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BeatTakeshi, in I have a software joke, but I’m not ready to release it yet
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I have a torrenting joke, but it’s only 99.1% complete

threelonmusketeers, in Cool S

The double helix depicted in the comic twists the wrong way (inverted chirality).

Randall, I’m disappointed in you :)

UnrepententProcrastinator, in I have a software joke, but I’m not ready to release it yet

I have a web journalism joke but it’s behind a paywall

UnrepententProcrastinator, in I have a software joke, but I’m not ready to release it yet

I have a customer support joke, please hold…

Squorlple, in Speediest little fella.
@Squorlple@lemmy.world avatar

Who is the dude on the right?

fossilesque,
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A scientist at CERN.

Squorlple,
@Squorlple@lemmy.world avatar

Ah, I get the joke now. Classic

EyIchFragDochNur, (edited ) in It's just sequential.
@EyIchFragDochNur@feddit.de avatar

Maybe google Rassenlehre…

Squirrelsdrivemenuts,

I don’t think this meme has anything to do with that right? It’s just a joke because we used to call all DNA that does not actively code for proteins and lies outside of genes Junk DNA.

EyIchFragDochNur, (edited )
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Heh i know that those terms are a thing but the meme is saying that some person’s genome is junk/garbage/rubbish. That is just condescending with the bad taste of eugenics.

Squirrelsdrivemenuts,

Then perhaps you can google hanlon’s razor

EyIchFragDochNur,
@EyIchFragDochNur@feddit.de avatar

Lol you I was just going against stupidity. Before it turns into malice

fossilesque, (edited )
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EyIchFragDochNur,
@EyIchFragDochNur@feddit.de avatar

Yea and the rest of the meme makes it eugenic racist bullshit

lugal,

How is it about race?

ForgetPrimacy, (edited ) in You people are everywhere I stg
alcoholicorn, (edited )

TIL: At least one Furry was prosecuted by the HUAC for fear of being part of a communist plot.

ForgetPrimacy,

TLDR: triangles are forbidden

SzethFriendOfNimi, in Speediest little fella.
@SzethFriendOfNimi@lemmy.world avatar

Without mass how could you do anything else?

satans_crackpipe,

Without mass you have to occupy parts of time and possibly gravity.

TheOctonaut,

39 years old… Can confirm that time is perceptibly accelerating

fossilesque,
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Wave!

SzethFriendOfNimi,
@SzethFriendOfNimi@lemmy.world avatar

I see you there

Sanctus, in You people are everywhere I stg
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Furries are the shadow backbone of society.

fossilesque,
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Literally though.

comrade19, in 95% sure this is accurate

But instagram conspiracy theorists will conclusively say ‘WATCH THIS: floride is POISON. (follow link in bio)’ Based on no study ever

Tb0n3, in Speediest little fella.

Does a photon actually accelerate? Sure seems like it always goes at light speed through whatever medium from its creation.

trash80,

They change direction and speed, right?

ziggurism,
@ziggurism@lemmy.world avatar

The fact that light cannot change speed is one of the core axioms of relativity

trash80,

Light doesn’t travel the same speed in water or glass as in a vacuum.

In a medium, light usually does not propagate at a speed equal to c; further, different types of light wave will travel at different speeds. The speed at which the individual crests and troughs of a plane wave (a wave filling the whole space, with only one frequency) propagate is called the phase velocity vp. A physical signal with a finite extent (a pulse of light) travels at a different speed. The overall envelope of the pulse travels at the group velocity vg, and its earliest part travels at the front velocity vf.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_light#In_a_medium

Neato,
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That's light as an aggregate wave. Photons, actual light, always travel at c. What's happening in a medium is the rapid absorption and readmission of photons. The probability of admission is based on structure of material causing things like lens or mirrors to work.

You can think of it as the photons having to jump between platforms before the can continue running at c.

trash80,

Now I’m not sure how reflective telescopes work.

TonyTonyChopper,
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Neato,
@Neato@kbin.social avatar

Interference in matters structure causes classical wave like behavior.

trash80,

I find so much of physics to be very intuitive and then you have light.

Entropius,
@Entropius@lemmy.world avatar

What’s happening in a medium is the rapid absorption and readmission of photons. […]

You can think of it as the photons having to jump between platforms before the can continue running at c.

