vlad76,
@vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

What’s wrong with “else”

NekkoDroid,
@NekkoDroid@programming.dev avatar

It’s not ifn’t

SpaceNoodle,

*it’sn’t

felbane,

I’dn’t’ve said it like that.

Scubus,

Perchance

NocturnalMorning,

^This

OP raises a valid point

Darkassassin07,
@Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca avatar

if(condition) {#block never used} else {#actually do a thing}

Vs

ifn’t(condition) {#actually do a thing}

Vs

if!(condition) {#actually do a thing}

MNByChoice,

Cannot start a statement with else. One can with ifn’t. There is a new thing where we don’t branch (which is a separate discussion).

Or am I missing the joke…

the_of_and_a_to,

I like “unless” in Ruby

JPDev,

unlessn’t

Goun,

I’m sorry, I hate the “unless” so much

NotSteve_,

At one of my first jobs, I was tasked to rewrite a bunch of legacy Perl scripts in Python and the unless lines always made me trip up. I don’t know why but it really messed with my mental flow when reading Perl code

marcos,

The Perl version of it is even greater!

EnderMB,

I haven’t written any Ruby for years, but I still praise it in every conversation I have regarding programming languages. It’s basically a much simpler Python, with some design ideas that are both beautiful and deeply strange.

OskarAxolotl,

Ruby was designed to evoke joy and they absolutely succeeded. Usually, programming is mostly a means to an end to me. But using Ruby just feels so amazing, it’s almost impossible to even describe to somebody who has never used it before.

AlmightySnoo, (edited )
@AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world avatar

reminds me of #ifndef instead of #if !defined(…)

OpenStars,
@OpenStars@startrek.website avatar

Please God let this be a humorous post that somehow does not also find a way to manage to come true…

lurch,

i assume “ifnot” wasn’t edgy enough and makes inferior noises on custom mechanical keyboards? /s

fl42v, (edited )

This has to be illegal. I mean, it’s basically suicide incitement (or whatever is the phrase for it)

xmunk,

Still not as good as whence

fartsparkles,

Is this a reference to something because I’d love to read it if you have a time to share.

xx3rawr,

Woah. I did a quick google and it’s not just a meme, but actually used in some major lang’s libraries.

jjjalljs,

This is one of those “modern Google/search sucks” moments because I couldn’t immediately find examples of it in a programming language.

xx3rawr,

I actually used DDG and most I’ve seen, they’re just used as arguments for functions notably in C and Python

LeFrog, (edited )
@LeFrog@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

It is used in ksh korn shell to see what executable responds to a command:

superuser.com/a/351995

Edit: Oh, what a rabbit hole: Why not use “which”? What to use then?

SubArcticTundra, (edited )
@SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml avatar

Legislation (which feels similar to programming languages sometimes) seems to have some keywords of its own. I remember seeing a lot of Whereas … and Having regard to ….

MagicShel,

Reduce exclamation marks!? Great Scott!!! Is there a shortage of punctuation in the future!?

SubArcticTundra,
@SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml avatar

All known deposits were depleted

KairuByte,
@KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

You could have saved two, all you had to do was use the interrobang. You’re a monster.

fsr1967,

Kernighan, what was I thinking?

jaybone,

1.21GB!!!

max,

;-;

lung,
@lung@lemmy.world avatar

ifn’t(!valid) halp?

Deconceptualist,

I believe that resolves the same as

ain’t!(!untrue)

RagingHungryPanda,

ain’t (nothin)

xia,

“Help’s with readability”? You know what else helps? Not using contractions and introducing an unbalanced single quote.

bdonvr,

If they’d’nt’ve done that, it’d’ve been better. Agreed.

fsr1967,

TIHI

Cwilliams,

they’d’nt’ve

Aside: rip Tom Scott

survivalmachine,

This feels racist against Appalachia. We naturally speak with contractions and are commonly referred to as “unbalanced”.

frezik,

Runs havoc on parsing, too. It’s bad for both humans and robots. I say we ship it.

bappity, (edited )
@bappity@lemmy.world avatar

cap () {

}
nocap () {

}

runner_g, (edited )

nocap(frfr){

}

taanegl,

I’m just hoping this paves the way to code with Southern dialect


<span style="color:#323232;">iffun is == true
</span><span style="color:#323232;">iffun ain't == false
</span>
timetravel,

May I introduce you to the joys of and creating your own horrible sub language

frezik, (edited )

That reminds me of an old paper about how to create a compilable C program out of old game ROMs. Decompile to assembly. Implement a bunch of #define statements that implement all the ASM statements. Now compile it to a native binary on whatever platform.

Won’t likely be faster or more accurate than regular emulation methods, but it’s a neat idea considering that the source code on all this stuff was lost a long time ago.

luciole,
@luciole@beehaw.org avatar

I shan’t!

0x0,

I propose a new, more threatening kind of control flow.


<span style="color:#323232;">do {
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  /* something */
</span><span style="color:#323232;">} or else {
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  /* you don't want to find out */
</span><span style="color:#323232;">}
</span>
Strawberry,

this is just a menacing try/catch!

gex,

Some C++ style guides suggest the following naming convention for functions that crash on any error


<span style="color:#323232;">OpenFileOrDie()
</span>
yum13241,

Now what about GZDoom’s GoAwayAndDie();?

xmunk,

PHP has the always wonderful (and perfectly functional) syntax of

logUserIn() or die();

msage,

Or Perl

evatronic,

Where do you think PHP stole it from?

msage,

Bash?

frezik, (edited )

Perl also has unless() for the very purpose in OP, which is a more sensible choice.

Oh, and if you need to reinforce your belief that Perl is a mess, the single-quote character can be used as a package separator instead of “::”. This was set in the 90s when nobody was quite sure of the right syntax for package separators, so it borrowed “::” from C++ and the single quote from Ada (I think).

That means the ifn’t() in OP can be interpreted as calling the t() function on the ifn package.

The “::” separator is vastly preferred, though. Single quotes run havoc on syntax highlighting text editors (since they can also be used for strings). About the only time I’ve seen it used is a joke module, Acme::don’t.

Kissaki,

Personally, I like to call catched exception variables up, so for a rethrow I can throw up;.

Vorthas,
@Vorthas@programming.dev avatar

One of the modules in a project I’m working on is called VulkanOrDie which always makes me crack up when I see it in the compilation messages.

OpenStars,
@OpenStars@startrek.website avatar

It’s funnier when you try to SysCallAndDie() :-P

(that’s a real thing in perl btw - I guess that function didn’t get the memo)

OpenStars,
@OpenStars@startrek.website avatar

You just made me a offer I can’t refuse. I go now to sleep with the fishes…

Mesa,
@Mesa@programming.dev avatar

The better try-catch. More intuitive if you ask me.

moody,

It_would_be_a_shame_if(condition)

rothaine, 

<span style="color:#323232;">do {
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  /* something */
</span><span style="color:#323232;">} do hast {
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  /* something */
</span><span style="color:#323232;">}
</span>
0x0, 

<span style="color:#323232;">do {
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  /* something */
</span><span style="color:#323232;">} do hast {
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  /* something */
</span><span style="color:#323232;">} do hast mich {
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  /* something */
</span><span style="color:#323232;">}
</span>
jadelord,

It exists, kind of. Python has this construct


<span style="color:#323232;">for item in iterable:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    ...
</span><span style="color:#323232;">else:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">     ...
</span>

which always puzzles me, since it depends on a break statement execution. I always have to look it up when the else block is executed.

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