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RubberElectrons, in It's all downhill from here
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Yoooo 😂 that is spot on!!!

darq, in Japan is living in the future that the 1990s dreamed of.
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Japan has been in the year 2000 for the past 50 years.

Floshie,

Not the first time I see this, still makes me laugh

Default_Defect, in He's coming to town
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I’m not out at the coast, but we can have a few laughs anyway.

MrJameGumb, in Japan is living in the future that the 1990s dreamed of.
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People still use fax machines? I wouldn’t even know where to look for a fax machine these days! Is Kinkos still a thing? I think that’s where I had to go the last time I faxed something 20 years ago lol

The_Picard_Maneuver,
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Healthcare in the US still relies on a surprising amount of faxing.

can,

Prescriptions need to be faxed where I’m from.

RootBeerGuy,
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Hello, fax machine? This is Germany!

QuinceDaPence,

Most copiers can have a fax card added. And most businesses that need a fax machine don't even do that. They have their VoIP phone service set up a virtual fax machine. If it even needs a physical part it's probably a little black box in a network closet, but now most don't even do that.

Real fun thing, did you know faxed advertisements were and are still a thing? At work we get like 3 random ads each day that come out of the machine.

Cracks_InTheWalls, (edited )
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When I have to check the efax and see these, I almost always save the clipart for use in inter-office memes before deleting them.

I’m pretty sure that’s the most engagement these things have got in the past 20 years.

MedicPigBabySaver,

You can actual use the Internet to send a fax to a standard fax machine. There are websites for that.

psud,

The Australian government used faxes well into the 2000s, I think the last three faxes I sent though were through my modem

thehatfox,
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The UK National Health Service (NHS) still loves fax machines. There was supposed to be a plan to phase them all out by 2020 but it never happened.

They are still somewhat common in some B2B sectors here too, although most businesses have migrated to e-fax systems now.

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  • TWeaK,

    And yet they never picked up SMS messages, they just used email on their phones all the while.

    tiredofsametab,

    Old SMS had some pretty crappy character limits so they went with the option that didn't is basically how I see it. Now, LINE is king. I've only used text with like two people ever in Japan.

    TWeaK,

    Old SMS was free though, it used the spare bits in a regular phone call datastream. Meanwhile, the network provider charged you 10p a pop, and far more for any kind of data.

    tiredofsametab,

    I don't know what the prices here in Japan were without looking it up. I'll try to remember to ask my wife when she gets home.

    nuke, in Before long, it'll be all grill and drivers won't be able to see which direction they're going.

    Needs more lights so I can blind the crap out of everyone in front of me

    marcos, in Before long, it'll be all grill and drivers won't be able to see which direction they're going.

    You can see the sky, and the sky is beautiful. Why would you care about an ugly road or NSFL gore in front of your car?

    MentalEdge, (edited )
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    Upgrade to the premium suspension option! You already can’t see the corpses, but with airsuspend+ you won’t feel them either! It’s like you’re not even committing the murder!

    /S

    mondoman712, in Before long, it'll be all grill and drivers won't be able to see which direction they're going.
    Gork, in Japan is living in the future that the 1990s dreamed of.

    They have those cool blue plastic trays with rubber mats that you put your money in though. And they’re everywhere.

    KrokanteBamischijf, (edited ) in Before long, it'll be all grill and drivers won't be able to see which direction they're going.

    Bold assumption that truck drivers pay attention to where they’re going in the first place.

    Might not make much of a difference, you know?

    SomeKindaName, in Japan is living in the future that the 1990s dreamed of.

    Most of those negatives sound fine to me.

    cm0002,

    …how? The only acceptable one (Even though I personally don’t like it) is cash.

    Fax sucks ass and should have been put in the grave LONG ago, Flash drives are superior to Floppy in every way and fuck paper filing, digitized paperwork is far superior.

    768,

    Floppy drives are the brontosaurus among these, excusive paper filing sucks too, but cash society and fax telecom is not that bad.

