There is a lot I could do from that point onward, that would make $10M look like spare change. Like investing in Apple, or working with Tim Berners-Lee to more effectively launch an Internet that could better resist corporatization and enshittification.
Have you any ideas how enshittification can be prevented without preventing Slashdot and Reddit? Like you can’t make a non commercial rule without making a more barren internet. Maybe the best you could do is get a Lemmy-like thing up and open source before Reddit could emerge
Ten million USD in 2024 is more than enough for me and my family to live out comfortable lives, to be honest. I’d just take that, live off the interest. It will present its own problems, of course, but I’m sure I can figure those out.
Going back in time with any specific goal or intent (like making lots more money than ten million dollars by 2024) is almost certainly going to end up being its own kind of hell in this situation and especially so when there’s no guarantee that I’ll actually be successful in that pursuit. No guarantee that I’d arrive at the new 2024 with more than ten million dollars, no guarantee I’d be able to “fix” anything without causing worse problems for myself and others, no guarantee that I’d get here alive again, sounds like quite a bit of a risk.
Plus, once I go back to age 6 and start making different decisions, a different future will necessarily emerge. Think about it this way, in order to not change the future (until you’re at a point where you can reasonably execute a plan to reach your goals), you’d have to make exactly the same decisions you did when you were 6. Pretty much nobody has that kind of memory/recall, so it would literally come down to sheer luck. And the further along in time things progress, as you make more and more different decisions than you did originally, the more uncertainty it would introduce to the new future. Eventually, you may even find that you basically have no more ability to recall/predict the future than you would have otherwise.
So if you’re in it for the money, just take the guaranteed money.
Sure all that’s theoretically possible, but realistically no one reading this post is influencing global events on any significant scale. Especially if you’re just doing normal kid stuff. A random kid ordering spaghetti instead of chicken nuggets is meaningless in the grand scheme of things. The same goes for just about any choice you’d likely be presented with.
realistically no one reading this post is influencing global events on any significant scale.
I’m not really sure where influencing global events comes into play with my prior comment, but I agree with you. However, when I posted my comment, I really mostly only saw people discussing relative and personal changes they’d make, so I’m also sort of thinking that global events are mostly irrelevant.
Especially if you’re just doing normal kid stuff. A random kid ordering spaghetti instead of chicken nuggets is meaningless in the grand scheme of things. The same goes for just about any choice you’d likely be presented with.
If you’re focused on the ramifications of any one specific choice, then I feel like you’re missing the forest for the tree (to coopt a popular idiom).
Every choice you make and everything you do differently will change things in some way, even if only to an imperceptible degree. From the moment you arrive back at your 6 year old self, you will constantly be making different decisions and doing things differently, whether you want to or not. The cumulative effects of these minute changes over time will make things increasingly more unpredictable and the new timeline and old timeline will necessarily diverge.
Then consider that some things in life are literally a cumulation of everything that you’ve done and everything that happened to you up to that point. Even small changes will have an impact. For instance, think of someone with biological children who goes back in time. The children they end up the second time around will be completely different people because of how random the process is that leads to two specific gametes being involved in the fertilization process. Literally eating spaghetti as a 6 year old could affect the outcome there, let alone the millions/billions/trillions of different actions that person would make over the decade(s) leading up to their child/childrens’ conception. Perhaps having completely different kids is still inconsequential, but that’s literally just one example, so I wouldn’t get too hung up on the specifics.
I don’t think many of us are significant enough to change anything, at least until we time travel with intent to make enough money to fix some of the problems of now
Taking them in the best order will be hard since the blue pill or its 10M would be left in the old timeline - or if there’s only one timeline, left in the lost future
You could take the blue pill and live it up for however long, try not to die suddenly, then take the red pill. That sounds risky to me
Assuming that the red pill lets me revert to a 6YO (thus preserving my knowledge), and not time traveling back to when I was 6, I might be tempted to do a lot of unethical stuff to make a ton of money, provide for my family, convert the remaining assets to BTC, memorize the wallet details, then take the red pill. As a 6YO, the government can’t hold me responsible for my adult conduct.
