DeadMartyr, YYYY-MM-DD (honestly without dashes) is the only helpful format.
If you name all your files with this as a suffix then your files automatically sort versions of themselves in order when sorting by name.
starman2112, ISO 8601 baby
Though it ought to be a prefix, not a suffix
PilferJynx, Yeah this method is superior for digital filing. I can’t imagine the sorting clusters I’d have to go through to find what I want any other way
numanair, You mean as a prefix, right?
Shayreelz, Their assumption is that the filename is the same otherwise e.g. myNotes20231122.txt
numanair, Oh I see, thanks. Good alternative to final3_release2.
CapeWearingAeroplane, Came here to say this, I use DD.MM.YY in day-to-day stuff, but for files it’s either YYYY_MM_DD or YY_MM_DD, the automatic ordering is beautiful
disconnectikacio, YYYY-MM-DD in Hungary too, that us shit is totally non logical, i cant get used to it
rdri, This is literally the most logical method to name a date in text.
joneskind, In what text?
In French we say “14 juillet 1789”
We don’t even say “nth day of”
rdri, In a text like “the research started at 2003-01-24”, or pretty much in any other text where you need to convey all 3 elements.
I bet you also don’t say “14 07 1789”, because that’s what MM format means.
joneskind, You bet wrong
We write AND say “La Révolution a démarré le 14/07/1789” or “La Révolution à démarré le 14 juillet 1789”
Spoken numbered month are usually used in an administrative context, to ease the work of our contact.
rdri, Oh that’s right, the spoken administrative context. Same in my dd-mm-yyyy county actually. Still, I find it less intuitive than the logical yyyy-mm-dd when understanding written text.
SendMePhotos, Fuckin wait until you hear how many feet are in a mile. You all should’ve waterboarded us harder while we were a young country.
ASeriesOfPoorChoices, FIvE tOMaToeS
lichtmetzger, It’s very easy to sort by this format, makes perfect sense.
CommanderCloon, Easier to sort by YYYY-MM-DD than MM-DD-YYYY tho
lichtmetzger, Dammit, I misread here. Of course, the US format is terrible.
Algaroth, We do that in Sweden as well. Our social security numbers are that plus 4 unique numbers. The beers I send out to stores have yyyy-mm-dd printed at the bottom.
sukhmel, So no more than 10 thousands of Swedes may get an SSN at the same day (or be born at the same day even 🤔)?
Algaroth, (edited ) Hasn’t been a problem so far. I’m guessing maybe they will add numbers or use letters if it comes up. They recentled started doing that on license plates.
Siegfried, 119 doesent feel the same
jwt, (edited ) “Steel Beams Can’t Melt Jet Fuel.”
wait… it actually makes sense this way
hungryphrog, What about YY/DD/MM?
Crackhappy, Oh fuck off. ;)
hungryphrog, I’ll fuck of when it’s 2024/22/11.
Crackhappy, (edited ) Hey. If you use your format, then you won’t be able to celebrate the new year on 123123, 233112 just doesn’t have the same ring to it
rustyricotta, If that one doesn’t tickle you, we do have more options to explore like MM/YY/DD or DD/YY/MM
Hell, we even have options like MDY/MDY
Sanyanov, DD/YY/MM is the devil incarnate
ZILtoid1991, Japanese 2023年12月22日
kpw, Japanese 令和5年12月22日
stebo02, 令和五年十二月二十二日
Siegfried, I like that this includes 2 of the 4 numbers that i can understand from japanese (chinese numerals?)
Sanyanov, Funny that only in full Chinese (or Japanese, since 令和 represents a new emperor era in Japan?) I noticed the month is December.
It’s 22nd of November, folks
stebo02, yeah i realised after, I guess some people are just really excited about Christmas
Resol, Yep, today is 2023, November 22.
Someone should make this an alternative date format in English, it looks and works really well.
Hovenko, MMDDYY is just a mess. Otherwise… US problems, I don’t care…
okr765, Not to us burgerland citizens! 🇺🇲🇺🇲🦅🦅💥💥
Hovenko, (edited ) The most American statement ever :D
Edit: I am taking it back and admitting defeat. America != US. I am ashamed.