    SuckMyWang,

    I mean these things can’t be that bad, Japan compete well on the world stage so whatever they’re doing is working fine. Can it be improved, probably. Does it need to be? Not yet

    MeanEYE,
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    If people actually upgraded from FAX, I would have completely agreed. What we have today is an abomination which doesn’t work. Not even a week ago I had an issue with some paperwork where tax office required me to fill some form in PDF, then print it, then sign it, scan it and send it to them. I have a phone with a pen, so I did all of that and skipped few steps. Signed the document on screen. No no no no no. They didn’t want that. They want my signature on paper which I never have to send them but my signature signed through screen is not good enough.

    FAX is basically all of this with fewer steps and I can easily see why they wouldn’t want to move away from it. It it works, don’t fix it mentality. Luckily this trend is slowly going away, but damn. Not to mention same IRS office required me to generate a certificate which I can use to digitally sign documents. But I couldn’t do this either, since they accept that only on some documents. A mystery.

    As far as floppy disks are concerned, this is mainly for industrial machines. They are still a huge user. Those machines are not replaced every 2 years as they are more robust and made to last. So having a machine older than 30 years still working in industry is nothing new and considering upgrade costs literally millions, it’s simply not worth paying that much money to upgrade to USB.

    st3ph3n,
    @st3ph3n@kbin.social avatar

    Lots of those floppy drives in industrial and lab applications (as well as the retro computing enthusiast space) are being replaced by things like GoTek devices, which are essentially floppy emulators with flash memory.

    MeanEYE,
    @MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

    In some places, yes. But many are still not doing the upgrade as it would require technical person to do so, provide tech support, etc. All of that costs money. Whole industry is becoming very specialized place. Siemens still sells laptops with DB9 and other serial connectors just so you can access and program PLCs. And new USB based adapters to serial simply don’t work. Sometimes they do, but most of the time they have issues with these specialized devices.

    SomeKindaName, (edited )
    • We use fax in the USA more than you’d think. I’d call that a wash.
    • Paper in your filing cabinet will never be messed with by a ransomware attack. Ransomware attacks seem to happen to businesses and hospitals just about daily here. I’m actually watching a news story on a hospital ransomware attack as I write this.

    Floppy drives? Yeesh that one is a bit weird.

    LemmyNameMyself,
    @LemmyNameMyself@lemmy.world avatar

    Yeah, like what’s wrong with cash?

    Kusimulkku,

    Annoying to deal with

    idunnololz,
    @idunnololz@lemmy.world avatar

    I have a really slim wallet, which is only possible because I never have to use cash. Also cash is dirty. I can wash my phone once a week to keep it clean but I can’t do that with cash (well I can but what’s the point, and I’ll get accused of money laundering /j). It’s inefficient since you have to count your coins and bills and the cashier needs to do the same and then you have to check if you got the right change. You can also misplace cash, especially coins.

    Meanwhile I haven’t had to handle cash for like 6 years now except for extremely rare circumstances and it just feels way better.

    Wrench,

    It’s not even accurate anymore. Cards are accepted in a lot of places.

    It was absolutely true 10 years ago, though. It’s inconvenient always needing to think about how much cash you need to bring, and having a pocket full of change because it’s significant denominations.

    Also, their banks are only open on weekdays and close super early. Bank lines were (are?) massive because everyone had to go at the same time due to work hours.

    TimewornTraveler,

    America doesn’t really have a functional system for this yet either. It’s a lot easier to just tap your phone on a brick and be done with it, but currently the tap method is pretty hit or miss. And bank transfers are atrocious - why do we pay venmo to do something that Korean banks just straight up do for everyone? In Korea you can just give someone your deposit number and with a couple buttons you send money easily/instantly.

    olicvb,
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    You don’t even have to go that far, Canada has interac e-transfers where you can send money by email. Directly accessible through the standard bank app/site. I haven’t handled cash in years

    TWeaK,

    Ew email does not sound like the place for cash transactions.