If it’s a time travel situation, there’s no contest. Red pill after studying the history of inventions. Start out by inventing the Pet Rock (near zero initial investment), reinvest in the fidget spinner, Pokemon, D&D, and writing the scripts to all the blockbuster movies. Provide technical details to the right industries for a royalty. Invest heavily in the creation of the Internet, then start Facebook, Google, and Amazon, bypass the PC and jump straight to smartphones. I’d be the patent king of the world.
With the trillions of dollars, I’d heavily influence politics. I’d fully fund the campaigns of moderates, institute free Internet-based accredited college, set up work training programs to support industries I intentionally locate in depressed areas, and make most of my business non-profit. And maybe, just maybe, avoid the cesspool we have today.
Yes, you could memorize an almanac ala “Back to the Future”. But sporting event outcomes are often dictated by random events that may or may not happen. Your best bet is to build on your own efforts based on generalized trends.
Actually managing to sell that many coins would be pretty difficult. I remember exchanges crashing on the day it peaked as everyone was trying to sell. It’d still be way to make a lot of money though.
Yeah that’s very true… Heck like you said that’s a lot of money… You could.have started selling 100s at a time for much lower years prior… it would have been easier, 100 a day of Bitcoin being sold would raise flags and you’d still make absolute stupid money.
But you can do it better the second time. Also you can be rich if when you turn 18 you invest in things you know succeed like Apple, Microsoft, amazon… granted I dunno how young you are, but I’d be going back to the early 90s, and could invest in stuff in the early 2000s
It would be so creepy trying for the same partner. So much of relationship building is learning about each other and you’ll never be surprised by their side of those conversations
I think between being a cute kid and BEGGING my dad who likes to gamble to invest EVERYTHING on Yahoo! From 1994 until the pets.com Superbowl commercial ad aired, and then just hardlined him into selling, he’s probably be able to cut me 10 mil.
Let alone that Id be saying “Microsoft! Coca Cola! Amazon! Apple! Oracle! Pfizer! Johnson & Johnson! Berkshire Hathaway! Wal Mart! And in war years, Raytheon and Lockheed Martin! Intel! Amd! Nvidia!” The whole time.
I’d be a fucking billionaire. Straight up. It would t be gambling, it would be a free money glitch.
Timing Bitcoin right?? Doge?? Get outta here. I’d have more money than anyone on earth.
If I could redo the life I was given with all my current knowledge, 10M would be like the average size of a charity donation or a gift that I would be giving.
The problem with betting on illiquid securities is that it would guarantee a change in that securities future. I’d probably stick with a big ocean of money to invest in like blue chip stocks because you personally aren’t going to change the market and if you have foreknowledge you can still make billions.
For something like trying to turn 300k into 25T on Bitcoin, yes, absolutely.
You could 100% become a trillionaire without significantly affecting market positions, though, even with just general knowledge and ~50 $100-$10,000 investments.
A six year old that can predict major events? Besides. Just wait and invest in Bitcoin yourself or Google, Apple or MS in college depending on your age. The latter isn’t as big of a jump but easily many multiples.
I’d take the $10 mil. Childhood seems like it would be a lot less fun if I had to go through it again but now with the jaded mind of a middle aged man.
I can for sure find a way to have fun with ten million dollars though 😉
10 mil is definitely easier, but if you memorized important global events and stock market crashes or explosions you could potentially build an empire. 10 mil would be chump change at that point. You could potentially maneuver yourself into positions of extreme power and help to shape the world, possibly change it for the better in the process.
True, but in this case I’d only be six years old. I’d be too young to really do anything about future events, and anyone who could do something probably wouldn’t listen to a kid warning then about politics and finance. Somehow I feel like by the time I’d be old enough to make any of that information useful I would have either forgotten a lot of it or ceased to care. I might choose differently if I was starting at age like 25 or 30 though
Well I would imagine my parents would pay attention to a 6 year old with the intellect and speech capability of a fully grown adult, especially once i tell them I can predict important future events and deliver a couple examples. Then I could ask them to create a trust fund and make it invest according to my foreknowledge. 25 years later and it’s a global empire with controlling shares in all major corporations.
