indeed. But they want to make money, so they rise the interest rate to make even more money and cut losses on failed debt repayments.

They solely exist to make money by extorting the people in debt. Who would have guessed?

So? Never have debts.

“Consumer” debts should ethically not exist as consumers just consume the money and are therefore not able to pay it back as it is not an “investment” debt, which has the chance to succeed.

31337,

Poor banks :( The irresponsible poors need to do things the right way, and lobby congress to bail them out.

problematicPanther,
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you do realize that bankruptcy does have consequences, right? for one, it’s nearly impossible to find a new place to live if you’ve ever declared bankruptcy. If you work in certain sectors, you can lose your job. if you’re a government worker, you’d lose your security clearance or probably even a public trust. If you lose your job, new companies that might hire you would likely do a credit check for some reason and find you unqualified because of that bankruptcy.

neonred, (edited )

So it’s double-triple bad to have debt? Then manage the finances, assess the risks, cut unrealistic expectations that will toss you into the debt spiral, because it’s triple-bad. Who is to blame?

Hyperlon,

The average credit card interest rate is 25%. Yes people shouldn’t borrow money they can’t pay back. However that doesn’t change the fact that interest rates on credit cards are wildly high and entrap people in a loop of only paying the interest off. Bankruptcy is their only hope of escape from that debt cycle.

TheGalacticVoid,

People “spend irresponsibly” for a ton of reasons like medical expenses, paying for a funeral, having mental illnesses that they don’t even know about, etc. Life happens.

They received money from a rich guy or corporation who knows of the risk of their money going “poof.” Creditors aren’t mom-and-pop shops, and they will survive if an investment doesn’t go well. The same cannot be said for the person in deep credit card debt. Oftentimes, the lenders are the ones who have predatory practices and purposefully make it easier for peoples’ debt to spiral out of control, and you shouldn’t feel bad for those lenders.

neonred,

About these unexpected costs:

  • medical insurance is a must, otherwise you are gambling and the chances to lose this bet are quite high.
  • funerals happen unexpected - when they actually absolutely do not. Everybody can be sure to die, so plan accordingly.
  • being “in deep credit card debt” is too late. One should never have swam out this far. Being “a tiny little bit in debt” should have the alarm bells blasting as financing is not self sustaining, “a tiny litte bit” is already much too late already because you’ve entered the spiral
  • student debts - well, not everybody has to study. If you can’t afford it reflect on it, if you really must. And if yes, seek alternatives like leaving the country tht is hell-bent to enslave you in debt if you want to study, find sponsors, arrange it with your expectations about a longer time horizon, etc. You are not able to pay for it? Do not do it! Seek solutions.
TheGalacticVoid,

medical insurance is a must, otherwise you are gambling and the chances to lose this bet are quite high.

You can still have deep medical debt with good insurance. Saying otherwise is incredibly wrong and out of touch. This also ignores how good insurance is inaccessible to a good chunk of the population.

funerals happen unexpected - when they actually absolutely do not. Everybody can be sure to die, so plan accordingly.

Explain how someone who has 0 room in their budget after food, rent, and utilities can plan for the costs of a sudden death. The situation I described is incredibly common in America.

  • being “in deep credit card debt” is too late. One should never have swam out this far. Being “a tiny little bit in debt” should have the alarm bells blasting as financing is not self sustaining, “a tiny litte bit” is already much too late already because you’ve entered the spiral

Please explain how to avoid credit card debt when basic necessities cannot be obtained with the income you have. Assume that you can’t get a 2nd job because of child or eldercare duties.

  • student debts - well, not everybody has to study. If you can’t afford it reflect on it, if you really must. And if yes, seek alternatives like leaving the country tht is hell-bent to enslave you in debt if you want to study, find sponsors, arrange it with your expectations about a longer time horizon, etc. You are not able to pay for it? Do not do it! Seek solutions.

This would leave college inaccessible to the vast majority of students, especially from lower income families. Not going to college isn’t a solution when well-paying jobs require college degrees.

Your “solutions” in 2024 are essentially blaming lower-income individuals for being lower income individuals. Oftentimes, these lower-income individuals are lower-income because they were born into lower-income families and had fewer opportunities to become wealthy as a result. In 2024, basic necessities are inaccessible to many Americans because their wages aren’t high enough to meet the rising costs of these basic necessities. Their choice is to either suffer without basic needs and be able to afford less and less because their wages remain stagnant or to make poor financial choices to be able to live. Yes, the US has safety-net programs to help lower-income individuals gain more opportunities. No, these programs are not enough because they are underfunded, and the funds allocated to them are mishandled. No, it is not easy for individuals to get out of deep poverty. No, “don’t make even a single financial mistake in your life or you’ll suffer for 70+ years” is not a solution.

variants, in How was this a feel good story?!

Reminds me of some nature movie where there was an albino antelope and it was shunned from the pack because it was different and then some snake ate it

cerulean_blue,

Well there is a clear evolutionary advantage to being wary of ‘difference’ and you can see that behaviour in nearly every species. Yes, even fluffy puppy dogs.

Human society is the one exception. We have beaten mother nature in the natural world (hunger, warmth and shelter) and now we are focussing on the primordial mother nature within us. Where we cant directly fix a physical or genetic weakness, we reprogramme ourselves (via society) to normalise and accept differences amongst us.

Attitudes to Rudolph show how much we have changed in recent years.

lolcatnip, in Treat yo self.

Want to see an astrophysicist talk for nearly an hour on the general topic of why Christmas gifts (but not gifts in general) are bad? You’re in luck!

Kiwi_Girl, in Take it easy
@Kiwi_Girl@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Take it easy, but take it.

Sabre363, in Uh-Oh

Why is men laughing such a bad thing?

originalucifer, in Home Stallone
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

some day it will be plausible to deep fake this pretty quickly, and i will love it.

Mothra,
@Mothra@mander.xyz avatar

We get closer to that day. And not only that, it will also be possible to substitute dialogue to anything of your liking.

captainlezbian, in Tis the Season

It’s axial tilt right?

kautau, in Chill. They didn't actually tell their family to buy crypto.

This is the worst on nsfw posts where it’s a serial reposter and all the thirsty comments are… yeah

wreckedcarzz, in Tis the Season
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

It totally wouldn’t be to line execs pockets with a few bullshit stories that people fall for like insects to a trap-

Hallmark

Oh, right, what was I thinking

mexicancartel, in Chill. They didn't actually tell their family to buy crypto.

MOAR JPEG

lastunusedusername2, in Chill. They didn't actually tell their family to buy crypto.

Why are you taking every meme as literally as possible?

Yerbouti, in I'll be spending Christmas with Lemmy this year, thank you

DWAC stocks will skyrocket any day now. You should invest.

quackers, in Both beliefs are fine, but please realize the hypocrisy

it’s not a fair comparison, in the sense that the religions people tens to not believe in are those with disputable claims in a book dictated by god.
Caims such as simulation theory or unspecified god without evidence for or against it make way more sense than major deistic religions. And again, that’s not to say it’s true, its just significantly more likely to be accurate.

troglodytis, in yo where tf my uber driver taking me

Dude, where tf your Uber driver taking ya?

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