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Ranvier, (edited ) in We don't accept insurance

Unfortunately doctors have no magic fixes for back pain related to muscular strains or degenerative disease/arthritis, which is most back pain. Treatments are basically physical therapy and nsaid medications. Surgery for low back pain from degenerative disease/arthritis alone has poor evidence with most randomized trials suggesting no difference. Even opiates fail to show any superiority over nsaids (like ibuprofen or naproxen) for back pain. Not saying don’t see your doctor about bad persistent back pain, there’s always edge cases or bizarre causes that may need addressing. But unfortunately no magic bullet for the vast majority of typical low back pain.

Review on surgery indications in back pain ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10107811/

Randomized trial of opioid and nsiads in back pain, hip pain, and knee pain from degenerative disease/arthritis pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29509867/

Also, I know it’s a meme, but the billing code doctors use for even the most complicated of visits going over an hour and involving multiple potentially life threatening conditions or treatments isn’t anywhere close to $3000. Let alone a visit for routine back pain which wouldn’t qualify for anything like the highest billing codes.

monsieur_jean,

Agreed. I'm currently trying to fix my shoulders. Turns out the fix to "some of your muscles are too powerful and some aren't enough" is not an easy one and consists mostly in slowly and painfully correcting your posture with targeted exercises. Daily. For months.

I'm almost to the point where I say fuck it, I'll just train through pain and hopefully it will fix itself at some point. It worked for my tennis elbow after all... XD

the_post_of_tom_joad,

Also, I know it’s a meme, but

Im gently chiding you, i promise, but if you know, then why?

Ranvier, (edited )

People say the content of the meme in all seriousness all the time too is mainly why, thinking the doctor is responsible for that cost. I didn’t want it to become an attack on OP though, not my intent. And maybe my comments will encourage more wholesome memes about evil health care administrators and insurance company execs instead, the true enemy, haha.

the_post_of_tom_joad,

Thanks for explaining, i was truly just curious. See ya!

jackoneill,

If the doctor needs an mri and your insurance won’t cover the mri $3k isn’t far off. I’ve been in that position before. Had to give the radiology folks $500 down payment and then let them send the rest to collections to get an mri so my doctor could ultimately not to jack shit to help me, but her still charged me too. Fuck America.

Ranvier, (edited )

That’s true! But the mri costs are billed by the facility and hospital and generally have nothing to do with the doctor. Doubly the insurance and hospitals play games with each other, so the billed amounts end up being way more if not paying with insurance. I get bugged by memes and statements suggesting that doctors are the driver of the cost when it’s actually insurance companies, health care facilities, hospitals, medical equipment companies, and pharmaceuticals that are primarily driving all of this. Your doctor probably wanted to be sure there was nothing dangerous or abnormal. If it only showed arthritis there’s usually not much more that can be done besides pt and nsaids. Even the radiologist fee is a small part of the actual mri charge. Doctors just want to get people the tests and treatments that are indicated, but are the person people actually interact with so tend to take all the blame. I agree with you our health system is a mess.

DannyMac, in Early bird
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Luckily, my state understood this and our school hours were like 8-8:30am to 3pm. Still kinda early, but way less of a kick in the teeth as states that make their kids come in at 7am and out at 2pm.

Send_me_nude_girls, in Then I'll avoid opening the app

Hold down on it and go to notification settings and turn them off.

EmperorHenry, in Japan is living in the future that the 1990s dreamed of.
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Cash is better than digital currency. And gold, silver and copper coins are better than any other currency.

tdawg, in She's a quick study

I mean it’s pretty easy to tell if someone’s on the spectrum after you talk with them

ornery_chemist,

Ah, so I’ll never be found out, then.

rem26_art, in Hes very sophisticated
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who needs all these fancy tools when you've got this thing with 2 jaws and a ton of clamping force? Snap-On should be worried

WashedOver, in Doctors hate this one trick!
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I wonder if it comes in wintergreen flavour?

datelmd5sum, in Too good to be true

When the sun starts coming up, but you know that it doesn’t come up until the middle of January you know you’re fucked.

