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feral_hedgehog, in IDF evidence so far falls well short of al-Shifa hospital being Hamas HQ
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:/

Drone footage of tunnel entrance on hospital grounds:
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Israeli hostages being led inside the hospital:
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More pictures of Hamas terrorists with hostages inside hospital:
idfanc.activetrail.biz/ANC191120236486845465465

Map of where hostages’ bodies were later recovered:
idfanc.activetrail.biz/ANC19112023684648516

But don’t let the truth detract from those fuzzy feelings of righteousness :)

SinAdjetivos,
  1. That looks like a pretty standard utility tunnel. The video conveniently stops at the “blast door” which isn’t actually weird because electricity is hella dangerous. I would be willing to bet the most dangerous thing found behind that door is a surge arrestor.
  2. The hostages being led inside the hospital isn’t great, but it looks to me like they needed medical attention. What would you prefer happen? If I were a hostage and needed medical attention I would much rather live in a world where the hospital cooperates with the “baddies” to provide that medical care and do the “recovery” later, wouldn’t you?
  3. Those videos show living hostages. If the goal is to recover the hostages then why is the IDF only recovering bodies?

Based on that evidence you provided I would offer the counter-narrative that it appears that Hamas is trying their best to keep the hostages alive while the IDF prefers them martyred.

Devi,

What are you seeing here? There’s a small shaft that looks a long way from the hospital, maybe a well, maybe a sewer, nothing to suggest it’s anything untoward. There’s some people walking through some buildings, then a map with writing on.

Where are you seeing evidence here? Where are you seeing any of the things you’re claiming?

millie, (edited ) in U.S. President Biden says "Gaza and the West Bank should be reunited under single government" and "extremist violence against Palestinians in the West Bank must stop"

I’m not sure whether it would be political suicide for Biden to criticize Israel going into an election, but he sure seems to think so.

I wonder if he’d have anything else to say if this were his second term rather than his first. Or like, if Trump were firmly in prison and disqualified from election.

CrimeDad, in U.S. President Biden says "Gaza and the West Bank should be reunited under single government" and "extremist violence against Palestinians in the West Bank must stop"

What a joke. I love how he uses the passive voice to describe IDF war crimes, but Hamas gets the active. They’re going to try and do regime change in Gaza, but Hamas is not the beginning or end of Palestinian armed resistance. What we really need is regime change in Israel.

As for Ukraine, I think that’s a lost cause and nothing Biden says convinces me otherwise. The enthusiasm for Israel just isn’t there for Ukraine in this piece.

lnxtx, in U.S. President Biden says "Gaza and the West Bank should be reunited under single government" and "extremist violence against Palestinians in the West Bank must stop"
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Let the people decide.

The Hamas “did not happen in a vacuum”.

jargoggles,

Netanyahu has gone on record saying he has helped prop Hamas up in order to sow division between Gaza and the West Bank.

Hamas is now a convenient excuse to further colonize Gaza. Israel knew about the 10/7 attack more than a week in advance.

fosforus, (edited )

Netanyahu has gone on record saying he has helped prop Hamas up in order to sow division between Gaza and the West Bank.

Do you have a source for this? I couldn’t find it, although this was pretty close: timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-…

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Zaktor,
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Drinvictus, in U.S. President Biden says "Gaza and the West Bank should be reunited under single government" and "extremist violence against Palestinians in the West Bank must stop"

Extremist violence must stop huh? You don’t say? Then how about you stop taking money from Zionists and we all stop funding this “extremist violence”

raccoona_nongrata,
@raccoona_nongrata@beehaw.org avatar

Joe Biden has described himself as a Zionist on multiple occasions. So the chances of him not taking the money are slim. As his buddy Netanyahu says, the suffocating new borns are just worthless collateral damage.

t3rmit3,

extremist violence against Palestinians in the West Bank must stop

He’s talking about settlers attacking Palestinians.

Kwakigra, in U.S. President Biden says "Gaza and the West Bank should be reunited under single government" and "extremist violence against Palestinians in the West Bank must stop"

Talk is cheap. Pull the plug.

tesseract, in Australian navy divers injured after sonar pulses detected from Chinese warship

Somebody should just blast a hole on one of these ships the next time they decide to be a douche.

tesseract, in New Delhi smog grows more intense as farm fires rage

I guess greed and the lack of empathy aren’t monopolies of billionaires.

Aidinthel, in Military lawyer David McBride pleads guilty to unlawfully sharing secret allegations of Australian war crimes

I was all set to call the guy a hero based on the headline, but apparently the reason he leaked the info was that he thought the war crimes were being investigated too much?

sqgl, (edited )

He is a hero

investigated too much

No. That is bs. Only the prosecution said that. The article notes it too if you read carefully but deliberately (IMO) gives you the wrong impression.

livus, in IDF evidence so far falls well short of al-Shifa hospital being Hamas HQ
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I'm guessing they won't find it in the UN school they just bombed either.

t3rmit3, (edited ) in IDF evidence so far falls well short of al-Shifa hospital being Hamas HQ

Israel is trying to pull a “if the glove doesn’t fit, you must acquit” sleight of hand here.

Even if it were a Hamas command center, that does not justify withholding food and medicine from the hospital.

Even if it were a Hamas command center, that does not justify conducting their brutal attacks on civilians elsewhere.

Even if it were a Hamas command center, that does not justify destroying the infrastructure that civilians require in order to survive.

They are going to make sure there is a command center there, because their entire narrative has become that if Hamas uses civilians as human shields (even if there is literally not enough space for civilians to go anywhere else anyways), then Israel is justified killing civilians.

That’s is false on its own, but more importantly, they are not only attempting to kill Hamas, they are also attempting to kill and displace large numbers of civilians, and we know this because their own government ministries and employees are putting together reports and doing news interviews about how they should displace Palestinians from Gaza.

They would not be making those reports and statements if they thought the government was against it; that would be career-ending. They feel comfortable making those reports and statements precisely because they know that their government is on board with that. They are getting people comfortable with hearing it, for when they actually do it.

Devi,

I saw them taking a BBC journalist in and pointing out a “Hamas Stash”, it was like one gun, some shoes, and a pile of blankets. If that’s the stuff you think you’re fighting against then you’re ok, calm down, stop sniping medical staff.

t3rmit3,

I loved/hated how it was like a “my little combatant” kit, with a gun, uniform, and snacks all packed in a little duffle bag.

Either it was Israel bringing those in for the photo op, or it was Hamas leaving those to make it look like Israel carried them in for a photo op.

Devi,

Look! there’s crackers! danger!!

anachronist, in Prominent settler leader pushes Netanyahu to rebuild Israeli homes in Gaza

This was quite literally always the plan according to leaked Israeli government documents.

middleeastmonitor.com/20231030-leaked-document-sh…

Scary_le_Poo, in Prominent settler leader pushes Netanyahu to rebuild Israeli homes in Gaza
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You may not realize it, but this is why Hamas was telling people to stay in their houses and not leave. Because this has happened before, this is not a new thing.

deegeese, in Prominent settler leader pushes Netanyahu to rebuild Israeli homes in Gaza

See, there’s the “ethnic cleansing” Israel wanted all along!

Oppress Palestinians, they fight back, so now you can bomb them and steal their homes.

Skelectus, in Australian navy divers injured after sonar pulses detected from Chinese warship
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Sonar is scary as hell.

baggins,
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Even worse if you’re a whale 😞

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