Gotta somehow get seed money. Even investing your allowance would only get you a couple of thousand. You’re investing doesn’t really pay off until you’re old enough and rich enough to put real money in the game.
See my other comment on this. I’m fairly sure I could get my parents to listen, whom would then do the investing for me, with a lot more than just an allowance (kids can’t invest anyway).
but if you memorized important global events and stock market crashes or explosions you could potentially build an empire.
That is the thing when these kinds of topics appear, I totally would commit the same mistakes all over again, hence a boring childhood (I still think I’d go back though).
Yeah my childhood sucked, and knowing I’d have another 12 years of abuse with nobody taking me seriously because I’m a kid? No thanks. I could put $10mil to good use right now.
I’m really sorry to hear that you had to go through that, and you can tell me to fuck right off if you don’t want to think about it, but you got me wondering.
Do you think if you went back, you could use what you know today to prevent/avoid it and see how that changes your life?
I was gonna say the same. If I had to go back the only change I would make is avoiding the cops, school councilors, relatives, and judges I thought I could trust. Every attempt we made to get away from our mom made the beatings worse.
Thanks for sharing. I never went through anything like that, and it really says a lot that even with an adult mind, you wouldn’t know what you could do or want to risk trying. Hope you’re doing well now.
Might be different because my abuse was psychological and covert sexual rather than physical. But for me, the inner boundaries I’ve learned through therapy would make a world of a difference.
My parents weren’t monsters, they were flawed people doing what they thought was best… If I could go back and clearly assert myself and my needs? Especially with what I know now?
I’d take that deal.
Not too mention, I’m a programmer. I know every major advancement we’ve made in the past decades…If I designed a language in the early 00’s, I would be worshipped by all programmers. I could’ve made Uber when the iphone launched, and never took a dime in investments. I’d also jump forward AI tech by a couple decades - I could make the world unrecognizable. I’d be a household name, although I’d probably use a pseudonym
Plus, all of my friends would effectively be dead if I took the red pill.
My 30 year-old mind is not going to be able to get along with my friends when they were also six, and no grownups are going to want to be friends with me as a six year-old, besides pedophiles.
It’d be a very lonely few decades, and no amount of stock exchange billions are worth that for me.
My exact thoughts. Give me this choice at 19 or 20, sure I’ll restart. Now though, the money would just be nice to provide security to the most valuable thing - my girls.
Any point in time before my body broke down and a chance to not get through the troubles I had in my twenties? The ability to build neuronal structures like a child instead of learning anew profession in my thirties? Hell, I’m not gonna say no to that.
Exactly, if you make changes to things you wish you’d done differently, you could drastically alter your life enough to where you’d be in unknown territory rather quickly.
Sure you’d still have the “dump savings into Bitcoin, sell in September 2020” thing that would make you richer than the blue pill ever could, but the mistakes we make are the biggest reason to relive the past and once you alter those you’d quicky change the course of your life.
400 iq play is getting to the red pill multiple times and then taking the blue pill once you’re satisfied with your path. Catch me on NG+10 taking the blue pill
Taking the red pill doesn’t guarantee you’d end up with the same opportunity. If I knew I would be able to return to the same moment where I could take the pill again I’d obviously do that, but probability is slim.
There’s no way you could follow the same path. There are too many narrow chances. I would start again just for the chance to not fuck up my health for 40 years. I feel like the cost would be many of my friends
Let’s say I was 40, no fucking way would I reset and reset and reset.
I assume that you have to reach the same age you first got the pills at. So just 3 resets would be 160 years (+ around 40 more if you stop resetting and die at the average age of death in western countries)
Personally that sounds like torture. Sure groundhog day was fun the first few times but 160 years? No thanks.
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