    But yeah, most countries these days have instant bank transfers. The US is ancient when it comes to payments, “cashing your payslip” isn’t a thing in much of the rest of the world.

    eating3645,

    They likely mean their bank uses email as an identifier. So the bank asks you the registered email you’d like to send money to. Not that you’re emailing cash or something like that.

    Similar to zelle, a third party that fills the gap.

    idunnololz,
    @idunnololz@lemmy.world avatar

    The email is like an id for your account. You can use your phone number. AFAIK if you link it email or phone number to your bank and someone sends you money to that email or phone number it doesn’t actually text or email you. The money will be directly deposited into your account.

    scottyjoe9,

    In Australia you can send money via phone number or email (called payid) but it’s not sent in an email or SMS, it’s just that your number/email address is used as a unique identifier linked to your bank account. When someone pays you via either of those, the money gets directed into that account instantly.

    And yes, being paid directly into your bank account is standard here and I would say really the only option for most jobs. I’m 35 and have never had a job that doesn’t pay you direct to your account.

    psud,

    In Australia you can send money bank to bank for free, with practically instant transfers (though large amounts and first transfers from you to someone get a 24hr hold)

    And you can use the person’s phone number as the transaction target (instead of bank branch number and account number)

    It’s pretty nice, good for small business too, especially trades

    ASeriesOfPoorChoices,

    Re: Australia: be aware that all normal bank to bank transfers are still min 1 working day transfer. Its FAST and Osko which bypass that with their own new network (up to $1000).

    Not every bank is with Osko or FAST, and some are with one and not the other. Though I think FAST is fading away with Osko being dominant.

    Re: phone number: or email address! It’s great, especially if you have your own domain name. You can make different PayID email addresses for each account you have if you want.

    psud,

    Me and my mate have sent money to each other for kitty balancing on fishing trips, this year (about an hour ago) he sent me his share (high hundreds) and it was instant

    We don’t use phone number since we have had each other’s bank details for ages

    ASeriesOfPoorChoices,

    Osko/FAST: are fast BSB/Acct# transfers.

    PayID: is an easy way to reference a BSB/Acct#.

    Together, they are fast and easy, but they are not the same thing and are not required for one to be used to use the other.

    Also, “high hundreds” is less than $1000 :-P

    Rolando,

    I don’t know much about Korea. Do they have laws limiting how much you can be tracked and marketed to?

    Vilian, (edited )

    Same in Brazil, i can send i think 10k to anyone in my contact using PIX that was created by the goverment and is opensource, i can pay with it too, there is other way too, but PIX is the easier, just need a internet connection

    you can send using ramdom nunber, cellphone number, CPF, qr code, email, just need to configure the key that you want in you bank or bank app, and it just work without fees

    lemmy___user,

    Theoretically the situation with bank to bank money transfers should be improving - the replacement for the ancient, slow ACH system went live a few months ago. Of course it will likely take several centuries for a critical mass of banks to support it, but there has been some progress at least.

    MonkeMischief,

    My bank still sends me a text message and has no other means of 2FA options.

    You’d think they’d be way more up to date on this “digital security practices” stuff. :|

    darq,
    @darq@kbin.social avatar

    Yeah honestly living there for a while, I came around a bit on doing things by paper.

    It's slower, certainly. But the Japanese are scary efficient at it, and there is a lot of infrastructure to support it.

    And in the case where things go wrong or are confusing, at least you can take the forms and actually go and talk to someone, rather than staring at a computer screen that offers nothing.

    redditReallySucks, in Help what do I do next
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    Wake up /s

    UndercoverUlrikHD, in Night vs Morning people
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    How else am I supposed to signal to the night owls that it’s time to hit the bed before they got to wake up in 2 hours?

    uis,
    @uis@lemmy.world avatar

    before they got to wake up in 2 hours?

    I wonder why

    Retrograde,
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    😂

    TehBamski, in Before long, it'll be all grill and drivers won't be able to see which direction they're going.
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    Hedup, in He's coming to town

    I actually see that becoming the new cookies and milk in 100 years.

    Gordon, in Before long, it'll be all grill and drivers won't be able to see which direction they're going.
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