ObviouslyNotBanana, 2070 seems like a stretch.
SkyezOpen, I saw a truck like this last week. The hood must’ve been over 5ft high. Absolutely ridiculous.
ObviouslyNotBanana, A real stretched grill, so to speak.
JoShmoe, I refuse to believe that these vehicles are not already plaguing our roads.
kubica, Lights would be higher to blind as many people as possible.
constnt, (edited ) There is a law in the US that says trucks must meet a certain Miles per gallon fuel economy. But there is a loop hole that says trucks over a certain size are not included in that law. So as long as the trucks are ridiculously big they don’t need to worry about their fuel economy.
Edit: it’s the CAFE law.
The_Picard_Maneuver, This seems counterintuitive
postmateDumbass, Welcome to the USA of today.
ObviouslyNotBanana, Makes money without having to make effort to better their cars, seems very intuitive.
constnt, Because car companies send lobbyists to Congress and pay to influence bills.
Olgratin_Magmatoe, *bribe
It’s legalized bribery.
seaQueue, It’s called lobbying if it occurs in the registered geographic region of Washington DC, everywhere else it’s sparkling bribery.
DavidGarcia, because they didn’t want to piss off the blue-collar demographic, they’re a huge voting block and drive trucks for work.
that’s politics for you. creating nonsensical laws that aren’t made to fix problems, but only to curry favor, be that with voters, lobbyists, whatever
minibyte, drive trucks for work.
That’s a bold assumption.
baldingpudenda, Should be to work. I work in an office and about 25% drive trucks to work. Not one of then tow, off road or carry anything in the back, but will definitely pay 125k thanks to loans on their big boy diesel truck.
afraid_of_zombies, One of the laziest shop steward’s nephew I have ever dealt with had one of those trucks. You telling me a guy like that is hauling lumber on the weekends?
stinerman, Yes. A lot of the people who drive trucks do so because “I’m a big boy! Listen to me make lots of noise in my big lifted truck! Vroom Vroom!!”
If people are actually using it for a small business or whatever, sure, I’ll live, but most of the people who buy them are just buying them because they want people to know their dicks are small.
SlopppyEngineer, and drive trucks for work.
Over here (in Europe) they just changed that. Reduced tariff is only for trucks registered to a company. Private persons pay full. It cut back on truck sales drastically.
AngryCommieKender, At the time the law was passed, the carve out was for work trucks which made a minority of the market. Possibly less than 10%, but they also put tariffs on the light trucks imported from Asia, and so now almost 30 years later we have the situation we’ve got now.
We need to revoke the tariffs on the light trucks for normal people.
Also make it so you have to have a business licence to buy them, and a CDL to drive these “work trucks”
Anticorp, Does anyone make light trucks anymore? Even Toyotas are 3x bigger than they used to be.
AngryCommieKender, Isuzu still has a light truck division, and the Asian market still has loads of smaller vehicles, we just need to get off this “tank obsession” here in the US
Obi, In Europe we have vans, they use barely more fuel than regular cars (at least until the really big ones) and can be used for just about any trade.
brygphilomena, (edited ) We also need to get rid of the chicken tax
afraid_of_zombies, Someone must be. Every time I am in Asia I see mini pickups. Would love to have one for my work.
Anticorp, I looked everywhere for a truck of normal size when I was truck shopping. Midsized trucks are bigger now than full sized trucks were when I was younger. The only way to get a small one in the USA is to buy something that’s old.
brygphilomena, Those damn chickens ruining light truck imports.
TehBamski, Link or source?
constnt, …cmu.edu/…/WS-FootprintFuelEconomy-EP.pdf?shem=ss…
…umich.edu/…/cafe-standards-could-mean-bigger-car…
…wikipedia.org/…/Corporate_average_fuel_economy
thetruthaboutcars.com/…/how-cafe-killed-compact-t…
transportpolicy.net/…/us-light-duty-fuel-economy-…
The footprint-based system means that selling more small vehicles does not necessarily help manufacturers meet the standards. Smaller vehicles are subject to more stringent requirements, such that a manufacturer of smaller vehicles has a lower CO2 standard while a manufacturer of larger vehicles has a higher CO2 standard. Footprint systems encourage improvements in efficiency, regardless of vehicles size, and have relatively little impact on vehicle size mix. Unlike a weight-based standard, a footprint-based standard encourages use of lightweight materials while maintaining the vehicle size, without subjecting the manufacturers to a higher CO2 requirement.
MeatsOfRage, “your vehicle needs to be efficient by law, unless your vehicle is super inefficient then no worries there big guy”
afraid_of_zombies, It won’t stop until we treat anything with the title “truck” as a real truck. CDL and weightstations.
Soggy, I’m fully in favor of tiered and more rigorous licensing. Basic license should only clear you to drive a small, low-power sedan/wagon/hatchback. Vast majority of people won’t ever need more than that.
deo, (edited ) holy hell. that’s just idiotic. who has that much money to blow on gas?
edit: i saw a post recently saying it costs some truck owner $80 to drive to and from work. i did the math and estimated 8 mpg, so i thought they were exaggerating. but nope, my estimate was pretty damn close to reality, and that’s an absurd amount of money to just throw away every day
Gork, Are you truly an American if you don’t own one of these for the express purposes of turning it on its side and grilling steaks on it?
Rocketpoweredgorilla, “But ma airflow!” they’ll counter, seemingly oblivous to the fact that even the t-600 Kenworths have a smaller grill and work just fine.
https://carsbase.com/photo/Kenworth-T600_mp653_pic_50717.jpg
CADmonkey, Its also easier to see someone standing in front of that KW than in front of a 2023 Silverado.
Rocketpoweredgorilla, Yup, I’ve driven kenworths since the mid 90’s, never once ran over anything I didn’t intend to. Visibility is pretty good in those things.
psivchaz, Okay but what did you intend to run over?
instamat, Those motherfuckers had it coming!
youRFate, There was a post recently where they figured out that you have better forward visibility in an Abrams tank than in several modern suvs and trucks.
Sabre363, BMW started it
wrath_of_grunge, Dodge started the trend of making their pickup trucks be stupidly huge.
hOrni, It’ll have a canon. I’m sure very soon they’ll start mounting guns on the hood.
Blackout, Your going to want to get the extra strength windshield wipers with 200 p.s.i. washers to clear off the remains of humans.
Gordon, What’s old is new again
TehBamski,
KrokanteBamischijf, (edited ) Bold assumption that truck drivers pay attention to where they’re going in the first place.
Might not make much of a difference, you know?
mondoman712,
marcos, You can see the sky, and the sky is beautiful. Why would you care about an ugly road or NSFL gore in front of your car?
MentalEdge, (edited ) Upgrade to the premium suspension option! You already can’t see the corpses, but with airsuspend+ you won’t feel them either! It’s like you’re not even committing the murder!
/S
nuke, Needs more lights so I can blind the crap out of everyone in front of me
Buffaloaf, Toyota is right there with them
CADmonkey, They have this whole cheese grater thing going on.
QuinceDaPence, Before long, it'll be all grill
GM already did that with their trains a long time ago. In the picture below you are looking at the front of the train.
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