Frozengyro,

But not for long

LEDZeppelin, in Hes very sophisticated

It will take a while

ReginaPhalange,

But how can you differ? It can easilly be done later…

Exusia,
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He gets paid for the job, not by the hour

DavidGarcia, in Oh, is that so?
Whisper06, in Too good to be true

5:37 every day like clockwork, doesn’t matter what time I go to bed. My alarm is at 6

shalafi, in Early bird

Beginning later is a non-starter. Parents gotta get to work.

Could work for high school, but some of the younger ones aren’t mature enough or raised independently enough, so there’s that.

snooggums,
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Maybe society could prioritize children over capitalism?

devfuuu,

That’s insane talk, you could be burned at the central square.

Swedneck,
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you mean the parking lot of the central square plaza park shopping centre?

someguy3,

I don’t get this, I was always responsible to get myself up and to school. I can’t imagine kids not being able to do this.

shalafi,

And I walked or biked to my elementary school every day in the 70’s. Many kids are raised very differently now, hence my comment.

I’m working to make my small children independent, their mother, my-ex wife, is working to keep them dependent.

Swedneck,
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is this an americabrained comment? here in sweden, and this is not some urbanist paradise, kids can absolutely get to school on their own, whether that be walking biking or taking public transport.

it’s in fact bog standard for kids to take the bus to school in my town, to the point that you really want to avoid their travel times because buses will be jam packed with annoying children.

shalafi,

Yep, America all right. Couple of things:

  • In some states it’s illegal to leave children of a certain age unsupervised. I think it’s 11 and below here? People do it anyway and no one’s looking to prosecute, but it’s a thing.
  • I can’t speak for every municipality in America, but the elementary schools around here do not allow kids to walk or bike to school. Either that, or every single parent, no exceptions, disallows it, because I’ve never seen a child that young coming into or leaving the school on their own. FFS, when I used to pick up my stepson, same car every day, the teacher had to put their hand on the roof and look me in the eye through a rolled-down window. That was literally the rule.

So like I said, “some of the younger ones aren’t mature enough or raised independently enough”. It sucks, but it’s true.

I have an 8 and 10-yo. They love my house because I allow them freedom. We went to a huge camping place to get married this weekend, local outfitter sort of thing. I gave them some instructions and warnings, cut them loose. Their helicopter mom would shit her pants if she knew they walked all over the woods alone.

(And of course we got the usual comment below crying about capitalism. I’m not sure if these people expect that no one works for a living, or they don’t do it on a coordinated schedule, or what.)

YeetPics,
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So the sleepy teens should move to Sweden, problem solved!

scottywh,

First off, the meme is specifically about high schoolers

Second, parents needing to be at work doesn’t seem to be an issue in summer… They’ll figure it out.

TheAlbatross, in Where's my cooking show already?

Buy blocks of hot pot seasoning to keep in the freezer and cut off a small portion to taste to throw in there for a major flavor upgrade.

cheesymoonshadow,
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Ooh, this sounds like a game-changer.

LittleTransPunk, in Help what do I do next
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This is a constant conundrum for me. Being asexual isn’t always clearly communicated.

NaoPb, in Japan is living in the future that the 1990s dreamed of.

I like cash and fax machines. But floppy disks need to be retired. And paper filing is incredibly slow compared to digital databases.

Delphia,

Paper filing is good, digital filing with proper backups is good.

At my job for a staff evaluation I have to fill out a paper checklist, scan it, then enter the information digitally, then print the digital one and file it in the employees file with the original checklist and then upload a pdf of the paper checklist AND the digital one…

Instead of just having the evaluation portal open on a tablet and doing it ONE TIME with a good backup system.

NaoPb, (edited )

Yes, I agree it’s good to have a backup system.

[edit] I mean having a paper filing system as backup.

Delphia,

I could just print out the digital version and archive that or submit the digital and file the paper checklist.

I dont need a digital copy of the paper and a paper copy of the digital at the same time. Especially when they get filed/archived together.

NaoPb,

Fair point.

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