That’s an intuitive model, but unfortunately it doesn’t have the advantage of actually being correct. Photons are not being absorbed and reemitted. See here for why: lemmy.world/comment/5444224

Neato,
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That is wrong. Stochastic yes. Photons emission is probabilistic. Destructive interference causes emission to overwhelming follow classical wave theory. Here's a better explanation with a neat graphic.

https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/466/what-is-the-mechanism-behind-the-slowdown-of-light-photons-in-a-transparent-medi

Entropius,
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It sounds like you’re conflating different concepts. A stochastic process like absorption/reemission would blur the light, so that’s not it. And the linked explanation is basically correct (in classical physics at least), but it doesn’t corroborate what you originally claimed as that’s not necessarily requiring absorbing anything. Photons can jiggle the charged particles in glass and get them to make new phase shifted light despite not being absorbed.

youtu.be/YW8KuMtVpug

youtu.be/CiHN0ZWE5bk

there1snospoon, (edited )

But doesn’t relativity explicitly state that c is the speed of light in a vacuum, and travelling through other mediums explicitly changes and is explained by relativity?

I am 100% a layman and do not know the answer.

trash80,

I don’t know. I thought I used to know.

wildginger,

This is how I feel every time I touch any non-basal physics topic.

I swear this made sense once upon a time…

sushibowl,

Not really no. Special relativity explains the relationship between space and time. General relativity expands on this to account for gravitation.

One of the postulates (i.e. assumptions) of relativity is that the speed of light in vacuum is the same for all observers. But the theory doesn’t actually require any particular value for c, it only needs it to be constant. And it doesn’t explain the behavior of light in a medium at all.

In fact, relativity doesn’t explain the mechanism by which light interacts at all, that is the domain of Quantum Electro Dynamics.

ziggurism,
@ziggurism@lemmy.world avatar

the speed of light expressed in units of distance per time, is a dimensionful quantity so it probably doesn’t mean anything to say some theory does or does not predict a value for it. The value is entirely determined by how big you choose your yardsticks and sundials to be, which is arbitrary convention.

It is only meaningful to talk about theoretical predictions of the values of constants if they are dimensionless, like the fine structure constant.

However relativity does suggest as a natural point of view that space and time are just orthogonal directions in a unified spacetime. In this point of view, relativity gives you the option of measuring your timelike and spacelike coordinates with the same yardstick (which you may still choose arbitrarily). And then relativity does predict its value. It’s 1. No units.

there1snospoon,

Wow that is so interesting. So am I understanding that relativity explains space, time and gravity’s interactions with one another, while quantum science explains interactions with much smaller objects like matter?

marcos,

No, they don’t. They can get absorbed and re-emitted, and the space they are moving though can compress sideways. But they can’t make curves at all.

trash80,

Do lenses absorb and re-emit light?

Neato, (edited )
@Neato@kbin.social avatar

Yes.

Don't think about individual photons. Think about billions of them with destructive and constructive interference. The probabilities of all the sitting l additive waves of light.

marcos,

That’s basically all that refraction is. A dead giveaway is that light doesn’t move at the speed of light in them.

Vilian,

well, if it get reflected and change direction it going to be at light speed, so it can be interpreted (probably incorrectly lol) that it “accelerated instantly to the other direction after the reflection”?

kogasa, (edited )
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This is an interesting question. Instant acceleration is mathematically implausible, but I don’t know if there’s a better physical interpretation for what happens to a bouncing photon. I’m guessing this is one of those “less particle, more wave” situations where the instantaneous velocity of the photon is undefined.

According to some random internet sources, reflection is the not-quite-instantaneous process of the photon being absorbed and then emitted by the electrons in the mirror.

Entropius,
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As a rule, it’s probably best to avoid “random” internet sources on matters of how light works because there’s so much confidently parroted misinformation out there. For example, this is completely wrong: youtu.be/FAivtXJOsiI See here for correct answers to that issue: youtu.be/CiHN0ZWE5bk

For how mirrors work see this: scientificamerican.com/…/what-is-the-physical-pro…youtu.be/rYLzxcU6ROM

AlwaysNowNeverNotMe,
@AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social avatar

This is acceleration with no mass and no resistance to medium.

Tb0n3,
Neato,
@Neato@kbin.social avatar

Photons are born and die at c. They experience no time and have no frame of reference.

hansl,

The loneliest of experience.

Aurenkin,

The speed of light is different depending on the medium though isn’t it? So to change speed I would have thought some acceleration would have to be involved.

I have no idea what I’m talking about though.

Neato,
@Neato@kbin.social avatar

It's not. The wave front moves slower. Because when light moves through matter it's getting absorbed and reradiated.

Aurenkin,

That’s neato, thanks for the science fact

einfach_orangensaft, in Can't catch me, coppers!!

time to buy such equipment

flambonkscious,

It’s expensive AF, I’m sure. The food is a far easier avenue (less fun, but far smarter)

CJOtheReal,

Depends on how much you get…

XTornado,

It pays by itself. /s

fossilesque, in 95% sure this is accurate
@fossilesque@mander.xyz avatar

Math checks out.

Zink,

Probably.

MxM111, (edited ) in 95% sure this is accurate
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85% of statistics is made up 35% of the times.

harry315, in 95% sure this is accurate

At least if we’re wrong, we know that we live in the remaining 5 % of parallel universes

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