Algaroth, Massive trucks that increase fatalities. Bald eagles that are endangered because of Americans, and sound like red tailed Hawks for some reason. Fireworks that are more heavily regulated than guns.
I love Americans but your country is run like a ball of yarn in a box of cats.
Cosmonauticus, Bald eagles aren’t endangered anymore.
Plus being American and having lived abroad every country has their bullshit. You just hear about America’s shit because it has the most popular forms of mass media.
Dumbasses are plentiful everywhere
Algaroth, I don’t like all Americans and you are the kind I don’t. You’re an idiot. I was going to say imbecile but I doubt you know what that means.
Cosmonauticus, This will surely keep me up at night.
Didn’t know saying no country is perfect was such a controversial statement
Algaroth, Getting irrationally defensive over facts is the part no one likes. Large trucks kill people at a higher rate. Fact. Bald eagle is still endangered. Red tailed hawk which is the bird that makes the actual sound, endangered. Many states in the us regulate fireworks harder than guns. Acknowledge your faults.
Cosmonauticus, (edited ) No one was denying anything… all I said was essentially no country is perfect. A pretty level headed response in my opinion
Algaroth, deleted_by_author
Cosmonauticus, You said BALD EAGLES are endangered. They’re not. They’re not dieing anymore. Their numbers are healthy. Bringing up global warming is YOU not being able to admit you’re wrong. No one denied anything about gun laws or traffic deaths from trucks which is why I said no country is perfect. Which again is a pretty nuanced response
ASeriesOfPoorChoices, Welcome to Lemmy. Enjoy your stay.
exixx, There is of course a relevant xkcd page
ShaunaTheDead, It makes sense to either go general to specific or specific to general. MM-DD-YYYY is neither.
praise_idleness, It’s 1700663620 now.
Rolando, The right answer is: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_time
Imgonnatrythis, Pretty f’d up we can’t all even agree on this. Between this and DST, humanity is just pretty hopeless.
r00ty, (edited ) How about 0xYYYMDD or 0xYYYYMDD if you need years after 4095 for some reason.
Today is 0x7e7b16
takeda, Congrats, you made it even less practical. Why not make it binary if that’s the goal?
r00ty, Nah. With binary, you can lose one hex digit AND the max year would be 2047 (11 bits year, 4 bits month, 5 bits day). What's not to like about hex anyway?
Algaroth, Wouldn’t it just start over when it hit the max? Kinda like Ghandi being so peaceful he becomes a genocidal nutcase in Civilization?
r00ty, Yes, although isn't that an urban legend? Pretty sure I read that it was.
Algaroth, It was acknowledged as a bug by a dev. The value went from 0 to 255 and then started over. So 256 becomes 0. It’s basically a feature now.
r00ty, (edited ) What I read was that it never happened in the old versions and it wasn't a bug in civ5, in that, it was a nod to the legend. But apparently Sid Meier said it didn't happen in the original games.
EDIT: Here you go https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_Gandhi
Algaroth, Thing is, it did happen in the earlier games and I doubt Sid programmed all the games himself. They just put his sexy face on them like the Nintendo Quality Control stamp.
darq, Yeah but half the time is actually: EYY/MM/DD. Like this year is 令5/MM/DD.
And some years have two values, 2019 was both 平31, from 01/01 until 04/30, then 令1 from 05/01 onwards.
MisterFrog, Wat? Like their alphabet, do the Japanese have some double system?
China does this normally. Either YYYY.MM.DD OR YYYY年MM月DD日
darq, Yes, they have two date systems in common use. It's only the year that changes though. And there's no way to confuse the two, usually. If you write "2023" instead of "令5" it's pretty obvious. I suppose there is a potential for confusion if one just writes a two-digit year though.
kplaceholder, Is the kanji the name of the period the year belongs to or something? That looks interesting. Where can I find out more?
sanpo,
darq, Yup, it's a single character from the name of the era, and the era changes every time the emperor does.
praise_idleness, Whenever their Emperor changes, the year starts with a new name(年号, which translates to name of year(s)). This time it’s 令和(reiwa). Before that it was 平成(heisei). It is very commonly used.
bappity, YY/MM/DD SUPREMACY
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